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Sandra Maitri: The Spiritual Dimensions of the Enneagram

Instincts

Sexual 9: Union

Sexual Nines are driven by a desire for the love of another and for total union, which appears to them as the key to their happiness. Total merging with another is seen by Sexual Nines to be what they need to be whole. They tend to merge easily with others, losing touch with themselves in the process. The substitution of another for what they really need to merge with - their essential nature - is the heart of a Sexual Nine's passion of laziness. Since this is the archetype of all the sexual types, this attempt to fill the hole left by loss of contact with Being with the love of another is shared by all of the subtypes that follow.


Social 9: Participation
Social Nines have a drive to belong, lacking the certainty that they actually do. They lack a sense of ease in social situations, because of their sensitivity to whether they are really welcome or not. They often feel that they don't know how to become part of the group, and, rather than being themselves, they try to fit n by emulating socially acceptable forms of behavior and communication. Inevitably this leaves them feeling that they are not really making contact, and so reinforces their sense of being left out. This attempt to participate through social conventions is how the passion of laziness manifests here, and in their resulting tendency to make superficial contact with others.


Self-preservation Nine: Appetite
The focus for a Self-preservation Nine is on satisfying his appetites and hungers. His laziness, in the sense that we have defined it as the passion, manifests here in the substitution of the nonessential satisfactions for those that he really needs. At the deepest level, this shows up in substituting material gratifications for those that are really spiritual. An example on a more superficial level of this substitution of the nonessential would be eating a chocolate bar when what he really needs is a nourishing meal. Also, as the word appetite suggests, Self-preservation Nines tend to overindulge, ingesting and acquiring far more than they actually need out of insecurity about receiving sustenance.


The Soul-child of Enneatype Nine (Point Three)
The heart point of Enneatype Nine is Point Three, so a Nine's soul child first makes her appearance in a tendency to deceive and lie in order to present to another what will get approval. Like a little child who takes a cookie when mommy has told her not to, or plays hooky from school pretending to be sick, a Nine's soul child pleads that she did not do it and that she really does have an upset stomach. Beyond the passion of lying, within every Nine is a young place that wants to be seen, wants to shine, and wants to be the center of attention. So there is a little show-off, wanting to do her dance and be applauded. Behind a Nine's self-abnegating tendency lies a drivenness and often a ruthlessness about succeeding - usually well hidden and pushed out of consciousness. Nines are often afraid of appearing too pushy and taking up too much space, which is the shadow of their soul child falling across their consciousness. The focus on doing underlies a Nine's inertia, and often Nines are afraid that if they start an activity, they will become driven and not be able to stop.

As a Nine allows herself to get in touch with this structure inside and its qualities, she will progressively experience herself as a more complete person. Exhibitionist tendencies will transform into a sincere recognition of her personhood. She will see that being a person n her own right was not supported during her childhood, and so she became accommodating and self-absenting in order to get approval. Reclaiming herself as personally valuable and lovable will lead her toward the realization of herself as a personal embodiment of Being, the Pearl Beyond Price, a radiant and luminous presence independent from the constraints of her conditioning. She will gradually become free of any self-image or mental construct defining who she is, and be able to contact and interact in the world liberated from the sleep of the personality.


The Idealized Aspect

Enneatype Nine: Living Daylight
Living Daylight is the experience of everything in the universe being made of love. It is the recognition of Being as what sustains and supports all of manifestation, and that our nature is inseparable from It. It gives us the sense of being held by a warm and benevolent presence and connects us with the goodness of life and of ourselves. Nines believe that these qualities are missing and are what they need. So they want to be included, noticed, loved, and appreciated by others, and want to contact the goodness of life and feel that they are included in its bounty. They fade into the background, harmonizing with others and rarely asserting themselves. They avoid conflict and try to keep things pleasant and comfortable both for themselves and others. Their focus is outward, on others and on the events in their lives. They are sensitive and open to the perspectives and points of view of others, and so mediate well. At the same time, they have difficulty determining what they think, feel, and believe. They tend to have a fuzzy, amorphous, or slightly out-of-focus feeling about them.


The Wings of Enneatype Nine
With Ego-Revenge (Eight) as one wing and Ego-Resentment (One) as the other, a Nine is caught between the bad boy of the enneagram on one side and the good boy on the other. Strong instinctual drives arise at Point Eight and meet strong superego prohibitions at Point One. Of necessity, what results is a deadening of impulse and stalling of movement. These are very strong pulls in different directions - what often feels like a hopeless conflict - so Enneatype Nine goes numb to his inner life and becomes outer rather than inner directed. Because of the profound and mostly unconscious inner discord, Nines set about trying to make and keep things harmonious, avoiding conflicts as much as possible.
 
This was an interesting alternative take. The soul child concept is something Ive never heard before. Could someone explain that concept to me more? (not just for 9s, but in general). It does make sense though, the only time I find myself lying is for the purpose of appeasing people and every once in a while to save face. It sounded quite familiar.
 
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This was an interesting alternative take. The soul child concept is something Ive never heard before. Could someone explain that concept to me more? (not just for 9s, but in general). It does make sense though, the only time I find myself lying is for the purpose of appeasing people and every once in a while to save face. It sounded quite familiar.
http://personalitycafe.com/enneagra...ersonality-theory-forum/151552-excerpts-spiritual-dimensions-sandra-maitri.html

^ I wrote down Maitri's explanation there. Her explanation, however, was about 10-15 pages long, so I typed out different parts I thought were relevant and would explain the whole thing. Maybe one day I'll commit to typing out that whole thing because I do feel it's very relevant; but the explanation there should suffice at least to get you oriented.
 
http://personalitycafe.com/enneagra...ersonality-theory-forum/151552-excerpts-spiritual-dimensions-sandra-maitri.html

^ I wrote down Maitri's explanation there. Her explanation, however, was about 10-15 pages long, so I typed out different parts I thought were relevant and would explain the whole thing. Maybe one day I'll commit to typing out that whole thing because I do feel it's very relevant; but the explanation there should suffice at least to get you oriented.
Wow that was a lot of work to type all that out. Thank you, it makes a little more sense now, the summary really just seems to describe the pain of the integration process in a different way. I had just realized in another thread how ironic it is that integrating is suppose to be the thing to make us the happiest, but the actual feeling of integrating is so painful due to the opposite tension of our integration type vs. our core type. I kind of like the child way of thinking about it more though.
 
Some of it sounds right, but then...

Reclaiming herself as personally valuable and lovable will lead her toward the realization of herself as a personal embodiment of Being, the Pearl Beyond Price, a radiant and luminous presence independent from the constraints of her conditioning.

yeah, OK... whatever.


:dry:


-ZDD
 
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Wow that was a lot of work to type all that out.
Lol I did it all in one day - I swear I was more exhausted than if I'd spent 4 hours at the gym =P

Thank you, it makes a little more sense now, the summary really just seems to describe the pain of the integration process in a different way. I had just realized in another thread how ironic it is that integrating is suppose to be the thing to make us the happiest, but the actual feeling of integrating is so painful due to the opposite tension of our integration type vs. our core type. I kind of like the child way of thinking about it more though.
That is so true. =( And yeah, soul-child gives it a more 'holistic' feel; shows how it's really about coming to terms with a deeper part of you, not just becoming some abstract 'other type behavior' that you can access when you're healthy.
 
Thank you so much for this! The more I read about E-type 9, the more strongly I am convinced I'm a 9. Of course I can somewhat relate to pretty much any personality type description (how typical of a 9 :tongue:) but when I read about type 9, it's like seeing all the little corners of my psyche, even the darkest and hidden ones, illuminated and brought to daylight. It's eerie. It's happened with NO other type descriptions but 9.

The heart point of Enneatype Nine is Point Three, so a Nine's soul child first makes her appearance in a tendency to deceive and lie in order to present to another what will get approval. Like a little child who takes a cookie when mommy has told her not to, or plays hooky from school pretending to be sick, a Nine's soul child pleads that she did not do it and that she really does have an upset stomach. Beyond the passion of lying, within every Nine is a young place that wants to be seen, wants to shine, and wants to be the center of attention. So there is a little show-off, wanting to do her dance and be applauded. Behind a Nine's self-abnegating tendency lies a drivenness and often a ruthlessness about succeeding - usually well hidden and pushed out of consciousness.
This is so very very true! The parts I bolded are especially accurate. That's how I've been for all my life! When I was young, I felt I could never be accepted for who I am, so I forgot myself, tried to figure out how others wanted me to be, and did my best to appear as such. I didn't care if it meant lying or deceiving, and I didn't care about others' feelings, I only cared about what they thought about me.

I have always been pretty ambitious, though, so I have always been well aware of my desire to succeed and get the applauds. While I've been trying to brainwash myself into thinking I don't really care about the spotlight, a part of me has always been more or less conscious about my desire for the exact opposite. Being praised and getting the applauds has always felt so good I haven't been able to ignore it!

As a Nine allows herself to get in touch with this structure inside and its qualities, she will progressively experience herself as a more complete person. Exhibitionist tendencies will transform into a sincere recognition of her personhood. She will see that being a person in her own right was not supported during her childhood, and so she became accommodating and self-absenting in order to get approval. Reclaiming herself as personally valuable and lovable will lead her toward the realization of herself as a personal embodiment of Being, the Pearl Beyond Price, a radiant and luminous presence independent from the constraints of her conditioning.
I'm in the middle of a 30's crisis right now, and this is exactly the process I've been going through for the last year or so. The bolded text accurately describes my feelings in childhood, and I am now actively trying to let go of it, because I've realized so many of my personal weaknesses can be traced back to that one single trait.

I've also begun to wonder who I actually am. Instead of worrying about appearing "perfect" in the eyes of every person I encounter, I've been trying to actively be myself, because I've learned that people actually want to connect with the "real" me, not with the empty social mask I've been presenting to people. I'm trying to be present in the moment. It's hard but it also feels surprisingly liberating. I've also learned that people actually like me more because of it and I've actually become a more interesting person! I still worry about how I appear to other people, but I have learned that I don't have to keep putting on a dead social mask, I can simply let my inner light shine!

With Ego-Revenge (Eight) as one wing and Ego-Resentment (One) as the other, a Nine is caught between the bad boy of the enneagram on one side and the good boy on the other. Strong instinctual drives arise at Point Eight and meet strong superego prohibitions at Point One. Of necessity, what results is a deadening of impulse and stalling of movement. These are very strong pulls in different directions - what often feels like a hopeless conflict - so Enneatype Nine goes numb to his inner life and becomes outer rather than inner directed.
OMG! This is exactly what I told my therapist a week ago!!! I feel there's a tug-of-war going inside my psyche; it's like there are two conflicting parts of myself: one wants to be the "good girl" who succeeds by society's standards, has a respectable career, nice house, good middle-class life; the other wants to be a hippy, anarchist, rebel, artist, who questions the society's traditional values and goes down her own path.


Again, thank you for typing that post. It didn't only describe my personality very accurately, but I also recognized some points that I have recently become aware of myself. These points, once recognized, are keys to personal development... well, for me at least.
 
I relate to the lying to save face part, but doesn't everyone do that? It's not like it's just Nines, right?
To 'save face' or 'get approval'? The latter is a very 3ish thing imo. To present things in the best light so others approve, typically relevant when the truth would cause you to look bad, but not exclusively.

Saving face can simply be about the latter; not looking bad because you screwed up.

Everyone lies, and for different reasons, some are not concerned with getting approval or even saving face, it can be about power or control, or a manipulation attempt and so on. The context presented is relevant.

I personally don't relate to the soul child stuff though, it hints towards some relevant things but doesn't gel.
 
Beyond the passion of lying, within every Nine is a young place that wants to be seen, wants to shine, and wants to be the center of attention. So there is a little show-off, wanting to do her dance and be applauded
As a child, I recall occasionally not really feeling so significant whether it was in class nor at home since I was majorly shy and quiet, despite my talent in art. But then there were times where I noticed that I felt a great feeling of satisfaction when I could impress others with some juggling tricks that I practiced and this subtle unknown feeling re-emerged 8-10 years after when I taught myself to dance. Funny enough, this is the most fulfilling feeling I have experienced!

After learning about the enneagram, I must say I am truly grateful for my tritype- having the 4 and 7 really allows my 9 to 'pop out' a bit more. The 1 wing helped me to remain disciplined and principled when it came to mastery.
 
The Soul-child of Enneatype Nine (Point Three)

"The heart point of Enneatype Nine is Point Three, so a Nine's soul child first makes her appearance in a tendency to deceive and lie in order to present to another what will get approval. Like a little child who takes a cookie when mommy has told her not to, or plays hooky from school pretending to be sick, a Nine's soul child pleads that she did not do it and that she really does have an upset stomach."

I totally have to disagree with this one because I was very much an honest child, and I avoided doing things that will get me into trouble and cause me to be in a distressful situation. I kept the peace and was not stupid enough to try this crap on my Type 8 mother!!

"Beyond the passion of lying, within every Nine is a young place that wants to be seen, wants to shine, and wants to be the center of attention. So there is a little show-off, wanting to do her dance and be applauded."

Yea, I did this. I also did this to keep people happy as well. I am okay when everybody else is okay, which is what Riso-Hudson says about Nines, which is true of me. Sometimes, I was the little entertainer, which made me feel like I mattered in a sense.

"Behind a Nine's self-abnegating tendency lies a drivenness and often a ruthlessness about succeeding - usually well hidden and pushed out of consciousness."

Hahahaha! What the hell? I can't relate to this one at all! I was always more focused on others. The only thing that may come remotely close is that I refuse to do art projects that were too simple for me, so I always took it to my level of creativity in elementary school but there never were anything about being ruthless. I always cared about others...to the distress of my mother.

"Nines are often afraid of appearing too pushy and taking up too much space, which is the shadow of their soul child falling across their consciousness. The focus on doing underlies a Nine's inertia, and often Nines are afraid that if they start an activity, they will become driven and not be able to stop."

I wasn't afraid to start of an activity. So what if I become driven and unable to stop? That was part of the joys of my childhood to start my art projects and stayed up until I got them done. I enjoyed that aspect of my childhood quite a bit. I loved what I was doing. I only have inertia when I am not doing what gives me passion.

"As a Nine allows herself to get in touch with this structure inside and its qualities, she will progressively experience herself as a more complete person. Exhibitionist tendencies will transform into a sincere recognition of her personhood. She will see that being a person n her own right was not supported during her childhood, and so she became accommodating and self-absenting in order to get approval."

I got in touch who I really am when I stopped keeping the peace at all costs (at my expense). I used to be accommodating and self-absenting in order to get approval (This is true) and to avoid conflicts with the aggressive types in my family and peers at school. It is stressful dealing with those people. I try to avoid them whenever I could get away with it. :)

"Reclaiming herself as personally valuable and lovable will lead her toward the realization of herself as a personal embodiment of Being, the Pearl Beyond Price, a radiant and luminous presence independent from the constraints of her conditioning. She will gradually become free of any self-image or mental construct defining who she is, and be able to contact and interact in the world liberated from the sleep of the personality."

Following the recommendation for personal growth for Nines help made this happened. I continue to grow beyond those recommendations and always strive for self-improvement and personal growth...at my own pace, off and on. I feel this way except in one area...employment because I have no job. Usually, this description would describe me. I can still be entertaining and funny when I feel like it or in the mood, but it is done out of a sense of fun, not fear of conflicts and trying to keep the peace at all cost!! If they are not okay, that is their choice not to be okay and not responsibility to make everybody happy and nice.

I am thinking this generalized post have mixed the instinctual variants/ subtypes together. And she is probably also writing from her instinctual perceptions as well. All that needs to be taken in consideration when we read these things. Some applied to me and some did not. I think this may be true of most of us Nines if not all.
 
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