Most and least liked types by society?

morgandollar · Dec 6, 2018

What types do you think are generally liked and respected in society (as opposed to the MBTI community) and which are not so much?

I think extraverts tend to be liked more than introverts, people respect Te thinkers more than Ti thinkers (because they're more likely to "get shit done", make a lot of money, etc), and Fe users are seen as more warm and affable than Fi users. I would say that FJ types are the ones liked most by society and ExTJs are the most respected.

What do you think?

Fenty · Dec 6, 2018

Most liked
ESTJ
ENFP
ISTJ
INFP
ESFP
ISFP
ENTJ
INTJ
ESFJ
INTP
ISTP
ENFJ
ISFJ
ENTP
ESTP
INFJ
Least liked

This is based on the view that western society is very Te-Fi and Si-Ne.

So society would deem the order above as most liked, respected and useful. Whereas Se, Ni, Fe and Ti are all deemed at “too much” for society.

I agree that Te is more valued in society as compared to Ti (basically Mainstream vs non mainstream). I remember someone described Te as saying to a Ti person in the work place “you are not paid to think, so quit the thinking because that’s not what we do here”. That statement encapsulates Te so well. No shade, but Te doesn’t think, nor reason like Ti.

I would also say that extroverts tend to be more liked than introverts.

Fe vs Fi. I would say Fe can be warm in a very inclusive way they want everyone to [insert some sort of emotional expression], whereas Fi is warm in terms of forming and maintaining personal bonds. Hence why I say Fi is more valued in society as opposed to Fe because it works well with Te.

Fe is about freedom of expression, this creates a massive problem for Te because it stifles productivity [Te] and Fi because it causes drama and ruckus. Fi is about preserving emotional and ethical harmony, hence why people value this over Fe because “everyones happy”.

Janna · Dec 6, 2018

I hope that Es and Fs are generally liked, it's probably more important for them than for Is and Ts. Also I'd be surprised if Js weren't preferred over Ps, my guess is that Ps drive Js crazy but not the other way round.

I'm gonna go with ENFJ for the best liked type and ENTJ for the most respected.

Zeri · Dec 6, 2018

Most liked ? Probably FJs and FPs

Most respected? - Probably TJs. (Specifically Entjs)

Zeri · Dec 6, 2018

Least liked - Probably TPs. (Sorry, guys)

Least respected - hmmm.....tough one.

Janna · Dec 6, 2018

Fenty said:
Most liked
ESTJ
ENFP
ISTJ
INFP
ESFP
ISFP
ENTJ
INTJ
ESFJ
INTP
ISTP
ENFJ
ISFJ
ENTP
ESTP
INFJ
Least liked

You seem to have a solid theory behind this, but still the list looks surprising to me. How could INFJ be there at the bottom - what's there to not love about INFJs? So insightful and cooperative. And do people really like ESTJs the most or just respect their accomplishments?

Ocean Helm · Dec 6, 2018

I think society likes SJs the most on average. While there are some celebrity intuitives that bridge the communication barrier between them and the S-heavy population, they don't much represent how things work in person.

kiribek · Dec 6, 2018

I think it depends on which society you're referring to.
The mentality across countries (even European countries) is very different, and the general idea of "social conformity" is also different. A particular type of behavior can be respected or liked in one country, and disliked in another.
And given that MBTI types tend to behave in a particular way, then the mentality of a country will impact the "liking ratings" of any particular type.

Fatal Destiny · Dec 6, 2018

Well different types of modern society's will hold certain views and weight on different traits that are deemed desirable. So I don't think there is one single type that is most desired by society.Also I don't think it's a type per say rather certain traits that one type may naturally have. If we were to say Modern North American society then at the top of my head I would say ENFJ, ESTJ, ENTJ, ESFJ. High Fe users are very sociable and people oriented. Often warm and inviting. A trait that modern society holds. High Te users are the Leaders and the ones you respect. They get shit done and the lead with facts to lead their team to the goal. People respect those types and admire leadership and it comes natural for High Te does . Both are extrovert and want to connect with people more which majority of the population is and people as a whole are generally sociable. These are the traits that I would say people generally value as a society but, those traits are not limited to those traits just being admired and only those types being admired.

For least liked types: INTP overall for both male and female because society hates introverts for starters, both INTP males and females are seen as lazy incompetent losers just like INFPs while having distrust for social norms just like INTJs (For males, INFPs and INFJs are the most hated as they are considered the opposite of the average macho male. For females, INTJs and ISTPs are the most hated as they are the least lady like type for women and the least nurturing types even more than INTPs).

Janna · Dec 6, 2018

Fatal Destiny said:
INTP overall for both male and female because society hates introverts for starters, both INTP males and females are seen as lazy incompetent losers .

In my country "introverts" are actually preferred, but that's because many people don't really understand introversion and mainly think of the stereotype that introverts are quietly wise, whereas extroverts are obnoxious and full of hot air. What they actually love are quiet extroverts, the kind that want to be around people but don't talk a lot or at least not in a loud voice.

Any way you slice it, I'll end up as the least likable of all, because I'm a loud and talkative INTP. I'm ok with it.

Ocean Helm · Dec 6, 2018

For females, INTJs and ISTPs are the most hated as they are the least lady like type for women and the least nurturing types even more than INTPs).

I think it's the other way around. See: what you said earlier about "lazy incompetent losers having distrust for social norms". That's not very ladylike, is it?

morgandollar · Dec 7, 2018

Ocean Helm said:
I think it's the other way around. See: what you said earlier about "lazy incompetent losers having distrust for social norms". That's not very ladylike, is it?

I would say INTP's Fe (even being in the inferior position) and their Ne and Si (which is a more common axis among women) make them more of an androgynous rather than highly masculine type. For example me. Cognitively I'm very masculine and "logical" but people have asked me I'm gay because I have a rather feminine demeanor for a man. I think INTPs in general are pretty private when it comes to who we reveal our highly logical nature to, because most of the time other people don't care about our inner thoughts and we don't want others to think of us as cold. INTJs on the other hand, want others to perceive them as cold because they have a strong sense of vigilance and being Fi users they aren't into expressing emotions that aren't there.

ISTPs are the epitome of masculinity imo, and INTJs are also pretty androgynous too. INTPs have all the masculine dichtonomy preferences but also all the feminine functions (even Ti is more common in women's stacks, though men are more likely to lead to aux with it).

Ocean Helm · Dec 7, 2018

morgandollar said:
I would say INTP's Fe (even being in the inferior position)

Does "inferior Fe" actually mean "more Fe than INTJs"? How does this apply to ISTPs?

and their Ne and Si (which is a more common axis among women)

According to whom?

make them more of an androgynous rather than highly masculine type. For example me.

Thankfully we have you, the representative of all INTPs.

Cognitively I'm very masculine and "logical" but people have asked me I'm gay because I have a rather feminine demeanor for a man. I think INTPs in general are pretty private when it comes to who we reveal our highly logical nature to, because most of the time other people don't care about our inner thoughts and we don't want others to think of us as cold.

Myself and other INTPs appreciate you for speaking up for all of us.

New MBTI question:
Have you been asked if you were gay lately? If so, add 3 points to your INTP score!

INTJs on the other hand, want others to perceive them as cold because they have a strong sense of vigilance and being Fi users they aren't into expressing emotions that aren't there.

I'm sure INTJs feel the same.

ISTPs are the epitome of masculinity imo,

How about that "Fe (even being in the inferior position)"?

and INTJs are also pretty androgynous too.

But they want others to perceive them as cold and have masculine Ni/Se? And based on what you wrote before, *all masculine functions*.

INTPs have all the masculine dichtonomy preferences but also all the feminine functions (even Ti is more common in women's stacks, though men are more likely to lead to aux with it).

I'm sure there's boundless evidence backing this one up!

pikapal · Dec 7, 2018

I would say most liked ESTJ and least liked INFP.

Stevester · Dec 7, 2018

LOL @ ESTJs being the most liked type by society, LOL.

Yeah we get it, nobody here likes them so let's pretend society unfairly favors them just to drive that point even further.

The answer to the question is nice people and jackasses of any type respectively.

Elwinz · Dec 7, 2018

ESTJ is most liked by corporate world and bosses, not society in general.
ESTJ get all the hate from co-workers all the time ... and not just N types.

AncientOak · Dec 8, 2018

I tend to think the INFP's are less liked than indicated in the OP, at least in the USA, because we are opposite most of the majority.

THe US is extroverted, we're introverted.
The US highly values a "thinking" society, not feeling -- we are highly feeling based.
In the US, sensation is the predominant function, we collectively focus on "facts".....intuition is not highly valued by the majority.
Being spontaneous rather than oriented to scheduling is not as much of an affront, but in the other ways I think we really are a minority.

contradictionary · Dec 9, 2018

Ocean Helm said:
I think society likes SJs the most on average. While there are some celebrity intuitives that bridge the communication barrier between them and the S-heavy population, they don't much represent how things work in person.

True.

Most of the answer here simply do not represent what the actual society view things.

Sent sans PC

Zidane · Dec 9, 2018

Least liked: the least common types. Most liked: the most common types.

Charus · Dec 9, 2018

*Sees ESTJ's being at the top of the list and INFJ at the bottom*

Damn, I really hope that OP must be trolling or smoking some heavy weed.

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