What would you say are the distinguishing characteristics of an enneagram 1 sx variant? Any of you out there who can give me some insight?
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Distinguishing characteristics of 1 sx
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What would you say are the distinguishing characteristics of an enneagram 1 sx variant? Any of you out there who can give me some insight?
Thanks.
Thanks.
LoLz.
There are two threads for Sx 1 in the four most-recent normal threads (besides your own).
I suggest that you take a look at them.
Sexual Type One descriptions collected from several source. Within these profiles some very different sets of traits have been brought up. The thing to remember is that while 1s are in the Anger Gut triad, the virtue of Type 1 is "Serenity", so sexual 1s aren't always the fire-breathing dragons as they are described to be, but if the occasion arises ...
1s generally: SX-1 are the reformers, minding others' business, perfecting others. SO-1s are perfect already. SP-1 worries too much. Problem of morality vs. moralism. SX-1 - An animal in heat. Anger infuses desire. "I have to have it and I have a right to it." Example: diamond mines in Africa - feeling that "I did the work to get the diamonds and what would the Africans use them for anyhow? They don't know what to do with diamonds, they don't appreciate them." The conquistador. I have a right to what is wanted. No shame in wanting what's not appropriate - asks "Why Not???" in response to questions of appropriateness. Rhinoceros of a person.
Sexual 1
Sexual jealousy is acted out in an angry, possessive way.
Anger that feels like fire.
A white hot rage that seizes their guts if a relationship is threatened.
A threat to sanctioned pleasure is maddening. "How dare you take what's rightfully mine!"
1's have difficulty recognizing what they want and in allowing themselves to have pleasure, that any threat to gratification feels like losing a lifeline.
You've earned the right to be loved. You deserve sexual pleasure. You're angry to being compared to a rival.
If you have been perfect there would be no contest.
This is anger directed to those who take what they want without necessarily deserving it. This is permissible anger, based on the misconduct of others.
The focal point is fidelity, but jealousy extends far beyond a sexual agreement. You can be jealous of people who get promoted, whose ideas are taken more seriously, who are popular at work. There is a need to feel right. You work hard at it and feel jealous when you're not validated.
Saying "I deserve recognition" or "You should have paid attention to me" feels safer than "I want" or "I need".
It is unthinkable to reach out openly and take what you want; but in cases of misconduct, "this has to be stopped" replaces the forbidden thought "I want to have".
Monitoring the mates actions and of critically judging whatever comes between the self and the mate. Once a genuine connection has been made, any threat from the outsider feels as if a lifeline is being cut.
When desire for another can be honestly felt, any interference brings up intense possessiveness.
Partner idealized. React with jealous judgment if their beloved acts in less-than-ideal ways. Try to control partner. Watch every step and fear that others might be more attractive to their partners. Inside they boil with jealousy and fear loss, but are unable to admit and express this imperfect feeling. The jealousy comes from the fear that another could be more perfect.
Jealousy quickly becomes possessive. You can't drop it.
Jealousy is rivalry centered around perfection - either explosive expression or total repression of criticalness.
May be possessive and jealous of mate and very self critical in comparing self against potential rival for mate; also angry and resentful of others who just take what they want.
You have to check up, you must go see, you have to know exactly who said what to whom. You want names and dates. You want confrontation. The rival shouldn't be here.
Obsessively comparing themselves with others.
A passion to do things right, to give brilliance to one's being. A passion for being righteous and to do something perfectly. The true reformer.
Can appear 8ish and assertive. More unconventional and most free of the 1's to show anger. Criticism is directed outward. Can have sadistic fantasies.
Likes the intensity of being fully and passionately engaged with another person. Sex with anger/jealousy. Takes sexual energy into zeal.
Shared standards. Idealization of partnership. Desire to find perfect person. "Till death do us part". Expect partner, family, friend, to be perfect-common set on standards. Disappointment when others don't measure up, so they must push others to share their standards. Proper-fears others will fall short. Emphasis on fidelity. Constant fears of abandonment. Even with others feels lonely. Don't spoil our perfection. Difficult to justify sexual instinct need. Idealized mate to fully express intimacy. Constant checking on-where were you? Accounting for others' time. Undermine others so that they are needed. Erupt out of control. The other causes me to be obsessed. Pushing self on others. Purge desire nature. Idealization. Platonic-pure relationships. Virginal withholding.
The sexual 1 had the strongest identification with 4. The felt they need to have the perfect mate, and the idealized relationship. The sexual 1 went on to explain that the sanctity of having perfect love gave a real sense of brilliance, alivenesses, and freedom. However any violation to an intimate relationship was devastating, generating the white hot heat of humiliation and feeling of despair. The sexual 1 saw themselves as more powerful than the other 1's describing an 8 like accessibility to anger when they knew they were right or felt violated.
Feeling of being cleansed and freed with the expression of repressed anger.
Response when entering or during a relationship is the belief that I am hopelessly flawed and imperfect and unworthy of the other, who is idealized--attribute to the other a perfection that the other could not possibly have and short-change myself. This belief is what generates that insecurity, jealousy and possessiveness.
Can be supportive and forgiving, as well as forbearing. Patient and even playful and joking with other are part of the idealized connection.
SX/SP-1: This subtype is a mass of contradictions. They want to let themselves go, but judge themselves for doing so. The difference between this type and the self-pres/sexual is that the sexual first intensity wins out. They can be highly critical of their spouses, expecting perfection from them. They can be very jealous and protective of their relationships. Their sense of humor can be sarcastic and biting. On the down side, they can be brutal to others while being very sensitive themselves to the slightest criticism. When their standards or ideals aren’t met, you’ll likely know about it. The anger and frustration is more visible in this subtype, and they also tend to be more emotionally demonstrative than the other non-sexual subtypes.
When the sexual instinct is dominant, the One's fear of not being perfect manifests directly in the realm of close personal relationships. Close bonds are the focus of their perfectionism. They focus on having a perfect mate or perfect friends and family. Competition and intensity can enter the picture.
On the high side, the contradictions and struggle usually make for a very interesting person, combining high ideals with passion. Their blind spot can be their inability to see the impact of their intensity in the social realm.
SX/SO 1: The instinctual energy of this subtype is the most at odds with their dominant Oneness. This subtype is the most intense. They are looking for perfection in everyone they are close to, not just their spouses. They can be very charismatic and engaging. They can also be very persuasive, like the social/sexual. If they have an opinion you are going to hear about it. It’s very important for them to be understood. They are outwardly competitive. Like the social/sexual, they too may be mistyped as other enneatypes. The anger that is under the surface with the other instinctual variants of type One is much more likely to be apparent with this subtype. You always know where you stand with them. They can mimic type Eight's energy in this regard. On the high side, this type is warm and engaging, but on the down side this same energy can bring with it the full brunt of the One's anger and the need to be right.
SX-1:
The Evangelist (jealousy or heat): Personal intensity + strict self control = heat. This heat is however often channeled into “safe” passions (eg religion = zeal).
Insecure: look for imagined rejection or can become obsessive jealousy in a partnership. Perfect relations are sought. Outbursts possible when pressure builds. Anger erupts if it doesn’t happen. Wants ALL the other’s’ attention. Challenge is to reconcile sexuality with morality.
Dispassionate Refiner: Personal intensity + serenity = a highly refined character. Passionate concern about an intimate other is so refined that it becomes like an elixir exquisitely suited to other’s needs. Fear of rejection & jealousy are neutralized; imperfections are made perfect by love. Fears can be admitted & discussed; there is no need to sermonize or convert.
SX-1 Emotional expressions: possessing, obsessing, holding, disapproving, impassioning, intensifying, idealizing, burning, pressurizing, containing, restraining, pointing out, adjuring, entreating, enjoining, beseeching, criticizing, disciplining, harnessing, inhibiting, confining, curbing.
Examples: ascetics, renunciates, rabble-rousers, intensifiers, zealous preachers, jealous lovers, observant partners.
SX-1 Archetypes: Monk, Nun, Ascetic, Renunciate, Evangelist, Proselytizer, Missionary, Pilgrim, Puritan, Ethical or Spiritual Counselor, Stern Confessor, Exacting Mentor, Persistent, Interrogator, Fiery Advocate, Angry Demonstrator, "Thorn in the Side", Picketer, Protester, Ranting Reformer, Passionate Lover, Possessive Friend.
1s generally: SX-1 are the reformers, minding others' business, perfecting others. SO-1s are perfect already. SP-1 worries too much. Problem of morality vs. moralism. SX-1 - An animal in heat. Anger infuses desire. "I have to have it and I have a right to it." Example: diamond mines in Africa - feeling that "I did the work to get the diamonds and what would the Africans use them for anyhow? They don't know what to do with diamonds, they don't appreciate them." The conquistador. I have a right to what is wanted. No shame in wanting what's not appropriate - asks "Why Not???" in response to questions of appropriateness. Rhinoceros of a person.
Sexual 1
Sexual jealousy is acted out in an angry, possessive way.
Anger that feels like fire.
A white hot rage that seizes their guts if a relationship is threatened.
A threat to sanctioned pleasure is maddening. "How dare you take what's rightfully mine!"
1's have difficulty recognizing what they want and in allowing themselves to have pleasure, that any threat to gratification feels like losing a lifeline.
You've earned the right to be loved. You deserve sexual pleasure. You're angry to being compared to a rival.
If you have been perfect there would be no contest.
This is anger directed to those who take what they want without necessarily deserving it. This is permissible anger, based on the misconduct of others.
The focal point is fidelity, but jealousy extends far beyond a sexual agreement. You can be jealous of people who get promoted, whose ideas are taken more seriously, who are popular at work. There is a need to feel right. You work hard at it and feel jealous when you're not validated.
Saying "I deserve recognition" or "You should have paid attention to me" feels safer than "I want" or "I need".
It is unthinkable to reach out openly and take what you want; but in cases of misconduct, "this has to be stopped" replaces the forbidden thought "I want to have".
Monitoring the mates actions and of critically judging whatever comes between the self and the mate. Once a genuine connection has been made, any threat from the outsider feels as if a lifeline is being cut.
When desire for another can be honestly felt, any interference brings up intense possessiveness.
Partner idealized. React with jealous judgment if their beloved acts in less-than-ideal ways. Try to control partner. Watch every step and fear that others might be more attractive to their partners. Inside they boil with jealousy and fear loss, but are unable to admit and express this imperfect feeling. The jealousy comes from the fear that another could be more perfect.
Jealousy quickly becomes possessive. You can't drop it.
Jealousy is rivalry centered around perfection - either explosive expression or total repression of criticalness.
May be possessive and jealous of mate and very self critical in comparing self against potential rival for mate; also angry and resentful of others who just take what they want.
You have to check up, you must go see, you have to know exactly who said what to whom. You want names and dates. You want confrontation. The rival shouldn't be here.
Obsessively comparing themselves with others.
A passion to do things right, to give brilliance to one's being. A passion for being righteous and to do something perfectly. The true reformer.
Can appear 8ish and assertive. More unconventional and most free of the 1's to show anger. Criticism is directed outward. Can have sadistic fantasies.
Likes the intensity of being fully and passionately engaged with another person. Sex with anger/jealousy. Takes sexual energy into zeal.
Shared standards. Idealization of partnership. Desire to find perfect person. "Till death do us part". Expect partner, family, friend, to be perfect-common set on standards. Disappointment when others don't measure up, so they must push others to share their standards. Proper-fears others will fall short. Emphasis on fidelity. Constant fears of abandonment. Even with others feels lonely. Don't spoil our perfection. Difficult to justify sexual instinct need. Idealized mate to fully express intimacy. Constant checking on-where were you? Accounting for others' time. Undermine others so that they are needed. Erupt out of control. The other causes me to be obsessed. Pushing self on others. Purge desire nature. Idealization. Platonic-pure relationships. Virginal withholding.
The sexual 1 had the strongest identification with 4. The felt they need to have the perfect mate, and the idealized relationship. The sexual 1 went on to explain that the sanctity of having perfect love gave a real sense of brilliance, alivenesses, and freedom. However any violation to an intimate relationship was devastating, generating the white hot heat of humiliation and feeling of despair. The sexual 1 saw themselves as more powerful than the other 1's describing an 8 like accessibility to anger when they knew they were right or felt violated.
Feeling of being cleansed and freed with the expression of repressed anger.
Response when entering or during a relationship is the belief that I am hopelessly flawed and imperfect and unworthy of the other, who is idealized--attribute to the other a perfection that the other could not possibly have and short-change myself. This belief is what generates that insecurity, jealousy and possessiveness.
Can be supportive and forgiving, as well as forbearing. Patient and even playful and joking with other are part of the idealized connection.
SX/SP-1: This subtype is a mass of contradictions. They want to let themselves go, but judge themselves for doing so. The difference between this type and the self-pres/sexual is that the sexual first intensity wins out. They can be highly critical of their spouses, expecting perfection from them. They can be very jealous and protective of their relationships. Their sense of humor can be sarcastic and biting. On the down side, they can be brutal to others while being very sensitive themselves to the slightest criticism. When their standards or ideals aren’t met, you’ll likely know about it. The anger and frustration is more visible in this subtype, and they also tend to be more emotionally demonstrative than the other non-sexual subtypes.
When the sexual instinct is dominant, the One's fear of not being perfect manifests directly in the realm of close personal relationships. Close bonds are the focus of their perfectionism. They focus on having a perfect mate or perfect friends and family. Competition and intensity can enter the picture.
On the high side, the contradictions and struggle usually make for a very interesting person, combining high ideals with passion. Their blind spot can be their inability to see the impact of their intensity in the social realm.
SX/SO 1: The instinctual energy of this subtype is the most at odds with their dominant Oneness. This subtype is the most intense. They are looking for perfection in everyone they are close to, not just their spouses. They can be very charismatic and engaging. They can also be very persuasive, like the social/sexual. If they have an opinion you are going to hear about it. It’s very important for them to be understood. They are outwardly competitive. Like the social/sexual, they too may be mistyped as other enneatypes. The anger that is under the surface with the other instinctual variants of type One is much more likely to be apparent with this subtype. You always know where you stand with them. They can mimic type Eight's energy in this regard. On the high side, this type is warm and engaging, but on the down side this same energy can bring with it the full brunt of the One's anger and the need to be right.
SX-1:
The Evangelist (jealousy or heat): Personal intensity + strict self control = heat. This heat is however often channeled into “safe” passions (eg religion = zeal).
Insecure: look for imagined rejection or can become obsessive jealousy in a partnership. Perfect relations are sought. Outbursts possible when pressure builds. Anger erupts if it doesn’t happen. Wants ALL the other’s’ attention. Challenge is to reconcile sexuality with morality.
Dispassionate Refiner: Personal intensity + serenity = a highly refined character. Passionate concern about an intimate other is so refined that it becomes like an elixir exquisitely suited to other’s needs. Fear of rejection & jealousy are neutralized; imperfections are made perfect by love. Fears can be admitted & discussed; there is no need to sermonize or convert.
SX-1 Emotional expressions: possessing, obsessing, holding, disapproving, impassioning, intensifying, idealizing, burning, pressurizing, containing, restraining, pointing out, adjuring, entreating, enjoining, beseeching, criticizing, disciplining, harnessing, inhibiting, confining, curbing.
Examples: ascetics, renunciates, rabble-rousers, intensifiers, zealous preachers, jealous lovers, observant partners.
SX-1 Archetypes: Monk, Nun, Ascetic, Renunciate, Evangelist, Proselytizer, Missionary, Pilgrim, Puritan, Ethical or Spiritual Counselor, Stern Confessor, Exacting Mentor, Persistent, Interrogator, Fiery Advocate, Angry Demonstrator, "Thorn in the Side", Picketer, Protester, Ranting Reformer, Passionate Lover, Possessive Friend.
Perhaps one of the most blatant examples of SX-1's "proselytizing heat" was Christopher Hitchens.
Hate him or love him, but he was that mixture of the "rhinoceros of a person" from Naranjo's Sexual 1 profile, the "Evangalist", the "Rabble-rousing Monk", and the "Dispassionate Refiner".
Christopher Hitchens - 1 sx/so
A much tuned down version of SX-1, but there is still that undertone of the "Refiner", the "Critic", the "Judge", and the "Evaluator" of the right and wrong going on in his video posts, though it's a diluted version compared to Hitchens.
Eisel Mazard - 1 sx/sp
Hate him or love him, but he was that mixture of the "rhinoceros of a person" from Naranjo's Sexual 1 profile, the "Evangalist", the "Rabble-rousing Monk", and the "Dispassionate Refiner".
Christopher Hitchens - 1 sx/so
A much tuned down version of SX-1, but there is still that undertone of the "Refiner", the "Critic", the "Judge", and the "Evaluator" of the right and wrong going on in his video posts, though it's a diluted version compared to Hitchens.
Eisel Mazard - 1 sx/sp
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Sounds like they have a stronger connection to 4 than other subtypes, much as the sp 4 has a stronger connection to 1 and sx 4 a stronger connection to 2... The sx types connect more strongly to their disintegration line, perhaps?
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It may appear this way at first glance, but I think that's really an erroneous impression due to an overlap between descriptions and stereotypes that are associated with the SX instinct and the "Feeling Triad" which includes type 4.
The SOC-1 would have the same connection and some aspects to themselves of a SO-4, but the SO-4 aspects wouldn't be as apparent as the SX-4 ones at a cursory impression. SOC-4 is a kind of an oddity if you think about it, and many of us who dabble in the ennneagram are not as familiar with this subtype as the sexual one, and wouldn't readily recognize its elements present in the social 1.
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Red is a great example of a Sexual/Social 1 music imo. Much of their lyrics reflects the SX-1 emotional experiences and self-expression.
And it finds me
The fight inside is coursing through my veins
And it's raging
The fight inside is breaking me again
And it finds me
The war within me pulls me under.
And without You
The fight inside is breaking me again.
I'm lost in you,
Everywhere I run
Everywhere I turn
I'm finding something new
Something I can't fight
I cannot escape
I could spend my life
Lost in you
And it finds me
The fight inside is coursing through my veins
And it's raging
The fight inside is breaking me again
And it finds me
The war within me pulls me under.
And without You
The fight inside is breaking me again.
I'm lost in you,
Everywhere I run
Everywhere I turn
I'm finding something new
Something I can't fight
I cannot escape
I could spend my life
Lost in you
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They seem 1w2 rather than 1w9; outwardly aggressive, putting too much energy in pushing words out / convincing people, etc. I am speculating there may be other evangelical / Christian rock bands with sexual One theme.
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I'm not sure about the wing to their music. I could honestly see arguments that go both ways (*retypes into a 6*
) . Their music has aggressive, assertive energy to it, but then there are songs with lyrics that speak of dissociation/dissolution in another person, like the "Lost in you" song I posted above, which is an SX-9 theme.
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That would explain why I type as a four much of the time.
I still feel type four is relevant most of the time, but there's things in type 1 I can more closely associate with. Especially when distressed/angry.
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SX/SP 1w2 - Jordan Peterson (INTP)
He exemplifies that SX-1 passion of 'zeal': "I'm going to start with the Sexual 1 first. Oscar Ichazo, from whom I learned, called the issue here in Spanish with the word "silo" [sp?]. This word in Spanish has a double translation, and it took me a while to realize that one is more relevant that the other. It's "estrus", it's "estrus" and "zeal" at the same time. It's like the quality of an animal in heat. It's an especial intensity of desire. You can say that anger potentates desire. Anger infuses any of the desires of the person with a special intensity." (reference)
He exemplifies that SX-1 passion of 'zeal': "I'm going to start with the Sexual 1 first. Oscar Ichazo, from whom I learned, called the issue here in Spanish with the word "silo" [sp?]. This word in Spanish has a double translation, and it took me a while to realize that one is more relevant that the other. It's "estrus", it's "estrus" and "zeal" at the same time. It's like the quality of an animal in heat. It's an especial intensity of desire. You can say that anger potentates desire. Anger infuses any of the desires of the person with a special intensity." (reference)
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@Sylas, your typing of Peterson is wrong.
While he does have a very big One gut fix, he's clearly Six-leading not to mention high social. He's almost certainly 6w5 with 3w4 heart fix, is certainly not social last (sp/soc or soc/sx are the two most likely possibilities), and the One fix could actually go to either wing depending on the rest of the configuration. How it comes off varies quite a bit in his very prolific output. Be that as it may, regarding the leading type:
Here is JP thinking out loud as he always does, using the typical pendular either/"double vision" thought process of E6. The lack of "gut knowing" of E1 is strikingly clear.
Here is JP doing "garnering support" against those "bad kids". Whiney little puppy with waggy tail; take me home please. sx One? Any One? Nope.
In one of our most recent installments of Canadian Everyman Stepping Up To the Plate, Jordan informs us, starting at 1 hour, 22 minutes: "It's not that I'm courageous. It's that I'm afraid of the right things".
He's a textbook strong social One-fixed Six. The only way he's an sx One "zeal" is if you subscribe to the theory of order of tritype/stacking correlation and give him the soc/sx instead of the sp/soc. Then you have social Six with sx One and sp Three, but of course that's just a fairly abstruse theory.
While he does have a very big One gut fix, he's clearly Six-leading not to mention high social. He's almost certainly 6w5 with 3w4 heart fix, is certainly not social last (sp/soc or soc/sx are the two most likely possibilities), and the One fix could actually go to either wing depending on the rest of the configuration. How it comes off varies quite a bit in his very prolific output. Be that as it may, regarding the leading type:
Here is JP thinking out loud as he always does, using the typical pendular either/"double vision" thought process of E6. The lack of "gut knowing" of E1 is strikingly clear.
Here is JP doing "garnering support" against those "bad kids". Whiney little puppy with waggy tail; take me home please. sx One? Any One? Nope.
In one of our most recent installments of Canadian Everyman Stepping Up To the Plate, Jordan informs us, starting at 1 hour, 22 minutes: "It's not that I'm courageous. It's that I'm afraid of the right things".
He's a textbook strong social One-fixed Six. The only way he's an sx One "zeal" is if you subscribe to the theory of order of tritype/stacking correlation and give him the soc/sx instead of the sp/soc. Then you have social Six with sx One and sp Three, but of course that's just a fairly abstruse theory.
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i double down on him being a type 1 core.
listen to him talk about whats meaningful (to him) ... right , wrong, correct, incorrect, morality issues paramount, stoic flexed brow gaze
this guy doesnt care about building trust between potential allies, hes just searching for whats 'right'.
talks about casual sex corrupting the soul, 4:00 exactly:
... doesnt get more 1 than that! lolz...
listen to him talk about whats meaningful (to him) ... right , wrong, correct, incorrect, morality issues paramount, stoic flexed brow gaze
this guy doesnt care about building trust between potential allies, hes just searching for whats 'right'.
talks about casual sex corrupting the soul, 4:00 exactly:
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Yeah lol where he says who's in control, you or the sexuality. :laughing:
Though I don't agree with all his views nah... I don't even think casual sex corrupts the soul, really.
Agree on it being a control issue though even if my specific reasoning is very different beyond that.
EDIT: oh watched the whole video now, LOL wtf at the idea that casual sex doesn't work out in the real world because it's just some demented adolescent fantasy. Yeah no I don't evilify it like that, it does work for some people, the people who are able to detach emotionally.
He basically says that sex always comes with its emotional side, I don't disagree but what type of emotion it comes with is what matters in terms of that: is it superficial enjoyment that's not actually linked to the sexual partner in any personal way or is it a deeper personal connection, for some people it can just be the first in some cases and it works for them in those cases.
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of course... not all 1's have the same views or values, that would be ridiculous. hah. but you just know it when he talks about stuff... you can perceive the frustration in his brows and the sternness. he's lecturing.
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Yeah I don't expect to have the same views of course. I do agree he's 1 and for similar reasons you are stating.
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