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If you haven't seen this show, you need to. It's a depressing, satirical comedy on netflix. Only 12 episodes have been released, but the characters have undergone some serious development already. Here are my thoughts on the types of the main characters, feel free to contribute.

Bojack: INTJ
Todd: INFJ
Carolyn: ENTJ (She's just like me)
Diane: INFP
Mr. Peanutbutter: ESFP
Penguin (I forget his name): ISTJ
Herb Kazzaz: INTJ
 
it's actually the best show since spongebob......

Bojack: a dissatisfied narcissistic ENTP. who seems to be an introvert because hes dealing with his own ego and the fact hes a shitty friend.
Todd: classic INFJ.
Carolyn: ENTJ
Diane: either INFP or INTP I cant tell.
Mr. Peanutbutter: ESFP.
and the others I don't care.
 
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it's actually the best show since spongebob......

Bojack: a dissatisfied narcissistic ENTP. who seems to be an introvert because hes dealing with his own ego and the fact hes a shitty friend.
Todd: classic INFJ.
Carolyn: ENTJ
Diane: either INFP or INTP I cant tell.
Mr. Peanutbutter: ESFP.
and the others I don't care.
I agree, it's genius.

My only disagreement is with Bojack, because he spends most of his free time alone zonked out on the couch reliving the past. He seems like an introvert. INTP is possible.

As Mr. Peanutbutter (one word) said, "You're such a Zoe."
 
he constantly needs people around him so he dosent get lonely................that's why todds always at his place. bojack is naturally a Zelda but his ego is killing all the Zelda he has so he comes off as a zoey but deep down hes a nice guy and im sure as the show progresses he'll lean back towards his inner zelda
 
Apparently, I can't edit that post. One switcharoo and that's for Mr. Peanutbutter. I think that he's an ESFJ. He has way too much Fe to be an ESFP. I think that what I assumed to be Se is more of an unhealthy usage of Ne. ESFJ in a Fe-Ne loop.
ESFPs actually have a very strong Fe, they just don't prefer to use it. It's like INTJs and Ti, using it too much makes us feel unhealthy.
 
Bojack - INTP (He's almost like Brian Griffin)
Todd - ENFP
Princess Carolyn - ESTP
Mr. Peanut Butter - ESFP
Diane - INTJ
Wanda - ENFJ
You chose your own type for Carolyn while others went for ENTJ, think you might be a little biased?
 
Perhaps. Then again ENTJs and ESTPs can look similar in some regards. I also find her to be insanely relateable. Especially with getting gelato.

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I think she's an ESTJ, but she's definitely written a little slanted. Not ENTJ, definitely ESTX, in my opinion. She's quite a live in the moment kind of gal.
 
Bojack - XSTP
Todd - ISFP
Princess Carolyn - ESTJ (no universe in which she's an ENTJ)
Mr. Peanut Butter - ESFP (ESFP functions, but he does have a very J-ish vibe)
Diane - INFJ
Wanda - INXX (very tough call... I'm pretty sure she's an Introvert)

There really aren't as many iNituition users as most people on this topic believe...
 
Bumping in honor of the new season.

BoJack: xxTP (3w4) -- leaning toward ISTP as he has severe Fe issues.
Diane: INTP (1w9)
Todd: soooooo ENFP I don't even understand how anyone could say otherwise. Howling ENFP. Also social 7 (so/sp), 9 in his tritype.
Mr. Peanutbutter: I find myself undecided between ESFJ and ENFP. Definite Ne-valuer (not Se at all). He literally states he's excited by possibilities, and I agree with him. Execution isn't as important to him; he just loves ideas. I can see an argument for tertiary Ne since he mostly piggybacks off Todd and is very expressive (indicative of Fe). He also reminds me of my ESFJ friend. On the other hand, he does seem primarily tuned in to possibilities and has a streak of not giving two shits about others judging him (very loose argument for Fi). Perhaps ESFJ 7w6 sx/so.
Princess Carolyn: ENxJ. I find her really difficult to peg. ENTJ is most likely, but she has a distinctly nurturing bend to her that can easily read as Fe. Maybe ENTJ 2w1. Ni-Se because she's a real go-getter and never strays from a goal.
Wanda: INFJ. Gets hooked on an idea and brings it to fruition. Accommodating and keeps others happy. A more realistic depiction of an INFJ, imo.
Sarah Lynn: ESTP. Don't know about enneagram since I'm not convinced of 7.
 
Bumping in honor of the new season.

BoJack: xxTP (3w4) -- leaning toward ISTP as he has severe Fe issues.
Diane: INTP (1w9)
Todd: soooooo ENFP I don't even understand how anyone could say otherwise. Howling ENFP. Also social 7 (so/sp), 9 in his tritype.
Mr. Peanutbutter: I find myself undecided between ESFJ and ENFP. Definite Ne-valuer (not Se at all). He literally states he's excited by possibilities, and I agree with him. Execution isn't as important to him; he just loves ideas. I can see an argument for tertiary Ne since he mostly piggybacks off Todd and is very expressive (indicative of Fe). He also reminds me of my ESFJ friend. On the other hand, he does seem primarily tuned in to possibilities and has a streak of not giving two shits about others judging him (very loose argument for Fi). Perhaps ESFJ 7w6 sx/so.
Princess Carolyn: ENxJ. I find her really difficult to peg. ENTJ is most likely, but she has a distinctly nurturing bend to her that can easily read as Fe. Maybe ENTJ 2w1. Ni-Se because she's a real go-getter and never strays from a goal.
Wanda: INFJ. Gets hooked on an idea and brings it to fruition. Accommodating and keeps others happy. A more realistic depiction of an INFJ, imo.
Sarah Lynn: ESTP. Don't know about enneagram since I'm not convinced of 7.
Bojack strikes me as someone who has maaaajor Fi issues (Fi polr) coupled with Si seeking (his relationship with Herb and the fact he didn't call Herb for 20 years after the debacle): very ENTP 7w6 sx/sp I believe. His irresponsibility towards himself and others portrays the problems many real life Ne leads have, which is why sometimes it's uncomfortable for me to watch him. I want to hit him and hug him alternately. Probably 7-3-9 sx/sp .

Diane: I'm confused about ... either INFP/INTP 6w7 sp/so . She could very well be INFP. To be honest, I see why Bojack was so drawn to her, if she's INFP, then she's his supervisor in socionics: the person he thinks might have solutions to his problems.

Mr Peanutbutter: ESFJ 9-2-7 so/sx. His Fe is his most striking feature, he reminds me of my friend of a similar tritype. In a way, I really love how the show shows, without knowing it I suppose, that there is a hollowness in 9s. You try to find the presence of something (sometimes depth) and what you find is the glaring absence of something; it's what many people notice about 9s.

Princess Carolyn: 2w1 ENTJ, she has Fe role/ the difference between how smoothly Mr Peanutter applies his Fe whereas she sometimes resents that she HAS to apply hers in order to get the job done (ie convincing Bojack to do smarter things by being nice or what have you). Like all 2s, being helpful and effective is her goal, she just does it in a Te-way by being organized and staying ahead and focused :) . It's really nice to see a 2 ExTJ (they exist y'all) .
 
Bojack strikes me as someone who has maaaajor Fi issues (Fi polr) coupled with Si seeking (his relationship with Herb and the fact he didn't call Herb for 20 years after the debacle): very ENTP 7w6 sx/sp I believe. His irresponsibility towards himself and others portrays the problems many real life Ne leads have, which is why sometimes it's uncomfortable for me to watch him. I want to hit him and hug him alternately. Probably 7-3-9 sx/sp .
I totally agree he has zero Fi, and Fi-polr is exactly why I put xxTP instead of IxTP. I deeply relate to him so I'm not totally opposed to ENTP, but I don't see much Ne (see: Todd). Granted I don't see a ton of Se either, hence why I relegated it to auxiliary. What I do see as Ne is BoJack Horseman Show lol. And I see inferior Si with his constant returning to Sarah Lynn, Penny, and fixation on getting Herb's forgiveness. So yeah, I can buy ENTP. 7w6>3w4, though? I would need to see an argument for this. The whole show, especially BoJack's character, is stupidly 3w4. I feel like Diane is reading a 3w4 description every time she describes BoJack.

Diane: I'm confused about ... either INFP/INTP 6w7 sp/so . She could very well be INFP. To be honest, I see why Bojack was so drawn to her, if she's INFP, then she's his supervisor in socionics: the person he thinks might have solutions to his problems.
I edited my post about Diane. I kept going back and forth between INTP and INFP. I went with INTP because she sometimes reminds me of Britta from Community (whom I believe to be ENFJ) aka someone who seeks external validation to figure out if she's a good person. However, I don't think her character is written consistently (which is very human of her) -- I can think right now of an equal amount of times when she brooded on whether or not she was a good person all by herself. You could say her crashing at BoJack's/hiding from Mr. Peanutbutter qualifies as her running from Mr. Peanutbutter's expressiveness to stew by herself. Why 6 over 1, though?

Mr Peanutbutter: ESFJ 9-2-7 so/sx. His Fe is his most striking feature, he reminds me of my friend of a similar tritype. In a way, I really love how the show shows, without knowing it I suppose, that there is a hollowness in 9s. You try to find the presence of something (sometimes depth) and what you find is the glaring absence of something; it's what many people notice about 9s.
So/sx 9? Huh. I would say 7 fits that description of absence, but I know what you're talking about. Then again, I think sx 7 makes a lot of sense for him too. He is the dictionary definition of suggestible. He gets heart eyes and piggybacks on possibilities.

Princess Carolyn: 2w1 ENTJ, she has Fe role/ the difference between how smoothly Mr Peanutter applies his Fe whereas she sometimes resents that she HAS to apply hers in order to get the job done (ie convincing Bojack to do smarter things by being nice or what have you). Like all 2s, being helpful and effective is her goal, she just does it in a Te-way by being organized and staying ahead and focused :) . It's really nice to see a 2 ExTJ (they exist y'all) .
*high-five*
 
I totally agree he has zero Fi, and Fi-polr is exactly why I put xxTP instead of IxTP. I deeply relate to him so I'm not totally opposed to ENTP, but I don't see much Ne (see: Todd). Granted I don't see a ton of Se either, hence why I relegated it to auxiliary. What I do see as Ne is BoJack Horseman Show lol. And I see inferior Si with his constant returning to Sarah Lynn, Penny, and fixation on getting Herb's forgiveness. So yeah, I can buy ENTP. 7w6>3w4, though? I would need to see an argument for this. The whole show, especially BoJack's character, is stupidly 3w4. I feel like Diane is reading a 3w4 description every time she describes BoJack.



I edited my post about Diane. I kept going back and forth between INTP and INFP. I went with INTP because she sometimes reminds me of Britta from Community (whom I believe to be ENFJ) aka someone who seeks external validation to figure out if she's a good person. However, I don't think her character is written consistently (which is very human of her) -- I can think right now of an equal amount of times when she brooded on whether or not she was a good person all by herself. You could say her crashing at BoJack's/hiding from Mr. Peanutbutter qualifies as her running from Mr. Peanutbutter's expressiveness to stew by herself. Why 6 over 1, though?



So/sx 9? Huh. I would say 7 fits that description of absence, but I know what you're talking about. Then again, I think sx 7 makes a lot of sense for him too. He is the dictionary definition of suggestible. He gets heart eyes and piggybacks on possibilities.



*high-five*
BoJack doesn't come off very Ne, however he's definitely Se role over Se polr (eg his stupid argument with the seal, lolololol). You know I definitely see him having a 3w4 as a heart center (I wrote 3w4 first but then just with 3 because idk about 3w2); why do I think of him as a core 7, though? I see a lot of his heart center but I feel like so much of the show is about how he's just going through the motions of his life, doing to run away from his problems, internal or otherwise. Also, I feel like he'd be a more focused, driven and hardworking person if he were 3, which yeah, I know sounds stereotypical but even the underachieving 3s in my life have this ... success seeking vibe. Meh, I wish I could be more articulate, eff my Ti polr :'( . Honestly, the way Bojack spent his life after Horsin' Around ended and this show began strikes me as very un3. 3s have this restlessness when it comes to achieving; although to be fair, I can see him as a disintegrated 3: strong connection to the low point of 9: uninvolved and uninterested in his own life. Also Horseman comes off as an sx/sp to me and while I can see a 7w6 sx/sp fucking up the way Horseman does, it's hard for me to believe that an 3 sx/sp could do the same.

Also, star_tripper, why do you think he's 3w4 and not 3w2? I'd really like to know about your take on the difference between the two and why Horseman is clearly the former in your opinion.

Britta is an INFP, I'm an ENFP, trust me the lower Te sometimes leads us to want to hear from other people that we matter. So, I'm going to with INFP for Diane. If she's INFP in MBTI, then, she's Fe-ignoring in socionics. I'm a Fi-ENFp so I relate to a certain level. I'd think she was Fe inferior but whenever I do see her discomfort in situations where she has to express her feelings, there's some very Fi valuing about it. For those of us who are Fi dom/aux, Fe can sometimes feel uncomfortable for us when we HAVE to use it. I believe season 3 deals with the difference between how Diane relates to emotional environments versus how Mr Peanutbutter does the same thing. They're a nice example of a mirage couple <3 . And a somewhat rare one at that.

Mr Peanutbutter behaves like this ESFJ 9 so/sx friend I have, a very pleasant person who's very enthusiastic about people and ideas. I'd say he has a strong 7sx in his tritype (eg I'm 4 sx/sp and I have a strong connection to 2 sp) so we're both on to something :).

And highfives to you, too, :) . I <3 Princess Carolyn.

(ALSO, you're Ti-ENTp and I'm Fi-ENFP :D and we're sx-firsts, who like Bojack, yaaaay!)
 
Also Diane has apparent anxiety and not repressed anger, hence 6 over 1; she could have 1 in her tritype though, 1w9 maybe. She also strikes me as someone who is very 6 sp: reasonable, diplomatic, eager and able to find out what connects us as humans (eg the scene where she tries to justify to Bojack in Penguin Publishers' office that by portraying Bojack as a flawed character, he will become relatable and endearing to others.
 
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