What enneagram type do you associate with each mbti type?

cudibloop · Oct 10, 2013

INFP: 4w5 Sp/Sx

ENFP: 7w6 So/Sx

INFJ: 9w1 So/Sp

ENFJ: 2w3 So/Sx

INTP: 5w6 Sp/So

ENTP: 6w7 So/Sp or 7w8 Sx/So

INTJ: 5w4 Sp/Sx

ENTJ: 8w7 Sp/Sx

ISTP: 9w8 Sx/Sp

ESTP: 8w7 Sx/So

ISFP: 9w8 or 6w7 Sx/Sp

ESFP: 7w6 Sx/So

ISTJ: 1w9 Sp/Sx

ESTJ: 6w5 So/Sp

ISFJ: 9w1 Sp/So

ESFJ: 2w3 So/Sp

Entropic · Oct 11, 2013

None.

DiamondDays · Oct 11, 2013

There you go

nickvold · Oct 14, 2013

As this thread isn't scientific in nature, I'm just gonna add what I personally think of...

Edit: oh, lol screwed that up. Trying again:

INTJ: 5w6
INTP: 5w4
INFJ: 4w5
INFP: 4w3

ENTJ: 8
ENTP: 7
ENFJ: 3w2
ENFP: 7

ISTJ: 1w2
ISTP: 6w7
ISFJ: 9w1
ISFP: 4w3

ESTJ: 8w9
ESTP: 8w7
ESFJ: 3w2
ESFP: 7

Father of Dragons · Oct 15, 2013

DiamondDays said:
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There you go

I'm suprised what a big difference the wing makes, especially for 9w8 vs 9w1. My combination is apparently very rare.

Swordsman of Mana · Oct 22, 2013

@cudibloop
I agree with most of yours

INFP: 6w7 Sp/Sx or Sx/Sp
ENFP: 7w6/6w7 So/Sx
INFJ: 9w1 ??/??
ENFJ: 2w3 So/Sx
INTP: 5w6 So/Sp
ENTP: 7w6/3w2 So/Sp
INTJ: 5w6 Sp/Sx
ENTJ: 8w7 Sp/So
ISTP: 9w8 Sx/Sp
ESTP: 7w8 Sx/So or So/Sp
ISFP: 9w8 or 6w7 Sx/Sp
ESFP: 7w6 or 7w8 Sx/So
ISTJ: 1w9 Sp/So or Sp/Sx
ESTJ: 1w9 Sp/So
ISFJ: 9w1 Sp/So
ESFJ: 2w3 So/Sp

Inveniet · Oct 26, 2013

Hmm like why would one type of core fear be more prevalent in one Jungian type than another?

There is no clean was to do this, other than to mercylessly torture stereotypes.
It is like going trough the graveyard, digging up the corpses and switching the parts around.
Nomatter how you do it, it will be tasteless and meaningless.

SuperSoaker · Oct 28, 2013

hornet said:
Hmm like why would one type of core fear be more prevalent in one Jungian type than another?

There is no clean was to do this, other than to mercylessly torture stereotypes.
It is like going trough the graveyard, digging up the corpses and switching the parts around.
Nomatter how you do it, it will be tasteless and meaningless.

What do you mean by that? I can see why there's a correlation between mbti and enneagram in the same way as personality disorders correlates to mbti.

Inveniet · Oct 28, 2013

SuperSoaker said:
What do you mean by that? I can see why there's a correlation between mbti and enneagram in the same way as personality disorders correlates to mbti.

Well I can't see it...
So now what?

SuperSoaker · Oct 28, 2013

hornet said:
Well I can't see it...
So now what?

Now you miss out on all the treats

d e c a d e n t · Oct 28, 2013

I don't know. I guess I have certain associations like Pe = type 7, but I prefer to think how different combinations can manifest than which combinations are more likely.

SuperSoaker · Oct 28, 2013

I don't think I would trust neither MBTI nor enneagram if there wasn't a correlation.

A type 5 Fe dom or a type 2 Ti dom just wouldn't make sense to me.

Krelian91 · Oct 28, 2013

ISFJ: 1w2 sp/so
ESFJ: 2w1 so/sx
ISTJ: 1w2 so/sp
ESTJ: 1w2 sx/so
ISFP: 9w1 sp/sx
ESFP: 8w7 so/sx
ISTP: 8w9 sp/sx
ESTP: 8w7 sp/sx
INFJ: 6w5 so/sp
ENFJ: 2w3 sx/so
INTJ: 6w5 sp/so
ENTJ: cp6w5 so/sp
INFP: 6w7 sp/sx
ENFP: 7w6 sx/sp
INTP: 5w6 so/sp
ENTP: 7w8 sp/sx

Spades · Oct 28, 2013

I believe that any combination is possible, some being more psychologically healthy than others, but here are the "stereotypes" (or archetypal models?) that come to mind when given an MBTI type:

ISFP: 9w8, 947
ESFP: 7w8*, 739
ISTP: 9w8, 935
ESTP: 7w8, 738

ISFJ: 9w1, 962
ESFJ: 2w1, 216
ISTJ: 1w9, 162
ESTJ: 6w5*, 631

INFP: 4w5, 496
ENFP: 4w3*, 471
INTP: 5w4, 593
ENTP: 7w6, 738

INFJ: 6w5*, 641
ENFJ: 2w3, 271
INTJ: 5w6, 513
ENTJ: 8w7, 835

Plug in a 6 fix/type for any one of these.
*More flimsy in my mind. Other options come up.

Inveniet · Oct 29, 2013

SuperSoaker said:
Now you miss out on all the treats

What treats?
A pat on the head and a cookie?

Inveniet · Oct 29, 2013

SuperSoaker said:
I don't think I would trust neither MBTI nor enneagram if there wasn't a correlation.

A type 5 Fe dom or a type 2 Ti dom just wouldn't make sense to me.

That is good I can work with a more concrete assumtion like this.
So you say that Fe doms can't lie in the withdrawn part of fear and that Ti doms can't lie in the proud part of image.
That sounds weird to me. It sounds to me that you have this intellectual stereotype of 5 and an emotional
stereotype of 2.

To me each of the 3 groups, fear, anger and shame can be represented on sliding scales.

1...........9............8
|----------|----------|

Where the center is undecided between two extremes.

1 direct anger against self, 8 directs anger at the world and 9 is trapped in the middle undecided.

2 is proud and craves feeling superior, 4 feels insufficient about percieved image,
and 3 is trapped in the middle.

5 retreats from the world because of fear of the world, 7 escapes into the world because of fear of self,
and 6 is in the middle undecided.

Probably possible to put this more elegant though.

Therefore you have phobic and counterphobic phases of the 6.
You have caring and uncaring periods of the 3.
And the 9 vacilates between explotions and periods of inner punishment.

SuperSoaker · Oct 29, 2013

Everything is on a scale from more to less, what does that has to do with core fears?

He's a Superhero! · Oct 29, 2013

It doesn't work like that. You can be any type combination..

SuperSoaker · Oct 29, 2013

I would be really interested in finding a type 5 esfj. One would think that combination would be more likely on a forum like this.

Arya · Oct 29, 2013

He's a Superhero! said:
It doesn't work like that. You can be any type combination..

You can, but some are more common than others.

What enneagram type do you associate with each mbti type?

cudibloop

Entropic

DiamondDays

nickvold

Father of Dragons

Swordsman of Mana

Inveniet

SuperSoaker

Inveniet

SuperSoaker

d e c a d e n t

SuperSoaker

Krelian91

Spades

Inveniet

Inveniet

SuperSoaker

He's a Superhero!

SuperSoaker

Arya

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