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Bliss Stream's Descriptions for the 9w1 Stackings

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so/sx 9w1

They want to contribute something new and passionate to society, but feel like too much of a social nonentity to do it. They may view themselves as 4ish due to issues around uniqueness, but these issues only arise because of how aware they are that others possess a sense of self, which only reinforces the 9's sense of nothingness....Since they know they lack a strong self, they lack hope about contributing something original. They resolve the quagmire either by spinning their wheels with fruitless and endless self-examination hoping to discover something deep about themselves or by conforming to various personalities and completely checking out. They are dispassionate in general but can seem more passionate, sad, or lively because they comply to a Oneish social instinct in the back of their head telling them how they should react and what's appropriate. They know underneath how internally unaffected they are. They are taken back by the possibilities of things they could imagine happening without stirring a real reaction in them and find it disturbing to think about how they could merge into anything... They can seem 7-like in their draw to books, people, beliefs, and adventures, but they are drawn to these outlets in hopes of receiving a sense of perspective and self. They have a nose for unconscious structures and may create a new language around patterns, themes, or archetypes in myths, traditions, history, and groups. They are easy to mistype because they can seem to run fully on the 'software" or agendas of different types. They may search for approval and validation like a 3, but reject the approval once they get it as if wondering why they would be worthy of admiration or attention in the first place. It's the 'agenda' 'software' itself they are addicted to, not the result.

so/sp 9w1

They deeply care about their community's welfare and get wedded to ideals and dreams in their imagination. They seek out responsible positions in society and infuse the collective unconscious with an antidote against cynicism. They spend their lives fighting off cynicism for the good of the whole. More than anything, they are masters at bridging groups together for the sake of compromise. Every advancement they make is reframed in their stream of conscious as 'we made' "they did" 'we did.' They view the collective as having a responsibility to put an end to poverty and other social ills and get testy when harmony is disrupted by politics and special interests....They hold the 'we" "them" "whole" to high expectations, but they don't feel like enough of an entity to impact the greater good. They look for transformational leaders to merge with...They may try too hard to hint at the similarity between them and whoever they are merged with, sometimes appearing wooden in their drawnout monotone rambling. They identify with compromise and peace to an extent they lack a spine for conflict and seem overtly soft, preferring to leave confrontational action for others...They'll take it on the chin even when the most pragmatic course is to hit back...But they are shrewd at using their social capital to mobilize others into doing what they lack the motivation to do themselves. They never feel the whole so fully as when people with opposing views compromise... as they believe that everyone is willing to sacrifice for the sake of harmony. A good compromise helps solve their 'nothingness' issue and fills them with an appreciation for existence... The precision of their attunement to boundaries in the social sphere is something like feeling the ripples of "a butterfly flapping its wings."

sp/so 9w1

They are the most persona non gratta 9w1s.... They have a warm, gentle and diplomatic feel about them as if nobody is home. Their presence is wimpy and resigned, but occasionally they might erupt in a burst of gut truth like somebody sliding head first into home plate. They sometimes take testy, tough, and immoveable positions with relatives.... But inevitably resign themselves to putting their heads in the sand. They can have an unassuming ambition and fall into depression or bouts of despair not having yet made a mark...They are reliable reporters of what's going on socially and are more stuck to people in their environment than they let on. Unlike sp/sx 9w1, this stack sticks to their routines much longer and more consistently in the details of their activity day in and day out, right down to the conversations they have with people and the inflections and tones they use in their voice. They may seem like 5w6 in their scientific orientation. But they are unshakeable idealists when it comes to their sense of duty and social responsibility. They will do what's necessary without fanfare but can seem cool and aloof as if it's all process. They contain a social motor of willpower that lacks self-awareness. This same aloofness can show up as an indifference towards the needs of family members when they are under stress. They see how everything subjective is ultimately swallowed up into nothing, giving them a long, long view of events. They know when they can move the "templates" of reality forward through their unconscious sense for which way the winds are blowing. But in doing so, they still retain the detachment to narrate events as if they weren't the ones moving them.

sp/sx 9w1

This typewingstack most clearly embodies Jung's Introverted Sensation style. They are the eyes and fingers of the universe examining itself. They are most aware of how everyone is connected indirectly through the swamps of psychic muck. They have a sense of adventure and view the world as a playground where they can move beyond the biases of their own ego by learning about the world around them. They learn about themselves by learning about others and they want to grasp every interesting person they encounter at the level of the unconscious....engagement isn't exactly necessary but rather they have an extrasensory decoder for the subconscious... They aren't burdened by social obligations, so their inner aesthetic is a daily source of nourishment. Their internal repose slows things down so they can get a better look and feel for the world around them....they see the textures that others miss and can articulate the texture in a way that taps into the electrical charge of reality. Their convictions and ideals are more personal than sp/so, but also unshakeable. They cobble together their own basic truths without the drag of social responsibility and embrace philosophies as flexible as necessary to accommodate their personal epiphanies...they believe that words and language are imperfect and childish tools to communicate these truths and epiphanies. They feel truth can only be hinted at through aesthetics such as art or film or music. They are drawn to and fascinated by the language of the unspoken and believe this is where all the intentions of life spring.... They view words as primitive and utilitarian, and attune themselves to the subconscious realm (under the spoken word) where it is impossible for people to hide their inner being....They can resemble 5w4s in their grasp for subtlety, but they are working at a more elemental level where nothing is purely true, but nothing is purely not true. All expression is a distortion of the truth that relates to the origin of the cosmos. Every act pertains to "god" "creation" the "singularity." Even people's masks and false propositions are distortions of this truth. They are more interested in the elemental forces that move events rather than the event itself. They have access to archetypes in the unconscious where mythological battles can be hashed out while keeping the 9 disconnected from their instinct. They have the freedom to play around with absurdity and imagine extreme 'violence' and destruction against the elements they have merged with in their imagination. They view life as a series of inevitabilities...They take a passive role in relationships as if they were fully merged with the universe's agenda to let all things happen as they must.

sx/so 9w1

They look for people who can spark their passion and help improve them as a person... But once they begin to merge with somebody they are passionate about, they become more hesitant about showing their passion...This may look like disinterest, but it reflects the sensitivity they have to separation. They want to avoid creating memories that could come back to haunt them....so they may often break eye contact or go aloof as a reflex to intense or romantic moments... The more they do this kind of thing, the stronger they feel for the person. This type falls in love easily, but has difficulty falling out of love and prefers not to let themselves fall out of love. They stay in love with the world and people by living inside of their fantasy world where they can maintain a relationship long after it ends....On occasion, reminders may be powerful enough to break through their defenses and remind them of what once was. The longer they put off dealing with their negative feelings, the more they will continue to reexperience breakup years after the fact....one dream can force them into a state of melancholy for days on end....They may seek escape through other things like music...They usually have a great ear for music and can learn instruments rather easily, and even compose their own stuff. Their compositions are usually scattered across a range of feeling from melancholy to absurd. If they can't find passion through a relationship, they may look alternatively through a cause. They believe in doing the 'right thing' and will protest the "wrong thing." They don't just want connections with people, but a sense of solidarity with those who care deeply about the same issues like they do. They have a soft spot for anything living and defenseless, and can even seem "extreme" or "kooky" in their defense of these things. In spite of it, they retain a shy, sweet, and gentle exterior with a touch of autism.

sx/sp 9w1

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with their own willpower later on in life. They do very well in fields that involve listening and connection so long as they can get their judgmental 1 wing under control. They have less drive for comfort and more drive for intense experiences. These 9s can sit around and have long conversations with people they hardly know in the strangest places and lose themselves in ripples only the 9 is aware of. Their fractured identities can also manifest in their living environment....i.e. some parts could be on the warm and bright side while other parts are plain and unattended to. More than other 9w1s, this 9w1 can virtually run on a fast and scattered autopilot for long periods of time with virtually no productive activity. Depression and self-destruction is not uncommon. They are most attuned to the sense that underneath all the things they know they have to do and attain, there is an essential nothingness at the core of existence, even of their own 'identity', and this only further locks them into their narcolepsy. Afterall, becoming awake would bring them to terms with this nothingness and that's not something they want to confront. They don't usually have a social network to fall back on. They idealize connections to such an extent that finding a friend is like searching for a needle in a haystack.... They can wind up feeling completely numb, lost, lonely, and longing for a blissful sense of completion that can only come from a relationship. Perhaps this is why no 9w1 is more pushy and assertive when it comes to merging. When they do, it's as if they are totally blind to any boundary between themselves and the other. As they get older, they can grow more guarded and less excited/open to the flow of experience.


 
#3 ·
If you don't mind my asking where was this from or would it be who? I did a search but found nothing and this thread was the first link in the results.
 
#6 ·
:(( 9w1 So/sx....this is frightening because it's true and I'm getting nowhere fast. Ihave strong convictions and desire to find my self and do something in this life...:S but I can't say no and cave in to other people's requests....it feels like I'm all over the place and constantly angry because of this, but numb out and repress my anger...because I don't want conflict...this in turn fuels my internal conflict and avoidance...which leads to eventual external conflict with others due to disappointment....T__T
 
#9 ·
lol i took this instinctual variant/enneagram test first try i scored 4w5 as usual, then 6w7 , then third try 9w1 XD....I don't relate to 3, 5, 7, 8, 2 and slightly higher to type 1.

6w7 not paranoid and I don't anticipate or prepare nor do I have problems with authority, don't rebel and I don't care :\

9w1 don't get what the harmonious inner world means...I feel insanely deeply about stuff, I like the negative, the dark, intense positive or negative emotions, I dwell on all these feelings a lot, I'm rarely numb or passive and don't ignore negative things.

4w5 I'm not that artistic, I dabble here and there in music, writing and drawing, I'm not full of myself nor do I constantly feel superior, in fact I feel inferior most of the time.

^^; I'm all of these types and none of these types....So/Sx <---of this I'm sure. I'm also highly Idealistic and want to do the right thing , but don't have type 1's inner critical voice. I'm more accepting of myself and idealism+moral values is an NF thing.
 
#62 ·
Because sp/sx integrates first to sx/soc. (Then soc/sp; then to sp/sx and beyond--at the highest level everything is available). Since it's a flow, there is no beginning and end where you stop being one stack and suddenly become the other. Although it seems you've changed your typing to 4w5, but as a 9 that would be the answer. Bear in mind that sx-first is the Fourish instinctual variant. And very Fourish it is indeed.
 
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Ok I'm back and I'm staying. I can relate to 9w1 so/sx, sx/so and sx/sp a lot! Type 9 just makes more sense and I got to stop myself from over analyzing and trying to be something I'm not.

....kind of depressing to realize...but it is time to face my own nature and to put a stop to this.

I like intensity..if things are not intense my attention tends to drift off. I'm also impulsive and reactive while being self controlled enough to vent the pressure properly. What does that sound like? so, sx or sp?

EDIT: I just read 9w1 Sx/Sp and when it mentioned narcolepsy like behaviour (I don't have narcolepsy), numbing out at inappropriate moments (when I find that my environment does not stimulate me enough) and the whole description in general....I laughed so hard :p because it was just me in a nutshell. Sx/Sp it is.
 
#14 ·
so/sx 9w1

sp/sx 9w1

They are the eyes and fingers of the universe examining itself. They are most aware of how everyone is connected indirectly through the swamps of psychic muck. They have a sense of adventure and view the world as a playground where they can move beyond the biases of their own ego by learning about the world around them... They are drawn to and fascinated by the language of the unspoken and believe this is where all the intentions of life spring.... They view words as primitive and utilitarian, and attune themselves to the subconscious realm (under the spoken word) where it is impossible for people to hide their inner being. They take a passive role in relationships as if they were fully merged with the universe's agenda to let all things happen as they must.

I test INFP (So, no Si as the beginning of this suggested) but I couldn't relate more to a description. I'm having some trouble, though, trying to understand how all of these things fit together... is there a connection between the obsession with subtlety and the passivity? Is it just the wanting to let everything be?
 
#16 ·
I don't really relate to the sp/sx stacking description, but I do relate to the sp/sx stacking for 4 -- further convincing me I'm a core 4 with 9 secondary as a strong fix.
 
#18 ·
sx/sp 9w1

This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it. They get more in touch with their own willpower later on in life. They do very well in fields that involve listening and connection so long as they can get their judgmental 1 wing under control. They have less drive for comfort and more drive for intense experiences. These 9s can sit around and have long conversations with people they hardly know in the strangest places and lose themselves in ripples only the 9 is aware of. Their fractured identities can also manifest in their living environment....i.e. some parts could be on the warm and bright side while other parts are plain and unattended to. More than other 9w1s, this 9w1 can virtually run on a fast and scattered autopilot for long periods of time with virtually no productive activity. Depression and self-destruction is not uncommon. They are most attuned to the sense that underneath all the things they know they have to do and attain, there is an essential nothingness at the core of existence, even of their own 'identity', and this only further locks them into their narcolepsy. Afterall, becoming awake would bring them to terms with this nothingness and that's not something they want to confront. They don't usually have a social network to fall back on. They idealize connections to such an extent that finding a friend is like searching for a needle in a haystack.... They can wind up feeling completely numb, lost, lonely, and longing for a blissful sense of completion that can only come from a relationship. Perhaps this is why no 9w1 is more pushy and assertive when it comes to merging. When they do, it's as if they are totally blind to any boundary between themselves and the other. As they get older, they can grow more guarded and less excited/open to the flow of experience.

GAHHHH!!! This is SO ME! Part of me is screaming yes, and part of me feels like a little gremlin going "brightlight! brightlight!" and scuttling into the dark...
 
#21 ·
The so/sx description makes me feel all robotic.. only ever going through the motions. Gah.


I'm pretty sure that there is supposed to be an order, but it's definitely supposed to be more clear cut for some than others. Some people may be overly dependent or lacking on one stacking, and some people may be more balanced.

Also, remember that descriptions are just descriptions. It gives a good idea of where to start. :)
 
#28 ·
I also fall under 9w1 sp/sx.. and I too had the same bewilderment upon hearing those scientific words "Introverted Sensation".. it's confusing to say the least. What isn't so confusing are the descriptions further down:

They are the eyes and fingers of the universe examining itself.
view the world as a playground where they can move beyond the biases of their own ego by learning about the world around them.
engagement isn't exactly necessary but rather they have an extrasensory decoder for the subconscious...
They aren't burdened by social obligations, so their inner aesthetic is a daily source of nourishment. Their internal repose slows things down so they can get a better look and feel for the world around them....they see the textures that others miss and can articulate the texture in a way that taps into the electrical charge of reality.
they believe that words and language are imperfect and childish tools to communicate these truths and epiphanies. They feel truth can only be hinted at through aesthetics such as art or film or music. They are drawn to and fascinated by the language of the unspoken and believe this is where all the intentions of life spring.... attune themselves to the subconscious realm (under the spoken word) where it is impossible for people to hide their inner being....
They are more interested in the elemental forces that move events rather than the event itself.
I'm curious, if you were out walking in a park, surrounded by all the incredible beauty ~ do you see, i mean feel things differently than others? Do you pick up on things beyond "things"? Are you motivated, or rather inspired by unity, rather than duality? Perhaps that's what describes my mood best, finding unity within the illusory world of duality.
 
#25 ·
Tests don't always yield an accurate type. If the particular test you took gave you a list of the types from the type you scored highest on to lowest, I'd use that as a rubric - start by reading various pieces on type 9, and then the next few types in the list and so on. Acquaint yourself with each type and it will become easier to tell which ones you relate to and which you don't... narrowing down the list. You can simply google ennagram types or look around on the forums here for links. Point being that studying each type is the best way to determine the right type, don't take a test's word for it.

You might also try posting a thread in this forum. If you answer some questionnaires, some of the people on the forum might be able to help you with determining your correct type.


...Since everyone has a sexual, social and self-preserving instinct, we all have each "instinctual variant" in our type, It's the order that matters. So yes, it's normal for everyone to have all three. When a person says "I'm sp", what they really mean is that sp is the first in their stacking of the three, not that they are only sp and not sx or so at all.

Most "stacking" descriptions involve the first two variants - see here for more info. So for you, sp is first, then sx - thus your type is most likely sp/sx (though again, taking a test's word for it isn't as good as deciding for yourself after some study). I hope that makes sense/is helpful. Good luck!

PS - Nice av. I myself enjoy Joy Division.
 
#26 ·
I like this description of sx/sp better. This one seems to really describe someone who has not yet come to understand their battles in life. It's nice to think of sx/sps as the lonely cowboys of the enneagram. :)
Type Stackings - the enneagram ...info from the underground

The page for 9 specific stackings also has some nice advice. I found the tips for sp/sx 9s extremely helpful to me personally, but as with all descriptions of type, things are spotty and what works for one... you know. :p
 
#27 ·
sx/sp 9w1
This typewingstack embodies the passion of sloth very well. They desire personal development and enlightenment. However, their sloth is always one step ahead of them. They know what they gotta do, but can't summon the motivation to do it.
As the 9w1 sx/sp description claims, sloth, of all things, can be my biggest hurdle. I am indeed my own worst enemy. This alluring sloth seems to the most gripping when I’ve had a pause or break in momentum. For example, after a holiday break or 3-day weekend it seems to take enormous energy and willpower to take those first steps (difficult or not) toward jumping back into the ratrace, or the To-Do list, or the paperwork... With momentum, I can autopilot my way through with a smile on my face. Without it, the same tasks are grueling.


I also find it rather inconvenient that when my motivation does decide to kick in, it urges me toward impractical things such as sporadic cross-country relocations and spiky haircuts and the hunt for the perfect, perfect birthday gift. If only I cared about functional things like laundry, income, and bearing children...
 
#30 ·
After about 6 months of... 'investigation' I have settled with sx/sp...
I was sure at first I was sp/so. Then so/sx... then went back to sp/so. For some reason I don't feel like a sexual type- but I guess I just was not able to comprehend what it really means, same with social.
I analyzed myself and my actions and my past. I do try and fit in with groups in the off chance that I am in a group setting, but that's natural for a 9. I have never really tried to nourish my connections with people, either I am indifferent to their interests or I think I'll be a burden.
Anyway, I read this article: the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/133-Instinctual-Stackings

Really helped me understand better. Sx/sp is the perfect description that sums up everything and ties up all of those loose ends. Trying to be independent to an impossible extent, never asking for help and being indifferent and distant from my friends and family, often giving them the impression that I don't want anything to do with them... Bleh.
Also the whole thing about self preservation needs being neglected sometimes when there is adventure in the air, lol.

The description of SO in the blind spot is highly accurate.
And so is the whole staccato approach described in this thread haha. I don't mean to, I just tend to disconnect.
 
#33 ·
I find it just too ironic that as a 9 I identify with ALL the stacking descriptions...what a surprise! :D

Still dreadfully wandering amiss regarding my stacking. A lot of it has to do with the different perceptions posted here (which are posted somewhere else on this forum and you may have read)

The Enneagram Institute Discussion Board - sp, sx, so, ??

I'm either sx/sp or sp/sx but I can't make the call. If anything, I'm SOC last...
I've actually envied people I've seen in groups, like I secretly wanted that, but felt so lost and disconnected. I usually only have a few friends, who are strong connections.

Sometimes I think it might be easier to ask where does your resignation show up most in life? From what cause?

When I'm 'on the hunt' so to speak, looking for the juice seeking intensity and attraction... and I find I can't get what I want, I'm instantly resigned. Biggest 'sigh' ever. Woe is me, hopelessness. The hard part is the reality: I'm very selective in choosing people I want to date... I have types that incredibly turn me on, and there are a lot of people who leave no effect, and there are those who incredibly repulse me. And if all I'm focusing on is a select few, for a 9 that might be difficult being an SX-first... sometimes getting what you really want just remains in your head because reality doesn't match up.

So my backup plan is usually the SP... seeking the partner in crime, the SO to share my life with. I can 'settle for less' so to speak, but there becomes the issue: the wandering eye, knowing that what I really want is still out there, and the possibility for triangulation... I wouldn't doubt open-relationships seem most feasible for SX first... less you actually get what you want and stick with it (imagine that for a 9!)
 
#35 ·
I'd like to see a description of every enneagram plus wing with the stackings.
 
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