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So, I don't believe that the MBTI are exact stereotypes for every type of personal obviously, however it is cool to see when you are pretty sure a fictional character in a book or movie is your same type, and they do things that you yourself do.

For example, I've been watching the BBC version of Sherlock (who is said by most people to be INTJ almost definitely, or possibly INTP) recently, and in the most recent episode Sherlock throughout the episode is supposably struggling with losing his best friend, John Watson, who is getting married that day. Everyone keeps try to bring it up and talk to him about it, but he keeps shrugging it off like he doesn't understand nor care. Then in the very closing scene, during the wedding dance, everyone has a partner or group other than Sherlock, and you can see the sadness in his eyes, yet he hides it from his face from the few people that look at him as he leaves, alone, and early. Abandoning the party. I personally have found me in that exact, or very similar, situations very often, and I found it quite intriguing. I am well known among my close friends to bail on parties or large social events without them noticing (because large groups honestly just makes me uncomfortable).

Also, I find myself relating quite often to when Sherlock starts pointing out a ton of his observations to explain how he knows something haha. Clearly I don't claim to be as smart as fictional Sherlock, and there are a lot of times when I completely miss the obvious, but I have had a lot of 'Sherlock' moments where I point out past memories/experiences, peoples body language, or other small things in the environment that I noticed to explain how I knew something, or how I solved a certain problem.

So, I guess I'm just wondering how you guys (INTJ or any type really) feel when you notice fictional characters displaying your type, or any MBTI's stereotype, and how you relate to that.
 
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Acataleptic said:
While I like Sherlock, I always found him much too volatile.

I find Ivan Karamazov in Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov quite relatable.
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I agree in the he is much too volatile, thats why I say only some parts to I feel I actually relate to.
 
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I don't see myself related to Sherlock.
He's interesting and clever and doesn't care what people say - but he's not organized, doesn't have a routine, he's a terrible talker.
And he likes being and sharing with his partner who's I don't remember his name... (The doctor)
He hates it when he has nothing to do or nobody to talk to. Start shooting just like that ("I'm bored") is nothing like me. I hate to destroy things. And I would be glad to be alone and just think how to do something without waiting to the world to make it's move.

Anyway, a character some folks related to me is Reymond Reddington from The Blacklist. (He's definitely an INTJ as far as I can see it)
We have more things in common than I have with Sherlock, although I kinda mustn't admit that. But I really enjoyed this series and the character, so ig it's fun when u feel related to a fictional character. I also felt related to Ford from Westworld.
 
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I do like a lot of INTJ-esque characters, but I don't really feel like (1) most characters fit a literal INTJ outlook altogether, and (2) that most INTJ-esque characters are supposed to be 'smart/intelligent' but the general movie/TV idea of intelligence is not proper. I don't really feel like movies/TV-shows actually properly portray intelligence. Quite a bit of things occur in a sort of contrived way, which does not mimic what human beings in real life tend to have to offer. I feel like 'fictional' INTJ-esque individuals tend to have really out-of-proportion so-called 'intelligence' almost like a superpower.

For example, I've felt somewhat relatable to Ender (Ender's game the first book anyway) when I was a young teen; and despite him being a well written (probably one of the best?) character I just can't see anyone relating to that portrayal of intelligence well. Also Dexter (in the books) also made me feel somewhat relatable, but once again, perhaps an out-of-proportion portrayal of 'intelligence'. Then we have a few other instances of 'Smart' characters that have a super-power kind of intelligence and hardly any real flaws that have to do with it/actually affect the character negatively like the aforementioned Sherlock (depending on the TV characterization of course). Of course I don't really feel akin to Sherlock at all, but that's beside the point.

Now that I'm an adult I rarely feel any kind of real connection to characters. Sure, there are characters that I -adore- but not any that really strike me as, 'Woah, that's me!' like things sometimes did when I was a child/teen. I think it is because I've realized that yeah, I'm incredibly witty! But just because you are smart/intelligent/witty doesn't mean that you're gonna be a superhero, have a special life, be meant to do something awesome, or be better than anyone else.

When I was young; I definitely had that 'superiority complex' that sometimes comes with immature people that have a bit of intelligence above the regular people around them. Now I've just realized that life is a WILD ride, and intelligence doesn't necessarily give you a leg-up when you've been dealt shit cards. I will admit, however, that I wish that it did!
 
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I do not much relate to the Holmes-specimen [he is entirely too detailed / thorough] - in a paradoxical sense, I would be much lazier to extend that deeply into analysis [and fixate on such keen cues]; while simultaneously being [more productive] than him when lingering on the path of uncertainties.

Sherlock shutsdown in (uncertainty), sinks into a whole (until the puzzle fits) - I simply collect pieces on the move; if not pose another alternative.

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In reality, Holmes will be frustrated with my reluctance to recognize a (missing piece, mistake or knowledge gap) in the picture as a barrier, a limit, or stopping point that need(s) my attention. He will be bothered with the confidence I acquire from simple assumptiveness - while he lacks a more foundational-ground to proceed, he will lock-up intellectually in a reflexive-defense due to his inabilities to manipulate blindspots (&) pose a better counter-argument other than, 'let me think about this'; he will be repulsed by my submission to "good enough," and perhaps refer to me even, as illogical, a confident fool, or even too trusting when it comes to some decision-making. He will be vexed with my impatience; (&) overwhelmed by my repetitive proposals to try something else; alter the plan - or develop another, less time-consuming [method]. He will roll his eyes at my vaguesness; and dismiss many of my reasonable contributions / insights with skepticism. He will be stubborn to admit his fault when they come true; (&) when I out-argue him with simply better manipulation of data.

On the other hand, Holmes will be advantaged over me in a sense he will [crush] my logic in many areas - by the sheer means of accuracy, because he decided to submit to narrowing inner-structures (A - B - C (re: consistencies) - whether self-defeatist, or not) - mathematical preferences, where he will always stand superior (if the steps match) - (&) his unstable P skating over my rationality and/or reasonability (&) humoring himself at how unnecessary my conforming J-ness is when it comes to being right. On the other hand; my tetirary (Fi) may unrelentless grunt - and deem his approach excessively impractical/unnecessary to get to the bottom of things. Fair enough.


Where I do relate to him; perhaps, is in usage of (Ti) in general - however, not as heavily, and indeed, the brink of spontaneous (impulsive-action) he seems to have once he is sure enough in his knowledge.

Holmes is a (Ti)-dom.

Anyhow, I do not have many opinion(s) on fictional INTJ-specimens; although the ones I have come across (seem to have had), the general idea - while minor distinction(s) exist. I have found myself relating to a few types on various degrees, even the ENTP / ESTP - [except perhaps the ESFJ, ESTJ and ENFJ], but they seem to have notable qualities.
 
#11 ·
Haven't seen an episode of Sherlock, so I don't have an answer for that.

I typically gravitate towards characters that could fit INTJ stereotypes. Fortunately [or unfortunately], fictional INTJ-like characters are more interesting and "well-rounded" than the real deal.

Atticus Finch, Dumbledore [?] and Gandalf have been favorites for a long time.
 
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Starlorn said:
Dumbledore? An INTJ? I never really thought about that. Now Snape, Snape reminds me of INTJs (not an Insult, I really like Snape).


EDIT: His obvious tertiary Fi is what really cements him being an INTJ for me.
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Yeah, Snape is an obvious one, but Dumbledore has long been thought to be as well, possibly on the border of FJ. While he was largely nice about it, he was pretty Machiavellian with regard to maneuvering Harry's life path in order to get what needed to be done. JKR lifted the veil on his manipulative ways by book 5 and the reader received more information about his long-term planning via his brother.

Snape was cool, but he reminded me of Naraku [from Inuyasha] too much in that they were both hung up on a girl that wouldn't touch them with a 2 ft pole. It was embarrassing reading about their unrequited loves lol
 
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ponpiri said:
Yeah, Snape is an obvious one, but Dumbledore has long been thought to be as well, possibly on the border of FJ. While he was largely nice about it, he was pretty Machiavellian with regard to maneuvering Harry's life path in order to get what needed to be done. JKR lifted the veil on his manipulative ways by book 5 and the reader received more information about his long-term planning via his brother.

Snape was cool, but he reminded me of Naraku [from Inuyasha] too much in that they were both hung up on a girl that wouldn't touch them with a 2 ft pole. It was embarrassing reading about their unrequited loves lol
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Elsewhere folks say that Snape might be anything from an INFP to a ISTP. It makes me do this number:

As for Dumbledore, now that I think back on his younger years I figure you're right (especially with the borderline consideration there). He did have that rather markedly heel-turn kind of past! I also forget that he's over a hundred years old, so he has had all that time to become a more mature version of himself; which could explain the things that didn't feel like they added up about him possibly being an INTJ.

For me, it's easier for me to be able to pick out INTJ's by pointing out the Te and then the tertiary-Fi, so if the tertiary-Fi isn't extremely focused on I tend to be a little less accurate when grasping typing.



EDIT: Ohoh, but Dumbledore had a failed love too; Grindelwald, if I remember right.
 
#16 ·
BBC Sherlock is not an INTJ lol.

But I do get relating to some INTJ characters, for better or for worse.

I have found myself relating to Michael Corleone, Thomas Shelby, Lelouch vi Britannia, Seto Kaiba, Batman, Captain Flint etc. on some level, flaws and all.
 
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Numinosity said:
I just want to confirm (since it can really be either one), do you relate to a) His deductive abilities or b) His propensity for crouching on the floor, wearing pajamas and playing with toys all day? :ninja:
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It would seem that I can relate to bits of both. And they aren't wearing pajamas and playing with toys all day as you put it. Thank you for implying I was a child, it is much appreciated (!).
 
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