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MisterDawin

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Hi Everyone!

I have a general question about INFJs (referring to a few friends and my own brother). I've noticed that some of my closest friends and my brother are awful at replies, sometimes even 10 days after I sent it. I'm almost never mad about it but I want to understand why does it take so long to reply from your perspective. I just want to be empathic because they keep saying sorry but I feel my "no worries" doesn't mean much to them. I do notice that sometimes they respond to other people first before me but I feel that depends on the context and the immediate needs.
 
I almost never reply until I have something to say. If it's a question, I try to give any answer as soon as possible though. It depends so much on what is said.
 
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I don't know if this is a INFJ thing, but it applies to me. I just want to have a real conversation, which would require full attention from both sides. This isn't possible if I'm busy, so I reply whenever I have time.
"I just want to have a real conversation, which would require full attention from both sides." I totally agree with this but I would say more so my side. If I like talking to you, I don't want to rush a message to you. I would reply faster to other conversations were its not that deep or just light chatting. Sure our conversation or the INFJs conversation with the person they're talking awhile to reply back is "light chatting" too but we (or at least I) care and I would rather reply to you when I feel at best and definitely not at my worse. If I'm feeling sad, I would feel I'm throwing all my sadness at you and I would/could be asking you for too much. In a perfect world yeah a friend should want to help their friend and vice versa but I feel I should be able to take care of my own burdens. Ni and Ti are pretty good at solving that and this could lead to me taking even longer to reply and/or sweeping things under the rug. I don't think its a pride thing but I feel if someone else were to take care of my problems I would feel weak and if they were to do it all the time, I would believe I'm overloading them. And I think Ni can how big the problem is.
 
I don't relate as I tend to be very responsive. There are few people who can match my consistency but I don't really expect that from people. I'm pretty patient and understanding about it. I also don't see the point in apologizing if you're just going to keep doing something. I think it's pointless when people do that. I guess they are worried that I will think they don't care if they don't apologize though. However, it really looks foolish whenever the person winds up completely disappearing off the face of the map. Then it's like, all your apologies meant zip. Don't apologize when you're not really sorry. Let your yes be yes and your no be no.

I doubt it's an INFJ thing though. The flakiest people I've encountered are/were INFP and INTP.
 
Most of the time I respond right away to any communication, but every now and then I get a text that i feel uncomfortable responding to, and when that happens, I tend to procrastinate responding. It just takes me a while to figure out what I really want to say. I guess I need to sleep on it and let it stew for a while.

There are times when I just never respond because nothing I could say seems like the right thing. Example, a couple weeks ago a friend asked if I wanted to hang out before school started and I said I was too busy. Then a few days later he asked me the exact same thing again. What I wanted to say was "I told you, I'm too busy." But I felt that would be rude, so I just never responded. Obviously I could have thought up a different response, like just reiterating "I'm too busy." But for some reason I just felt uncomfortable with that and so I didn't respond at all. (Later, we ended up talking about something else and I did tell him I was too busy).

I guess a text message just allows you to not respond right away if you feel uncomfortable, and then if you put it off too long, you just end up not doing it. In person or on the phone, you would just respond, because you didn't have a choice.
It's not like I ever mean to not respond to something-- like it's not like I look at the text and go "pff, not talking to that person" and put my phone down. It's just that sometimes I don't know how to respond and I think about it for a while, but then I forget about it....

Or, sometimes I don't think of a good reply until 2 or 3 days later, and then I get really uncomfortable responding so late, so I end up not responding at all and hope they just forgot about it.
 
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I am the notorious not-texter-backer. All of my friends know it.

For me, part of it is just basic introversion. I dislike having a "have a conversation with me RIGHT NOW" device in my pocket at all times. I also don't like the fact that most text conversations are awkward, don't really go anywhere, and almost never have a conclusive "end." Either you or the other person just... stops... and it's weird. My ENTJ friend and I got along brilliantly in person, but when he moved away and we were forced to communicate over text... oye. He'd hit me with a wall of text and I'd either be paralyzed or have very little to say. This irked him. :frustrating:

Another thing is anxiety/perfectionism -- especially if the text has sensitive content. What do I say? What can I say? I always tell myself that I'll think of it later, then I forget to do it.

I also won't respond if I'm just feeling overloaded/crowded. I feel horrible about it, but I used to make up all kinds of excuses for not responding to my INTJ friend's texts. I just can't do the incessant talking.

Speaking of which, I still haven't responded to the text my mother sent me yesterday. I should probably do that. :dry:
 
In general i respond right away too by text as I don't like people waiting for me but if it's a letter or something with more thought I may leave it off.

With my coworkers or manager, I sometimes leave it off because I'm nervous. I control it now. Kind of like diving in river water that seems cold but will be comfortable later:tongues:
I make myself do it cos I gotta do it.

The truth is also, I would say our method of thinking by intuition is non-linear and we get more and more insights over time. We gain more clarity and then closure. If i give you an answer right away i will be nervous and scattered.
The response after time you get will be the best one.

I recently told my boss actually that I prefer written communication (it depends) as I can think that way and it would help me get the scope of what I truly want to say. We sometimes have reviews and meetings that aren't announced ahead of time and people just think I have no clue or nothing to share.
 
Nvm. Hysteria. Not a fan of texts unless short and to the point. All else likely to open up a can of worms for me, which I will peek at and then quickly shut again until strength returns and revulsion subsides. No fault of the text sender of course. There is clearly some faulty connection in my circuitry.
 
"I take six months to return a phone call" (Buddy Cole)

I don't want to have to be available to other people all the time, maybe it's an enneagram 5 thing but I find it emotionally exhausting. I try to be present with others when I'm physically with them, but I'm just not willing to let that creep over into the rest of my life simply because technology has made it possible.

I actually do try to be prompt with people, but I'll never make any promises to that effect.
 
I take forever when I have nothing to say and have to formulate an answer that makes it "look" like I had something to say. Or when I have an answer that's complicated or not "politically correct" and have to distill it down. Something that happens on here too with PMs and the like.
 
I usually reply within an hour. Sometimes if I'm not fucked I'll wait a couple of days, but that's usually only for online interactions with people who I don't actually know in person, so my lateness shouldn't matter at all. It's not like they're trying to meet up with me and I'm leaving them hanging, after all.

Sometimes I deliberately hold back from instantly replying because I don't want that person to suspect that talking with them is the most exciting thing in my life and what I look forward to the most! You have to be a little suave like that, or they'll think you're too into them
 
This thread hits home, haha. As it stands, right now there's 3 people awaiting a response from me via PM, right here on PerC.
They've been waiting for days, one of them, almost a week.

I prefer to respond when I have enough time to give it my full attention, I don't like trying to quickly respond while I'm busy doing other things etc, and I'm very busy at the moment.

The one that has been waiting a week requires a fair amount of time to be spent - time I am more than happy to spend, it's just being broken up over the days, I'm almost there though, so I'll have that one done real soon.


Another thing is I can be pretty narrow-sighted - is this even a phrase/term?
What I mean by it is if I'm focused on something, I ignore everything else and will get around to it whenever I get around to it - which might mean a friend has to wait a week for a reply on Facebook, because I've been focusing on a book or something in my spare time.

I'd like to add that sometimes, I simply don't think a response is necessary - this pisses people off in real life, because it's actually how I communicate with people in conversation as well, this expectation I have of people to just magically pick up what I'm thinking, is something that isn't restricted purely to text messages etc.

For example my wife might ask me to do something - I'll just get up and do it, or I might think to myself I'll do it later - either way, there's no "real world" response. She needs to actually hear me, for real, say "ok" or "I'll do it later" etc - I try to work on this but I almost don't see the point.
I prefer to not voice my thoughts. Sounds weird.

Same deal with text messages, someone tells me "I'm going to hit Zaraffas for a coffee this arvo, you in?" - well, I don't see a need to respond. They will be there regardless. I already know they finish work at 4pm so they'll be there at about 4:15pm or so.
I just think, if they're going to be there, well I'll see them there if they're going.

Why would I need to respond to that? Even though it's a direct question, I don't actually feel like it requires a response.

I expect this same kind of psychic magic bullshit from other people as well - I'll ask* someone to do something, and I'll just expect it done, it surprises me more often than it should, when they react and tell me "alright" or something.
I don't need that. Just do what I said. I don't need confirmation you heard me. I know you heard me. Just do it.
If it's not done immediately, I just assume it'll be done later. I don't need anyone respond to me.

In writing this, I'm beginning to understand exactly how I piss so many people off.

Something to work on!


* - by ask, I mean tell.
 
I do think most INFJs talk about being guilty of this. I pretty much agree with all of the responses so far.

I personally hate text messages - even messages on PerC. Because I can't see anyone I'm talking to, it gives me far less incentive to sit by my phone and patiently wait for every and any message.

When I was in major Fe mode at high-school, I replied lightening quick to everything and it was absolutely exhausting. I did it for the benefit of others, not because I cared about the conversations or really wanted to. The older I got, the more I reverted to my natural - which isn't texting or communicating much.

I can go without replying to people for months - if I take a quick look of my phone, there are plenty of people whose messages I'm not replying to yet. For a variety of reasons.

I never used to be so bad but I guess I'm fed up with other people and their lack of reliability. These are some of the same people I knew when I was pretty young who aren't reliable - you text them, they don't reply, you see them in person months later and they acknowledge that they saw it but said nothing even though they're now asking to see more of you. :frustrating: Absolutely frickin' bizarre.

It wasn't a conscious, "You used to make me wait so now I'm doing it you" moreso, I just see these people who never text me back, within what I consider a reasonable amount of time, worth me rushing to text back. Unless it's my mother really, I make everyone else wait - they can take it or leave it and they all know about my phone and texting habits. I want to take my time. If I have nothing to say to you, I'm not going to text you the minute I have your message.

The same goes for in person. If you ask me question in person and I don't have an answer yet - I'll let you know and I'll answer you later.

I wouldn't read too far into INFJs not texting back quickly - as annoying as it is.

As @zosio913 said, feeling like you need to reply NOW, really puts me off. It's a lot easier to say you're not ready to answer or you don't have an answer in person. By text it is rather awkward to try and text that you don't have anything to say - you may as well just not say anything. I can think of 80 ways to text you back and 2,000 ways it might be received (Ni-Fe). The anxiety I often feel in texting back makes me not want to.

I prefer phone calls - that being said, I rarely pick up the phone either :confused:

All of my friends know this. Some of them have gotten the hint and don't call me often (and complain they would if I picked up) but many still do call me but communicate their annoyance. Phone calls send my anxiety through the roof if on rare occasions I am by my phone when it rings - so you likely won't get me picking up unless you text first. It is what it is. I keep my phone on silent almost permanently.

Now that I think about it, having loads of private messages and quotes to reply to also puts me off replying even here. If it is 'work' I will always prioritise it and not complain. If it is leisure, like this is supposed to be, it's hard for me. I think most people who PM me here know I take a while to reply and with quotes, nowadays I am selective with those I reply to at all or I just miss them completely and only see them months later :crying:
 
Unless it's urgent, work, confirming a date/meeting, close family members or an S/O, I rarely text back immediately for some of the following reasons:

- Depending on what is happening around me and the nature of the message, I might need some time to formulate a good response
- If it's a request that I can fulfill, I would rather fulfill it first then text back saying that it's done
- I'm honestly never in the mood for small talk via text, haha. I would rather talk or hang out.
 
I can't relate to this because I'm usually quite responsive, even in group chats. Same goes to my INFJ friend.

The only time I don't respond to messages is if I'm trying to distant a friend or if I don't know what they're talking about. Even then, I would ask but there're people I won't bother. Another scenario is I'm preoccupied, can't respond promptly, and subsequently forget.

I don't think INFJs have a text issue.. phone calls issues maybe... I sometimes ignore calls because I don't feel like talking.
 
I respond most of the time, and sometimes regretting it later because I said something irrelevant... Unless it's a phone call, I usually don't call back..
 
It's a mixed bag for me. Where practical necessity is concerned, granted I've seen the message, I will promptly respond. But, like some of you, I really resent smartphones in general, and would much rather just talk. I went for several months last year where I kept the phone on airplane mode 23.75 hours a day... a check in or two, or when I had to specifically deal with some sort of plan-making. And now the only time it's consistently in reach is when I'm in my bedroom.

I'd been spending some time with this girl recently & the couple days after we'd first gotten together she was sending me the smalltalk texts galore. I obliged as well as I could at first because she'd..... charmed me in general. But then I just couldn't keep up and my 30 minute response time dropped to about 6 hours, and she started giving blunt, cold responses. Noticing that I told her about my phone use dynamic, and that it didn't reflect my interest in her. She was understanding, but things have been a bit different since.

These are interesting times. The only upside to texting besides the sometime convenient nature of it (still, quick phone calls aren't tough), is when you can use the ambiguity of it in a fun way. Or say things you might not have the gaul to say otherwise. But that's rare.
 
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