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I'm trying to better understand myself and my impulses behind some of my latest actions and behavior.

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being something along the lines of listening to a song that makes *you* feel down,

to 10 being the death of your most cherished mammal in the world (pet, human, whatever) what are your behaviors and coping mechanisms for each stage 1-10?

What do you do that's "unhealthy", what are some of the best ways you've handled negative emotions/disappointment/grief/depression/rejection/etc?
 
remind myself of the impermanence of everything, even my own perceived suffering. i find that comforting

for major emotional discomfort i allow myself a day of grieving, then attempt to move on, i think its either a 1 or a 10 i dont feel as though there is and in-between for me, ratings 1-9 i feel as though are just setbacks and an appropriate work around can be arranged where as a 10 is like the death of an extremely close loved one and requires more delicate handling.

I do my best to not get hung up on such things, but thats not to say i have forgotten these experiences. I tend to attempt to work out what caused such emotions and from that learn to better manage them or just let them go entirely.
 
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remind myself of the impermanence of everything, even my own perceived suffering. i find that comforting

for major emotional discomfort i allow myself a day of grieving, then attempt to move on, i think its either a 1 or a 10 i dont feel as though there is and in-between for me, ratings 1-9 i feel as though are just setbacks and an appropriate work around can be arranged where as a 10 is like the death of an extremely close loved one and requires more delicate handling.

I do my best to not get hung up on such things, but thats not to say i have forgotten these experiences. I tend to attempt to work out what caused such emotions and from that learn to better manage them or just let them go entirely.
So you'd definitely say that you have a pretty healthy attitude /approach towards dealing with shit? Damn I'm jealous lol. Has it always been like this for you? Do you ever have "slip-ups"?
 
hmm, on the lower end of the scale of suffering, i would distract myself by playing video games or otherwise wasting time watching anime and such.
however things like the death of a important pet would result in a period of listlessness or inactivity, most of it goes away after a good night sleep.

I found it strange of myself to not be affected much about emotional suffering, it feels as if those feelings are hard to grasp on a long period of time and rarely is it due to sorrow but rather a lack of motivation to do anything at all, in a sense i feel a rebound to keep on moving regardless of what happens to me.
 
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hmm, on the lower end of the scale of suffering, i would distract myself by playing video games or otherwise wasting time watching anime and such.
however things like the death of a important pet would result in a period of listlessness or inactivity, most of it goes away after a good night sleep.

I found it strange of myself to not be affected much about emotional suffering, it feels as if those feelings are hard to grasp on a long period of time and rarely is it due to sorrow but rather a lack of motivation to do anything at all, in a sense i feel a rebound to keep on moving regardless of what happens to me.
Did you have any early childhood traumas? Or late childhood traumas? Or traumas of any kind?
 
In order of bad from mild to worst:
1. Ignore it
2. Talk to myself briefly (it's going to be okay, it's not as bad as it seems, keep perspective etc)
3. When appropriate and possible, ask for advice or help
4. Stay busy
5. Reaffirm my plans and values (priority, perspective)
6. Take time to sit and think it through in a problems have solutions manner
7. Try to shift sadness to anger if appropriate and possible, then take action
8. Take comfort (my bed, bubble bath, watch tv, read something delicious, watch sunset, swim)
9. Cry in bed (although I'd describe this as not coping)
10. Take it easy, reduce regular expectations on myself, go for long walks, do some 8 & 9 above, give my grief time to pass (may be days or more depending on how bad the trauma was)
 
So you'd definitely say that you have a pretty healthy attitude /approach towards dealing with shit? Damn I'm jealous lol. Has it always been like this for you? Do you ever have "slip-ups"?
mmm perhaps its not healthy? from what ive read/experienced some feelings are just meant to be felt and not "solved". I have trouble doing that, just feeling and not solving what caused such distress.

As ive gotten older ive learnt to just accept things that i cannot change (someone died? i am not a doctor. i made a mistake? ok ill just hop in my time machine... and so on) and use what i can to my benefit if need be. When i was younger i probably had a harder time coping with things as i am sure most people were/are.

i am not saying im some sort of machine haha i just dont see the value in dwelling on things too much.
 
Did you have any early childhood traumas? Or late childhood traumas? Or traumas of any kind?
i wouldn't call it a trauma, but i did went through a lot of suffering in my childhood, i.e secluded by my peers, ridiculed. basically a black sheep which I believe that's the reason I'm less empathetic.
 
I think coping is a learned behavior. It would depend on the examples you saw of others coping. Left to the randomness of it, you would get a random result of positive and negative coping mechanisms.

I tend to dwell and remain in place until dealt with. However long that takes.
 
What do you do that's "unhealthy", what are some of the best ways you've handled negative emotions/disappointment/grief/depression/rejection/etc?
Worst coping mechanism? Fetal position with a bottle of Jack Daniels wailing to Tom Waits. Fortunately this doesn't happen often.

The healthiest way I handle 'negative' emotions is going for a hike on an un-populated trail-- talking myself through it out loud, having a cry, letting it out. Usually by the end of my babbling walk I've had an epiphany of sorts.
 
What do you do that's "unhealthy", what are some of the best ways you've handled negative emotions/disappointment/grief/depression/rejection/etc?
I believe many INTJs (including me in the past) handle emotions in unhealthy way. As we know what we are good at, we also know what we are not god at- we tend to accept that feelings department ( Fi tertiary) is not our strength. I used to bury and deny negative emotions- it is just easier to be strong and in control of myself.


What I do now:

1-3 scale - I can redirect myself easily- change the song, ignore the person, leave the room ( or withdraw mentally if I can not leave) and redirect to more pleasurable place, activity. It may be walk, work, talking to someone nice, focusing on some pleasant sensations ( wind, rain on a face, scent i like), bringing a thought of some sweet anticipation
1-5 scale - close quiet physical contact with a loved one would diminished negative feelings easily, accepting peaceful presence of a good friend is very helpful as well
3-6 scale - I focus on accepting the feeling, describing it in details and closely look for the cause- understanding helps us to calm down... Then I focus on changing perspective - finding good aspects in this particular situation, or comparing it to something good -WAY bigger, to make the negative emotion smaller and not so important

6-10 scale - I've learn I have to face the pain an go through... I feel it, and don't deny it. I believe it is part of being honest with self. Usually I have to remove myself as people around don't accept the feeling ( so I feel to be not accepted myself). For me accepting the feeling, and honestly going through- helps me to not carry the grudges and resentments in the future. Helps me to close it and forget it. Then, it comes the " proper perspective" part. I can always find a wonderful things in painful situations and cherish them, closing the pain as a valuable lesson. Like - I felt pretty bad for last two days, but I went trough, I'm strong and peaceful again. What I remember is only good now- I had new (it was fascinating on a brain level) experience- I felt vulnerable and survived it, I can be myself again. Just wiser, stronger and more peaceful.

Finding "proper perspective" part is also to focus on other people perspective to evaluate their motives and pick the "best possible intentions" that drives them. I strongly believe that when we feel hurt by other people - it just because of different perspective and drives, not bad intentions. So while assuming their best intentions- I'm trying always to see the way of their different ways of thinking and pick the best motive possible
 
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Worst coping mechanism? Fetal position with a bottle of Jack Daniels wailing to Tom Waits. Fortunately this doesn't happen often.

The healthiest way I handle 'negative' emotions is going for a hike on an un-populated trail-- talking myself through it out loud, having a cry, letting it out. Usually by the end of my babbling walk I've had an epiphany of sorts.
What are you talking about jack daniels and tom waits sounds like a beautiful combination
 
I usually cope — by being alone; for sufficient self-care / self-reboot, isolation — and perhaps, an unstable (Se)-fixation. If I do this correctly; I have enough (self-rebooting juice) to battle through it; without dwelling within it. Upon the unexpected death of my father earlier this year; while I was sad — the funeral arrangement(s) needed to be done.

My mindset ::

''It has to be done.'' - and my accomplishment; that is, giving him a decent funeral — was more satisfying than any soaking up the pillows + sitting around discussing malfunctions / problems on the shoulders of strangers / relatives. A magnificent funeral for a magnificent man - and that is what he deserved; there wasn't really sufficient time for a sob-fest, in a sense, I appreciated it. Do not let me dwell; by any means -- as this where the sensitivities to unhealthy (mechanism) arises. (e.g., drinking / sugars / - high-sex / pleasure indulgences) with depleting physical health.


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There is a notion that such coping mechanism's are ''unhealthy,'' (perhaps to another type) — I disagree; rather it is a coping mechanism unique to INTJ — and indeed, an eminently subjective one, like there is one unique to ISFJ - INFP - ENFJ - ISFP. I will not perceive, nor solve problem(s) like an INFJ — why should I ''cope'' akin to one; in a way that is most efficient for an INFJ; rather than an INTJ.

While it is not the recommended 'coping' mechanism — I have yet, to necessarily been disappointed in such a coping alternative. My problem(s) get solved, relatively fast — in fact, with as little outside-knowledge / outside-help as possible, or simplistically with a one-on-one approach.

I am most comfortable; dealing with strong emotion(s) within my own privacy sanctum — (e.g., they are exposed, and resolved), I would not be comfortable anywhere else, and when outside my privacy sanctum. Like I tell the religious - that wonder how ''atheists'' cope, it is merely through seeking ways to overcome; endure than hold hands and dwell.

Someone warned me; if I do not ''let it out'' and whine hysterically on strange shoulders; it will ''come out later'' (e.g., in anger, or unexpectedly).

I disagree, and this has never occurred for myself. It is not the the type of 'coping' mechanism that causes so many (malfunctions); rather the inabilities to cope at all (untreated sadness) and indeed, the former is only one way.
 
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Thanks for the answers, they're informative and interesting.

Have been going through some shit for awhile now and actually find myself turning to netflix, inaction, and romantic attraction or a fuckbuddy as a means to "feel ok". Anyone have any experience w the latter two as coping mechanisms/fillers?
 
There's one pretty simple answer for all of 1 to 10. Alone time. My first instinct it to retreat into my turtle shell, and obviously, no one is allowed in. What I do with my alone time is what separates the 1 to 10, depending on the actual situation of course.
 
Repression, Denial, Flight, Compensation, Projection, Rationalization, Displacement, Reaction Formation.

Defense Mechanisms are an unconscious mental process to protect oneself from anxiety, unpleasant emotions, or to provide a refuge from a situation with which the individual cannot currently cope.

If it has a negative impact on your life then, identify the behaviors, identify the root causes, deal with the causes. Learn to recognize your particular behaviors so you know when to do something different.

Obviously pure armchair psych.
 
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