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An idea I had which I'm sure has been done in one way or another. I personally think it's pretty intuitive.
I'm still trying to think of the best way to explain it fully in words but.. basically, take your MBTI type and switch the two preferences which are the weakest and you get your subtype.

For me, it's ENTP(ENFJ) since ENTP is my MBTI type and my weakest preferences are T and P and my strongest are E and N, so that makes me an ENTP(ENFJ).

So for ENTPs, there are six subtypes.

ENTP(INFP) - the NP ENTP
ENTP(ENFJ) - the EN ENTP
ENTP(INTJ) - the NT ENTP
ENTP(ESFP) - the EP ENTP
ENTP(ISTP) - the TP ENTP
ENTP(ESTJ) - the ET ENTP

I don't want to distract from the basics by going into descriptions of each subtype but you can get the gist just from the names of the subtypes.

So I'm curious, what's your subtype according to this?
 
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By that theory:
IT are my strongest types therefore:

ISTj SLI
ISTp LSI
INTj ILI
INTp LII

This holds some merit due to this I did previously:

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Though I am predominately more: INTx ILI / LII.

Not sure if this is meant to be socionics or not....
 
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No, you're skipping a very important part of Mbti:cognitive functions.Me having a theoretically low J wouldn't make me close to an Istp because I still have a strong preference for my function stack.

Don't even get me started about if I had a low S because my Ni is horrible.
This could only hold a bit of truth for certain pairs of types by switching the dominant and auxilary function while keeping the same function stack if they have a low preference on their extroversion/introversion.

Some examples:

-Enfp/Infp
-Estj/Istj
-Entp/Intp
-Enfj/Infj
-Esfp/Isfp

...etc
 
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LII-Ne, which roughly means in socionics term that I am EII-ish LII; or to use MBTI terminology, INFP-ish INTP.
I am LII-2Ne, so my subtype is fairly strong, if not crazily strong (-3Ne is the strongest one, and this one is a rare one; most either don't have any subtype ("-0"), weak subtype ("-1xx"), or moderate subtype ("-2xx")).
 
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Jakuri said:
LII-Ne, which roughly means in socionics term that I am EII-ish LII; or to use MBTI terminology, INFP-ish INTP.
I am LII-2Ne, so my subtype is fairly strong, if not crazily strong (-3Ne is the strongest one, and this one is a rare one; most either don't have any subtype ("-0"), weak subtype ("-1xx"), or moderate subtype ("-2xx")).
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Yo Jakuri, my subtype is ILI/ 2Te what does that suggest? I haven't had the time to begin my Socionics journey after the enneagram.
 
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Shinsei said:
Yo Jakuri, my subtype is ILI/ 2Te what does that suggest? I haven't had the time to begin my Socionics journey after the enneagram.
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Here, I am using the inert/contact subtype. Socionics has many subtype models, but this is the one being used the most. The inert subtype strengthens your leading function (1), PoLR (4), mobilizing (6), and ignoring (7) while the contact subtype strengthens your creative function (2), role (3), suggestive (5), and demonstrative (8).

So in the case of ILI, ILI-Te would have Se/Si and Te/Ti strengthened while ILI-Ni would have Ni/Ne and Fi/Fe strengthened. So ILI-Te would be "ST-ish" ILI, so compared to the other subtype (ILI-Ni, "NF-ish" NT) the Te subtype is more likely to have their feet on the ground, and appears to focus more on practicality and productivity and to be more rational due to that strengthened T. More about this here: Socionics Types: ILI-INTp Subtypes

In my case, I am LII-2Ne, so Ne/Ni and Fe/Fi are strengthened, making me an NF-ish LII or EII-ish LII. On the other hand, narci is LII-1Ti, so Ti/Te and Si/Se are strengthened. So narci comes off as more dry, serious, and succinct in his writing. He comes across as more cool-headed, calm and collected. I have a fairly strong Ne subtype, so airiness and dreaminess tend to be more apparent -- though being Ti leading I would still come off quite serious to many people who don't know me well enough. I also suspect that compared to narci, I come across as a bit more expressive of my emotions, and the way I write has more "feeler-y" tone/vibe because of this (as in my emotions kind of come across from the way I write). It was interesting that ColdNobility, Bibbon et al noticed differences between narci and me, despite both of us being INTP.
 
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Shinsei said:
Yo Jakuri, my subtype is ILI/ 2Te what does that suggest? I haven't had the time to begin my Socionics journey after the enneagram.
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ISTJ-ish INTJ or SLI-ish ILI.

I'm not sure what ILI-Ni would be. Maybe IEI-ish ILI / INFJ-ish INTJ.

I presume the -xx is like a lockdown i.e. ILI-Ni locks down Ni-Je and therefore the Je can alter (INFJ or INTJ).
 
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Jakuri said:
Here, I am using the inert/contact subtype. Socionics has many subtype models, but this is the one being used the most. The inert subtype strengthens your leading function (1), PoLR (4), mobilizing (6), and ignoring (7) while the contact subtype strengthens your creative function (2), role (3), suggestive (5), and demonstrative (8).

So in the case of ILI, ILI-Te would have Se/Si and Te/Ti strengthened while ILI-Ni would have Ni/Ne and Fi/Fe strengthened. So ILI-Te would be "ST-ish" ILI, so compared to the other subtype (ILI-Ni, "NF-ish" NT) the Te subtype is more likely to have their feet on the ground, and appears to focus more on practicality and productivity and to be more rational due to that strengthened T. More about this here: Socionics Types: ILI-INTp Subtypes

In my case, I am LII-2Ne, so Ne/Ni and Fe/Fi are strengthened, making me an NF-ish LII or EII-ish LII. On the other hand, narci is LII-1Ti, so Ti/Te and Si/Se are strengthened. So narci comes off as more dry, serious, and succinct in his writing. He comes across as more cool-headed, calm and collected. I have a fairly strong Ne subtype, so airiness and dreaminess tend to be more apparent -- though being Ti leading I would still come off quite serious to many people who don't know me well enough. I also suspect that compared to narci, I come across as a bit more expressive of my emotions, and the way I write has more "feeler-y" tone/vibe because of this (as in my emotions kind of come across from the way I write). It was interesting that ColdNobility, Bibbon et al noticed differences between narci and me, despite both of us being INTP.
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Oh hey that's pretty interesting, but I want to know what would be the difference between an ILI-1te and ILI-2Te?
 
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Shinsei said:
Oh hey that's pretty interesting, but I want to know what would be the difference between an ILI-1te and ILI-2Te?
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Just different degree of accentuation? I can't say much beyond that because I can't think of anything else.
 
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Jakuri said:
Just different degree of accentuation? I can't say much beyond that because I can't think of anything else.
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Ah rightio you mentioned that Narci would come off a little more serious, So an ILI-Ni type would come of more..... what? warmer, friendlier, compared to me Te?
 
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well looks like narci covered it for me. I think what you said has some truth to it, considering that subtype is considered to be INFJ-ish INTJ. But being ILI with Fe PoLR and Fi mobilizing, still on the dry side, if not as dry as the Te subtype. The subtype description (from the source I linked) seems to put more emphasis on the psychological inertia associated with Ni due to low-dimensional Se.
 
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