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So, I know the rage of an INFJ is all-encompassing, but I was wondering how short of a fuse you usually have. Are you slow to boil or trigger-happy, so to speak?
For example, my temper fluctuates. Some things (disrespect, abuse to animals, anyone insulting/hurting my little brother) will send me into a fury quicker than I even knew possible. Other times it takes a while for my temper to get up to that point.

Also, I was curious to see if any other INFJs had impulse-control issues, or if that's just me and my ADD. Does anybody else have trouble with impulsive spending/eating/creating/[insert activity here]? If so, how did you control it, or do you just let it loose?
 
So, I know the rage of an INFJ is all-encompassing, but I was wondering how short of a fuse you usually have. Are you slow to boil or trigger-happy, so to speak?
For example, my temper fluctuates. Some things (disrespect, abuse to animals, anyone insulting/hurting my little brother) will send me into a fury quicker than I even knew possible. Other times it takes a while for my temper to get up to that point.

Also, I was curious to see if any other INFJs had impulse-control issues, or if that's just me and my ADD. Does anybody else have trouble with impulsive spending/eating/creating/[insert activity here]? If so, how did you control it, or do you just let it loose?
I'm slow boil and trigger happy. Depends on the situation. Depends where I am too. I did work in a book store at one point and I'm able to never show negative sentiment no matter who I'm faced with when I have that hat on. At home I'm pretty spontaneous with my feelings. I have been called melodramatic. Not by my husband. He knows better than to do that... Lol. just kidding. I am impulsive and careful if that makes any sense. ...so to sum it up I'm one thing and also it's complete opposite, it seems. This is probably not very helpful... :laughing:
 
emm.. well i dont boil easily. theres just a few things that can get me really intense, someone attempting to manipulate someone (em, like me? xD) and someone getting between me and my goals. i think it has to do with my Sx SP stacking, i simply just wont tolerate rules or anything that gets in the path of my self preservation. meaning, i have my own methods for doing everything, and i wont tolerate worse methods that people try to imbue upon me. and if im hungry, theres no rule in this planet that will stop me from getting that organic rye bread.

the more unhealthy i get, the more health concerned i become, and oh, do i do it intensely. no one will stand between me and my organic rye bread. or my vitamins. yeah, its kinda lame xD.. <.<
 
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I am slow to anger, but once that threshold has been crossed, I am likewise often slow getting over it. Either way, I rarely show my temper. This is not to say that it never rears its head. I have had my moments.

I am far from impulsive, more determined, disciplined and something of a bet hedger. This is especially true where money is concerned. Interestingly, because I do concern myself to a large degree with monetary issues, when I do (rarely) make an impulsive purchase or spend a large amount of money, it acts almost like a drug, and is somewhat liberating. During my first few years in the military, when I had a steady cash flow and few obligation outside of military stuff, I was much more impulsive with my spending (i.e. blow a couple hundred bucks a night drinking on a Friday night), though I still kept it manageable for the most part.

I am more impulsive when I travel, and apt to drift about whenever I feel like it, though I still have an overriding notion of where I want to go during a particular trip and rarely deviate, or only deviate on a small scale.
 
At home I have a very short fuse. If I sense disrespect, or attitude I go off. I also call out lies and when my family says something awful towards my friends I flip out, or when someone pushes my dogs too hard when they're in the way (just an example). Keep in mind this is with my family. They are my mortal enemies yet they are the closest ones to me. With friends I typically keep to myself until a humanity related subject sparks up or if someone talks behind someone's back that I'm close to.
 
Eh, I'm one of those people that treats strangers better than I treat my family.
So temperament-wise, my family can get a rise out of me rather quickly and they'd be the ones to describe me as having a temper. Whereas friends & strangers would say I'm one of the calmest people they've ever met.

Impulse issues? Not particularly in the materialistic sense, but most of that is because I'm a minimalist. However, I can be randomly bold or outgoing from time to time, usually when I'm surrounded by people of the opposite temperament. I do like to take people past their comfort zones, but I think part of it is an internal thing -- I want to imprint a memory on both of us.
 
So, I know the rage of an INFJ is all-encompassing, but I was wondering how short of a fuse you usually have. Are you slow to boil or trigger-happy, so to speak?
For example, my temper fluctuates. Some things (disrespect, abuse to animals, anyone insulting/hurting my little brother) will send me into a fury quicker than I even knew possible. Other times it takes a while for my temper to get up to that point.

Also, I was curious to see if any other INFJs had impulse-control issues, or if that's just me and my ADD. Does anybody else have trouble with impulsive spending/eating/creating/[insert activity here]? If so, how did you control it, or do you just let it loose?
How short my fuse is? It depends! It has been better and I tend to keep the flame low as best as possible these days. It depends on the factors of the situation and outside influences of course. If I've had a bad day, I'm more likely to not hold back.

Impulse is a tough one! I think over time we do better, but we need to recognize it is part of who we are at the same time. I used to buy everything I thought was awesome and I am finally saving some now (age 26). My purchases and taste have become more expensive as my income has increased, but I do my best to not spend like crazy. I can't help it, I think somethings are awesome and I want them! You have to judge by your own morals really. For example... I recently bought a Roomba because I thought it would be practical. I can also be a bit crazy in finding the right product. I spent over $300 trying to find the right computer mouse. It is for my entertainment, so I am okay with it. I have wanted a BMW my whole life and could have got one recently, but I decided a $300 a month payment for an Accord is better than $500 for a 328xi. Purely based on practicality.

Eating... that has been a struggle for me. I take some control. I eat vegan, organic, and avoid soda often. I try to find a balance there too. Some days I want to eat great and others I can bust out the junk food.

Creativity, I try to follow whenever it hits me! I hate when I want to pick up my guitar and I'm stuck at work!

I think overall it's about finding a balance you are okay with. We tend to self discipline which is cool! But we also need to be human and live a little!

As for ADD... I have often thought and been perceived to have ADD or have bipolar qualities. When it comes down to it, we are often misunderstood and none of it is true. I'm not saying you don't have ADD, but it's worth some thought. Maybe you can't focus because you aren't interested? We tend to throw away, reject, and ignore information, people, ideas, activities and so on, that we do not see as useful.
 
It depends on one thing: Who it is happening to.

If someone is bothering me, or making me mad, then I take a long time to get angry. It just festers until it is time for everything to explode.

However, if someone is messing with another person, I get angry pretty fast and have to step in. xD
 
So, I know the rage of an INFJ is all-encompassing, but I was wondering how short of a fuse you usually have. Are you slow to boil or trigger-happy, so to speak?
I can vary though there is something to be said for what I'll show versus what I'm feeling. At times, I can suppress my rage that will come out later.

Also, I was curious to see if any other INFJs had impulse-control issues, or if that's just me and my ADD. Does anybody else have trouble with impulsive spending/eating/creating/[insert activity here]? If so, how did you control it, or do you just let it loose?
For some things I do have impulse control as I do have a bit of a weight issue still.
 
My temper: Actually really bad as a kid, though I'm pretty stoic now. I don't like losing control like that, and I don't like the idea of causing damage to a relationship that's important to me because of something silly I said in the heat of the moment. When it comes out (it does), it's usually with my family. My Mom is a very unhealthy ESFJ and one of the only people in the world who can push me into a screaming rage. That temper came out with my ex a few times. Most people say I'm very, very calm, but the truth is that I just try not to surround myself with people who push my buttons. My friends and I never fight, so of course they've never seen that side of me, and would probably describe me as affable at all times. Usually if someone is behaving obnoxiously enough to push my buttons I realize I'm not compatible with them and just remove them from my life, or limit their interaction with me to something more tolerable.

I have, however, snapped with strangers who've crossed certain moral boundaries. I was visiting my little sis at school and almost got into a fistfight with a guy because he and his stupid frat bro loser friend were walking behind us and one of them used a racial slur. You better believe I turned on that guy and got in his face. It surprises me and others when that happens because it's SO out of character for me, and I'll get so enraged I'll take on anyone no matter what size. My sis looked shocked, like: "What, WHO is this person I've known my whole life?" I stand up for the defenseless, that sort of thing. I called kids out in a grocery store for making fun of a disabled person. And I wasn't nice about it. AT ALL.

If anyone really hurt a loved one I would probably hold a very scary, very long, very unhealthy INFJ grudge/vendetta. I do think I'm capable of vengeance like that. If people hurt me, I tend not to be so scary... I'll probably just doorslam or whatever. Very few people have intentionally hurt me... usually when people are behaving badly they're just a little crazy or have a whole lot of emotional pain or damage, so I tend to kinda "get" that about people and not pick a battle there, although I may end up feeling something akin to contempt or, possibly worse, pure pity for that person. In the romantic context, those emotions can be helpful because they help me move on. However, as I get older I'm trying to extend more olive branches, more love. I think it's working. I don't really feel bitter about much anymore, but I'm reluctant to give second chances until a long period of time has gone by or someone really proves trustworthiness.


I kinda wonder what I would do if someone intentionally hurt me (rape, sexual assault, other assault). I would like to believe of myself that I would be vengeful. I give most people a certain amount of buffer space, but I'm attracted to the idea of poetic justice for the truly evil.

I used to lie in bed and have impersonal revenge fantasies. Like, what if I were a resistance fighter in WWII and I could kill Nazis? How would I do it? That kind of thing...


Impulse-Control: Eh, I'm pretty measured. Or not? I think I like to think of myself that way, but upon thinking, I have had some moments (mostly involving shoes, dresses, or last minute trips to Paris) that come to mind, but I don't overspend for my income and I live well below my means so I can do things like that without it being irresponsible. I have mild ADD too, and I can be a "high stimulation seeker." It's ALWAYS been really tough for me to sit at home and do nothing, which is weird for an introvert. I'd rather be "alone in public" - coffee shop, restaurant, bars, taking a wander around the city... When I was talking to my parents about my childhood when I suspected I might have ADD, they mentioned that to me. For such an introspective, introverted kid I needed almost constant stimulation.

I find I manage stress in more or less healthy ways, but I get obsessive about it. I started seriously working out again in January, but I don't do "half-way" anything. I can be a relentless perfectionist about diet, exercise, etc. I'm not a "45 minutes on the elliptical" kinda girl. I'm more like, "Ok, today let's put together this insane circuit and deadlift as much weight as I possibly can, and do Tabata circuits until I want to puke." I just started CrossFit and that kind of intensity REALLY appeals to me. I sense this becoming a new obsession/addiction. I find I need that kind of intense energy outlet to keep my scattershot brain and emotions even remotely sane. All of this could be categorized either as AMAZING impulse control or total lack thereof. Take your pick. I haven't figured it out myself.
 
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In public, my temper is slow and boiling. In private, it is more spontaneous.

I personally do not have much of an impulse problem. Except perhaps for my anger and consumption junk food. W/ the anger I hold it in, w/ the junk food cravings I usually let them run their course. Neither of which are good coping mechanisms.
 
As for ADD... I have often thought and been perceived to have ADD or have bipolar qualities. When it comes down to it, we are often misunderstood and none of it is true. I'm not saying you don't have ADD, but it's worth some thought. Maybe you can't focus because you aren't interested? We tend to throw away, reject, and ignore information, people, ideas, activities and so on, that we do not see as useful.
Interesting point - when I was researching ADD traits, I noticed that many of them overlapped with INFJ personality traits. So now I wonder if I'm just trying to "cure" my personality. Maybe it would be easier if I could, though.
 
Interesting point - when I was researching ADD traits, I noticed that many of them overlapped with INFJ personality traits. So now I wonder if I'm just trying to "cure" my personality. Maybe it would be easier if I could, though.
Mhmm! I think the same goes for biopolar traits. We are usually calm until enough is enough and we explode. We let issues build up and see if they go away on their own. Then out of nowhere, bam!
 
I have a very long fuse but being a 1, I also have some issues with anger. I am the calmest person you're likely to meet, but I do have a bad tendency to bottle up what I'm feeling – sometimes I have a hard time understanding that I'm even angry. I rarely get truly angry and even when I am, I rarely say anything about it, because my gut tells me it's "not okay" that I'm feeling angry. I'm more likely to address whatever the thing is that's making me angry, directly, than focus on my feelings.

It's something I'm working on. I've been trying to express myself when I'm angry to let others know that I'm angry, and not let it build up to something worse.

I do have my hot buttons, similar to the ones mentioned. I will not tolerate what I see as cruelty. Not against people and not against animals. I also hate it when people try to take advantage of others. No, it's not necessarily my place to step in and solve anything, but what it boils down to is that if I didn't, I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

What's more of an issue for me: I am super sensitive to being around angry people. It does nasty things to me. I'm working on pulling myself out of those situations and letting my Ti take over until it all cools off. I guess it's an active disengagement of my Fe. I use visualizations as a reminder to myself that their anger is NOT my anger.
 
So, I know the rage of an INFJ is all-encompassing, but I was wondering how short of a fuse you usually have. Are you slow to boil or trigger-happy, so to speak?
For example, my temper fluctuates. Some things (disrespect, abuse to animals, anyone insulting/hurting my little brother) will send me into a fury quicker than I even knew possible. Other times it takes a while for my temper to get up to that point.

Also, I was curious to see if any other INFJs had impulse-control issues, or if that's just me and my ADD. Does anybody else have trouble with impulsive spending/eating/creating/[insert activity here]? If so, how did you control it, or do you just let it loose?
For me it depends on the nature of the offense. For most things I have a very long fuse.... until I get to the "I'VE HAD IT!" point and I explode :laughing:. To outward appearances this can often be mistaken for a short fuse because all of the warning signs that lead up to "KABOOM!" were missed/ignored :unsure:.

Like you though, things like disrespect, harm to others will spark my ire rather quickly.


I don't think I have much of an issue with impulsiveness so I can't really contribute much on that. Sorry.
 
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What's more of an issue for me: I am super sensitive to being around angry people. It does nasty things to me. I'm working on pulling myself out of those situations and letting my Ti take over until it all cools off. I guess it's an active disengagement of my Fe. I use visualizations as a reminder to myself that their anger is NOT my anger.
I am this way too. If I hear angry/violent music, I become really short-tempered, and I tend to feed on other people's emotions, no matter what they are. When other people got angry it used to scare me, even if their anger wasn't directed at me. That's lessened as I've gotten older, but I still go out of my way to avoid confrontations (most of the time), and do my best to keep the peace.
 
I used to have a very short temper and periods of intense impulsivity. I worked to rein them in quite a bit, but it wasn't until I learned that I actually had bipolar disorder and started taking medication that I got these problems under control. I still get angry from time to time, but it's not as bad as it used to be.

In a general sense, I get the most angry when people are acting like jerks. If I'm in a mood where my temper is short to begin with, people acting like jerks can really set me off. It's best if I stay away from the roads during such periods, as people's inconsiderate and reckless driving habits really irritate me.
 
I am this way too. If I hear angry/violent music, I become really short-tempered, and I tend to feed on other people's emotions, no matter what they are. When other people got angry it used to scare me, even if their anger wasn't directed at me. That's lessened as I've gotten older, but I still go out of my way to avoid confrontations (most of the time), and do my best to keep the peace.
100% agreed!
 
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I used to have a very short temper and periods of intense impulsivity. I worked to rein them in quite a bit, but it wasn't until I learned that I actually had bipolar disorder and started taking medication that I got these problems under control. I still get angry from time to time, but it's not as bad as it used to be.

In a general sense, I get the most angry when people are acting like jerks. If I'm in a mood where my temper is short to begin with, people acting like jerks can really set me off. It's best if I stay away from the roads during such periods, as people's inconsiderate and reckless driving habits really irritate me.
Oh gosh, I know what you mean about the drivers. I don't like driving in general because people are such rude idiots.
 
With friends, and anyone outside of my parents or boyfriend really, you probably wouldn't know I have a temper. I'm good at keeping those feelings within. If a friend for instance is making me mad I will walk away and not talk to them for awhile. If I think you are beyond hope or you have done something unforgivable I will slam the door on your face. I find it easy to never speak again to people who anger me the most. I despise conflict for the most part. I would rather disappear and not deal with it.

But with my parents or boyfriend... I can sometimes have a hair trigger. With them I don't have any fear. I know they will never walk away or reject me if I tell them how I really feel. (within reason) I have really had to work on controlling my temper with them. As a teenager my mom's quirks (ENFP) used to drive me crazy. I had little patience for her. My boyfriend (ISTP) could also really get me raging. He used to frequently leave our apartment during disagreements. I would almost be seeing red when he would walk away from me in the middle of a conversation. I could have been that girl chasing after him on the street screaming if I had less control!

If anything my boyfriend really inspired me to stay calm and collected when disagreeing with someone I love. No one is perfect, and when someone you love is being flawed it's important to not loose your patience or flip out. Not everyone thinks and feels just like you. Sometimes it drives me insane that my boyfriend needs more time to process events than me. With him I want INSTANT confrontation. But I think growing older has given me a lot more adult patience. There were times in my past where I acted much more like a child than an adult with loved ones.
 
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