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Similar to all the most-extraverted-to-most-introverted and @ForsakenMe's thread about the T/F dimension, this is about the J/P dimension.

Most judgemental to most perceptive:

ESTJ
ENTJ
ESFJ
ENFJ
ISTJ
INTJ
ISFJ
INFJ
INTP
ISTP
INFP
ISFP
ENTP
ESTP
ENFP
ESFP
 
What does you mean by judgemental?
What does you mean by perceptive?

Because I don't see how those terms have anything to do with types at all.
I think the term "judgmental" is just being used by the OP as someone who is a "judger" and perceptive as someone who is a "perceiver" It's a bit misleading because that's not what J/P means in terms of MBTI but I think they just mean ESTJs have the strongest J traits of the types and ESFPs have the strongest P trait.
 
I think the term "judgmental" is just being used by the OP as someone who is a "judger" and perceptive as someone who is a "perceiver" It's a bit misleading because that's not what J/P means in terms of MBTI but I think they just mean ESTJs have the strongest J traits of the types and ESFPs have the strongest P trait.
Thanks, but what does it mean to be a "judger" or "perceiver"? Why would someone with dominant Te be more a "judger" than someone with dominant Fe or Ti?
 
I'm having a hard time making sense of this thread, the P-J dimension is very different than I-E, I think you are associating ESTJ as the type with the most stereotypical J traits and vice versa for ESFP. The problem with some of this is both Pi and Je often lead to J traits, the same with Ji and Pe for P, so I don't think a EJ type is more J than a IJ type.

In fact IPs can have more stereotypical P traits(mainly passiveness and indecisiveness) than EPs, it's just that the P traits seem to be split between EPs(implusive, reactive, spontaneous) and IPs(go with the flow, passive). The same thing with Js, IJs(preparedness, steady) and EJs(proactive, structured).

I mean Ji as a functional orientation has got to be the most live and let live because Ji often respects individuality and everyone's right to freedom of thought and action, it's usually when it's forced into conflicting situations that it becomes stubborn. ESFPs as the least judgemental, some of the most judgemental people I've ever meet were Se doms, usually it might be based on immediate impressions.
 
I would say, as an infj, that we are not so judgmental. We often get mistyped as infps due to our lack of j, even though our cognitive functions shows otherwise. I'm structured and organized in one way, but I hate schedules and having things planned, because I always feel like I have to stick to them and follow them trough. I would say that most infjs are a mix of both j and p, because we have a lot of traits from both sides. :)
 
ISTJ
ESTJ
INTJ
ENTJ
ISFJ
ESFJ
INFJ
ENFJ

Notice I put the introverted version of each type above the extrovert, usually from my observation the introverted judgers are more particular then the extroverted counter parts.

ISTP
ESTP
INTP
ENTP
ENFP
INFP
ISFP
ESFP
 
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