If there was a country of intj's and a country of entp's, and said countries were to go to war, who would win and why?
Destroyer of Expectations
Neither. A country of ENTPs is bound to have one crazy enough to blow themselves and everyone else in the country up.
A country of INTJs will never get along long enough to mount an offensive and probably all end up stabbing each other in the back in a grab for power.
A country of INTJs will never get along long enough to mount an offensive and probably all end up stabbing each other in the back in a grab for power.
What are the other conditions? What resources do they have at their disposal? Military power? Do they fight with sticks? Or missiles? What are the environments of their respective countries like? We can't really answer the question unless more information is given.
There was literally a thread like this a while back, but it involved all the MBTI types. I forgot what the title was, but it was an interesting thread nonetheless. Going on for 10+ pages if my memory's correct
I think it was in this forum too
Anyway, I'd say INTJ would probably win. Ne can be very distracting and Ni seems more focused. Also, Te is a good function for productivity as well
I think it was in this forum too
Anyway, I'd say INTJ would probably win. Ne can be very distracting and Ni seems more focused. Also, Te is a good function for productivity as well
The ENTP is supposed to be diplomatic and analytical so they would take turns discussing everything in a board room without any sense of leadership. More than likely, the conversations would constantly get off track and there would never be a true conclusion about how to best handle the INTJ. Everyone would try to allow everyone to speak and someone would be standing in the front of the room with a white board and a marker. Eventually, there would be so much stuff written on it, no one could make any sense of it and the meetings would usually end with where to go for pizza.
INTJ would have far less people in their country than ENTP and no one in that country likes war or even conflict. For the first few hours, not a single person would talk or speak out loud. INTJ hates noise... among a great list of other things that people generally do. There might be some whispering here and there. People asking why they are still at the meeting, if they need to even be there, and what time it is.
Eventually, a brave INTJ would break the ice and say something needs to be done about those darn ENTP's. The INTJ's would automatically appoint said person as leader since they hate speaking in public and usually prefer not to have a sense of authority unless it is absolutely needed. However, the person appointed would resent the fact that he talked first and doesn't really want war or conflict either so he would resign and try to hand off the responsibility to someone else by the end of the first meeting. No second meeting would be made and no one would stand up and take the responsibility. The INTJ's would be in a checkmate with each other over fear of public speaking, making terrible decisions, and just the thought of sitting in another meeting with a bunch of people over something they didn't want in the first place is worse than war itself.
INTJ would have far less people in their country than ENTP and no one in that country likes war or even conflict. For the first few hours, not a single person would talk or speak out loud. INTJ hates noise... among a great list of other things that people generally do. There might be some whispering here and there. People asking why they are still at the meeting, if they need to even be there, and what time it is.
Eventually, a brave INTJ would break the ice and say something needs to be done about those darn ENTP's. The INTJ's would automatically appoint said person as leader since they hate speaking in public and usually prefer not to have a sense of authority unless it is absolutely needed. However, the person appointed would resent the fact that he talked first and doesn't really want war or conflict either so he would resign and try to hand off the responsibility to someone else by the end of the first meeting. No second meeting would be made and no one would stand up and take the responsibility. The INTJ's would be in a checkmate with each other over fear of public speaking, making terrible decisions, and just the thought of sitting in another meeting with a bunch of people over something they didn't want in the first place is worse than war itself.
The results would depend on the nature of the conflict…
If it was a skirmish, a battle or even a short campaign, the ENTP badass warlords would definitely prevail because:
• Operationally speaking, they’re more flexible and adaptable than the average INTJ
• Their improvisation skills are superb
• They seldom hesitate to resort to the speedy use of brute force (Blitzkrieg) to vanquish anyone standing in their way
• Likely wealthier and more powerful (in conventional terms), in general
• Lots of allies
• Lots of expendable troops and minions
• Strong morale
• Remarkable leadership capabilities
• Tons of assertiveness
• Self-confident character
• They could rely on their superior prestige (a.k.a. “soft power”) to harness considerable internal and external support
• Better propaganda (they’re louder)
In this scenario, the INTJs would be crushed even before they could tell what’s going on. :shocked:
However, if it was a low intensity conflict (e.g. a “cold war”), the INTJ masterminds would certainly vanquish the ENTP magnificent warriors through:
• Force multipliers
• Asymmetric equalizers
• Diplomatic intrigue (“divide and rule”)
• Balkanization
• Wars of attrition
• Spread of disease (through poison, germs, drugs, alcohol)
• Proxy wars
• Scorched earth tactics
• Financial attacks (debasement of currency, predatory speculation, spread of false rumors)
• Hostile takeovers of the ENTPs’ businesses
• Disruption of critical and profitable trade flows (a.k.a. piracy)
• Psychological ops and disinformation
• Stealth and cunning
• Surgical strikes
• Better and more technologically advanced weaponry
• Subversion (instigating coups) and manipulation (fueling discontent and discord)
• Luring the ENTPs into an unwinnable arms race (how long can perceivers endure an exhausting, lengthy and costly competition)
In this scenario, the INTJ chess masters could defeat the ENTP conquerors or even make them collapse or implode, with minimum casualties, even though it might take decades. Perhaps the ENTPs wouldn’t even find out the INTJs were behind it all along :kitteh:
If it was a skirmish, a battle or even a short campaign, the ENTP badass warlords would definitely prevail because:
• Operationally speaking, they’re more flexible and adaptable than the average INTJ
• Their improvisation skills are superb
• They seldom hesitate to resort to the speedy use of brute force (Blitzkrieg) to vanquish anyone standing in their way
• Likely wealthier and more powerful (in conventional terms), in general
• Lots of allies
• Lots of expendable troops and minions
• Strong morale
• Remarkable leadership capabilities
• Tons of assertiveness
• Self-confident character
• They could rely on their superior prestige (a.k.a. “soft power”) to harness considerable internal and external support
• Better propaganda (they’re louder)
In this scenario, the INTJs would be crushed even before they could tell what’s going on. :shocked:
However, if it was a low intensity conflict (e.g. a “cold war”), the INTJ masterminds would certainly vanquish the ENTP magnificent warriors through:
• Force multipliers
• Asymmetric equalizers
• Diplomatic intrigue (“divide and rule”)
• Balkanization
• Wars of attrition
• Spread of disease (through poison, germs, drugs, alcohol)
• Proxy wars
• Scorched earth tactics
• Financial attacks (debasement of currency, predatory speculation, spread of false rumors)
• Hostile takeovers of the ENTPs’ businesses
• Disruption of critical and profitable trade flows (a.k.a. piracy)
• Psychological ops and disinformation
• Stealth and cunning
• Surgical strikes
• Better and more technologically advanced weaponry
• Subversion (instigating coups) and manipulation (fueling discontent and discord)
• Luring the ENTPs into an unwinnable arms race (how long can perceivers endure an exhausting, lengthy and costly competition)
In this scenario, the INTJ chess masters could defeat the ENTP conquerors or even make them collapse or implode, with minimum casualties, even though it might take decades. Perhaps the ENTPs wouldn’t even find out the INTJs were behind it all along :kitteh:
The damn ENFP's / ISFJ cuddle muffins will wasp into middle of the war looking for INTJ hugs and ruin everything easily as the ultimate distraction.
Intjs would win because we can use our dominant Ni to know what the entp's will do before hand. Entps would be confused because they would see to many outcomes to the war and likely pick the wrong one resulting in a swift decisive intj victory. The only issue here is that entp's may recognize there short comings, and decide to convince a host of enfp's to take front lines and distract while they eventually get around to attacking us. Intjs could try the same thing with infjs, but since we as a whole have half the people skills that entps do, the infjs fe will be put off by us, and decide that theyd rather just help the entps destroy there fellow inj's.
Sigh, i spent too much time thinking about this. Whats sad is i couldve kept going.
Sigh, i spent too much time thinking about this. Whats sad is i couldve kept going.
they will team up and destroy the real enemy, the intp. hmmm i wonder why destroyer of expectations posted this thread... oh wait... oh yea...intp :exterminate:
The ENTP's win. INTJs would be crushing us, apparently cruising to an easy victory.
Then right as it appears they are about to win, the INTJ forces realize they're in a mockup of the ENTP kingdom. The INTJs try desperately to get away, but the fake city collapses into a giant pit, filled with with half-finished ENTP mechanical projects.
The projects are mostly quite stabby.
This kills the whole INTJ army.
Meanwhile, the remaining ENTPs have already moved into INTJ homes and started having sexual intercourse with their enthusiastic and grateful women.
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...or at least, that's the plan I presented in the meeting where we decided to play Madden on the PS4.
Then right as it appears they are about to win, the INTJ forces realize they're in a mockup of the ENTP kingdom. The INTJs try desperately to get away, but the fake city collapses into a giant pit, filled with with half-finished ENTP mechanical projects.
The projects are mostly quite stabby.
This kills the whole INTJ army.
Meanwhile, the remaining ENTPs have already moved into INTJ homes and started having sexual intercourse with their enthusiastic and grateful women.
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...or at least, that's the plan I presented in the meeting where we decided to play Madden on the PS4.
ENTP's convince ENFPs that they love them and pimp them out as war consorts to INTJs, thereby securing their secrets. INTJs loose mega battle that they'd been planning for a long time because of some ENFP type running their mouth. 'nuff said.
on the other hand...
INTJs foresee the above problem and use their ENFP mistresses to distract tne ENTPs in a massive orgy during which they send a Trojan horse stuffed with XSTPs and annihilate the ENTPs.
on the other hand...
INTJs foresee the above problem and use their ENFP mistresses to distract tne ENTPs in a massive orgy during which they send a Trojan horse stuffed with XSTPs and annihilate the ENTPs.
The ENTP would win the war, while pockets of INTJ manage to escape - only to exterminate the entire planet at a later date.
A country that is made up of only INTJs or ENTPs wouldn't even function. They'd starve to death.
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