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For the record, although the self-selection ratios in that table (the second column from the right) were properly calculated, the last column ("% Gifted per Type") is based on a truly boneheaded calculation that does not reflect the percentage of each type that qualified as "gifted."

For anyone who's interested, that table — or rather the non-boneheaded parts of it — reflects the results of this study of 5,700 gifted adolescents.
 
intelligence is in no way correlated to mbti, in my opinion. i know a lot of super smart esfps.
 
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There are some extremely intelligent esfps right on this site.

Btw my mother is a rather simple intj. What I mean is her education was primitive. I still consider her intelligent. But in regards to academia she is sort of limited. In her case I totally think it was environmental and her true strengths not in a place to be properly fostered.

There is too much weight which gets put in mbti and not enough in outside factors.

I would even guess a level of aptitude and adapting for things has to do with parental function combos and outside environment and resources a child is exposed to. For example two s's raising and N. Two N's raising an S its likely these combos challenge the off spring or could be adverse or both. All three in common might make for a super power any given direction but less versatility. Then outside all those weird combos theres demographics etc as far as resources. S & N combo parents with either might also go any given direction.

Too much goes in. Even if certain types have an inclination in capacity.
 
Giftedness by MBTI type:

INTP - 3.40
INTJ - 2.87
INFP - 2.68
INFJ - 2.67
ENTP - 2.32
ENFP - 2.03
ENTJ - 1.49
ENFJ - 1.26
ISTJ - 0.99
ISTP - 0.78
ESTP - 0.49
ISFJ - 0.40
ISFP - 0.40
ESFP - 0.28
ESTJ - 0.26
ESFJ - 0.24
And, what about ("unknown")-types. I reckon they've broken the "IQ [giftedness]" scale at a staggering 4.00.
 
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For the record, although the self-selection ratios in that table (the second column from the right) were properly calculated, the last column ("% Gifted per Type") is based on a truly boneheaded calculation that does not reflect the percentage of each type that qualified as "gifted."

For anyone who's interested, that table — or rather the non-boneheaded parts of it — reflects the results of this study of 5,700 gifted adolescents.
Turns out ESFPs with high IQ are rare (15th)
 
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You have to specify what "high intelligence" means. Otherwise people are liable to start posting about their own personal ideas about intelligence just like they do every time someone makes a thread about intelligence.
Traditional IQ, not emotional one. Those with scores of higher than average.
 
You have to specify what "high intelligence" means. Otherwise people are liable to start posting about their own personal ideas about intelligence just like they do every time someone makes a thread about intelligence.
As I was typing my own idea about intelligence I read your post.

My life is now in a never-ending stasis on repeat. Thanks...

But seriously, ESFPs are plenty "smart" by the generic understanding of the term. A lot of them just give off the impression that they aren't. There's no way to tell unless you get to know them though, as is true for anybody.
 
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But seriously, ESFPs are plenty "smart" by the generic understanding of the term. A lot of them just give off the impression that they aren't. There's no way to tell unless you get to know them though, as is true for anybody.
I kinda expect very unique thinking pattern of ESFPs due to their rarity or at least statistical rarity. All intelligent people are like ilness of humanity. They are not needed in normal society, something must have happened in evoliution, something really weird.
 
I kinda expect very unique thinking pattern of ESFPs due to their rarity or at least statistical rarity. All intelligent people are like ilness of humanity. They are not needed in normal society, something must have happened in evoliution, something really weird.
I don't follow any of that. ESFPs aren't rare by any statistics that I know of. They range anywhere from 7-12% of the population.

And you're saying that intelligent people aren't needed in normal society? You need to define "intelligence" and "normal society" or your words will just fall into obscurity.

I think that entire human neocortex is pretty weird. There's nothing else like it on the planet. No ape or dolphin holds a candle to it, contrary to popular belief.

What I'm getting at is, intelligence, vaguely defined, is a choice. People can use the "product of your environment" BS all day long (which includes genetics) but until you sit down and relentlessly read books for years, you're going to be an average joe susceptible to Alzheimer's and popular opinion for the rest of your life.
 
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