ENTP who is not so creative, but full of thoughts?

You understood MBTI, you haven't understood personalities nor yourself yet. Have fun along the way! Welcome!

If necessity is the mother of invention, then tedium/boredom is the father. I will happily spend 6 hours creating a unique solution to complete a series of tasks that would have taken me 1 hour to just do manually one at a time the old boring way.

A problem with today's youth is they don't (feel they) need to solve their own problems. With no problems to solve, there are no opportunities to come up with ingenuitive solutions. Look for opportunities to think out side the box. Think of common things and ponder "how could i do this better?". Don't be surprised if half the time you end up thinking of something completely unrelated to the original train of thought.

I am no expert but I will recommend you
try enneagram. A lot of what you are
mentioning can be related to feelings
and emotions which is not MBTI as
much.

This may tie you in to making a firm choice
towards your end game of MBTI type. (Type 7/8 are big ENTP)

I will also recommend taking the MBTI test during
different emotional states. Try that. You may be
surprised.

From what I am lead to believe the test determines
the results. Not reading descriptions and doing self
comparatives.

The mind and emotions may lead you astray when
indulging in self diagnosis. Especially if you are
younger.

tonidiscover said:

I always found myself lost in thoughts so many times within a day (walking in nature, working itself, talking to my friends, eating dinner). For many, I've always been seen as an extroverted 'cause of my out-going and friendly attitude. However, I need time to be alone to 'recharge' (reading my fictional books or watching videos about self-improvement, arts, psychology, altruism). If i'm alone for too long, then I have to go somewhere crowded (party or group events) to 'recharge' again....basically a balance of both.

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ENTPs value their cognitive time quite a lot, and if they need to get that cognitive time alone they will do it. If I can get it while engaged with someone, more power to me, but most people just aren't interested in that kind of crap (crap from their perspective). Usually the only time I spend alone alone is when I am learning something I want to learn, or reading.

tonidiscover said:

If i'm fascinated about something (a conceptual idea or a person), I'll do all my researches and will make sure to share what I have learned with at least one of my friends or family members, until I knew it too well or just lost my interests.

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Hahahaha. . . ha . . . ha . . . I'm going to go and start looking up shoes online now. (sorry inside joke from another thread about an ENTP and her ESFJ co-worker) I do this a lot.

tonidiscover said:

However, I noticed that I'm not a creative person. I don't just sh*** out ideas like many ENTPs here always said. If there is a problem in front of me, I cannot just come up with ideas to fix it.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there are some problems I just can't solve or figure out. I need input from people who can understand the problem before I can fix it. And sometimes, that doesn't work even then. Creativity isn't necessarily shitting out ideas to solve problems. (Though it can seem that way.) The thing about Ne is that you look at different possibilities to a particular problem or event, and it gets sorted out. Even if it's in a framework of limited information, thos posibilities will come to the surface as plausible explanations for whatever it is. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

tonidiscover said:

. . .but the only reason behind this is so that I can live so freaking long to enjoy learning new knowledge, trying out new things, and doing the things that I want. Also, I'm super procrastinated (especially doing things I don't like). Luckily, I graduated without changing my majors more than 2 times; but again I feel stuck in my field (damn it). I'm super optimistic & full of possibilities (not into money much nor afraid of getting older; just fear that I won't able to find out and do the things that I really want in life).

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tonidiscover said:

Do you practice your creativity or it just came naturally after childbirth? I'm still confused.

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I've yet to meet a truly unoriginal person. I don't believe that I am particularly creative, even though that's crap.

You don't need our expertise. You already know the answer

tonidiscover said:

so that I can live so freaking long to enjoy learning new knowledge, trying out new things!

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Stooop. You should say here : ...to enjoy understanding and solving problems, coming up with new solutions. New knowledge, experiences, that's extraverted sensing.

tonidiscover said:

Do you practice your creativity or it just came naturally after childbirth?

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Virtuous circle, two symptoms of a same development : The egg is the chicken. I've always been the most creative kid in the room, and the gap only became wider and wider. I always practiced it at all times. I wanted to come up with the most creative solutions and challenge myself to exceed all expectations. I didn't want to do what people expected from me but what they couldn't expect to be even possible. Which I did quite a few times already. All my thoughts are dominated by that urge.

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But don't think that doing, say, artistic creativities can turn someone into a creative monster. I grew up with two HIQ INTPs, my father and closest cousin (about my age).. both interested in sciences and arts, my cousin and I did the same things together during childhood/teen years; drawing, playing music, inventing some videogame concepts.. but he never developped my quality of imagination, he wasn't creatively aggressive enough, he and my father valued knowledge way too much and were too prudent with their intuitions. Practicing arts didn't teach them the proper way to think, to build in depth. The nature was definitely stronger than nurture, and very ironically, what was wrong with their nature is their responsiveness to nurture.

As an example, I always looked at math & numbers differently than anyone I knew. Without really trying to I taught myself what is described today as common core math. Show the 12 steps to show how I arrived at an answer I could immediately see with a couple quick calculation in my head? Aint nobody got time for that. When forced to show my work (or start getting anything less than A+), being the trouble maker I was, I would first write the answer, then do it "their" way, then write "told you".

creativity is one of those things like humor that's kinda subjective and hard to judge in yourself.

I do revel tho in things that give me opportunities to be creative; art, music, challenges w/ no clear solutions, and I like to make witty jokes whenever I can

..so being creative might have more to do w/ desire to and excitement about being creative than actually some inner ability

and w/ that being said people who label themselves as uncreative may be more a lack of confidence than inability.
there's was this interesting ted talk about it awhile back
https://www.ted.com/talks/david_kelley_how_to_build_your_creative_confidence?language=en

tho entp thinking does tend to be unconventional,which prob comes from strong Ne thinking....so that might have something to do w/creativity. Our weirdness is called creativity when it's applicable, people like and embrace it, but prob more often people just label it as weirdness.

It could be that you, @tonidiscover are an ESTP. I mean being an S type doesn't mean you don't have a strong intuitive side. I look at it more a matter of which takes priority. If you're an ESTP then, your intuitive side would be that of an ENFJ and EN-Js are strong in taking in ideas/theories and applying them more than constructing their own.. so that might fit in w/ what you described. The whole needing to recharge both socially and alone I think would fit w/ any E--P type. If you're an ESTP you'de prob be creative at coming up w/ solutions to more immediate problems, but perhaps because it's lil life hacks you come up with and not grand scheme things you don't credit yourself w/ being creative. Then again people are all different and we prob shouldn't get all hung up on types anyway.

And if you do feel you want to be more creative in a situation it's often good to look at ways of relating things that conventionally would be considered unrelated and don't be afraid to come up with a stupid idea or creating things that others won't like. I mean I don't think being creative is hard...i think it's being afraid to look like an idiot that stops people more than anything.

Not saying you created or came up with anything totally original, but have you come up with something cool using other existing works, at least?

We ENTPs are known to be lazy in the first place ... so if you can be less lazy, can you do that?

We are not artists, we are ideas people.

We look at existing art, and think up of new and better ways to express that art, or think it up an concept and let other artists finish it.

After reading all your kind responses and digging a little bit deeper into understanding myself, i realize that there is a high possibility of me having a balance level of Extraverted Sensing & Intuition (maybe a bit more Se). @IDontThinkSo was right about my extraverted sensing, I'm more interested in obtaining new knowledge (from books or experiences of different fields/subjects) and applying them into the real world efficiently. If I certainly discover doing A or B will definitely help me in any kind of ways, I'll try my best to accomplish that (e.g. eating habit, reading more books, going to different events, doing more workouts bla bla bla).

I guess I'm an open-minded realist in that way; however, I don't often live life in a here and now like many of you would describe an ESTP. I'm not so materialistic & often do not focus too much on the details in my life. I prefer a minimalist lifestyle but definitely not a boring/repetitive one. I often find myself lost in thought when I'm in the middle of doing something or in the conversation. I actually have to practice meditation to remove those constant thoughts in my brain; however, it's quite an easy process once I start focusing on my breathing. For some people though, I noticed it may be harder for them to relax since they are always on the move to the next things.

When I'm optimistic, I see the world with full of possibilities & opportunities; I want to visit many places, talk to many wise people, learn new things, try new methods, and hopefully make an impact "somewhere".

On the other hand, when I'm pessimistic (still hopeful though), I see the world with many complicated problems that we cannot solve anytime soon. Everyone, even the smartest, are limited in their time & space; yin&yang/good&bad will always have their chances to reach their glories and find their way back to equilibrium.

In either ways, there is a deep deep down desire in my brain (sometimes I can feel it) to do something different, something that challenge social norms, something that shake a reality world a little bit so that everyone can stop for a second and observe the patterns of their lives and maybe make a change (positive/negative, could go either way). Writing this reminds me of Ben. Gram and how he wished to wake up every day to do something foolish, something creative, and something generous.

In addition, I want to thank everyone @desire machine , @Obv, @Desthro for their inputs on the creativity ability, I agree that everyone should at least try to be creative at some points in their lives (ranging from making a piece of arts to inventing a new/personalized product for themselves) and see how far those ideas can take us to. I definitely want to practice/improve this not-so-natural ability myself and hopefully my logical thinking can help me along the way.

Anyhow, I'm glad to join and share my thoughts with the community.