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I assume anything with high Se
For me istp but he is estp socionic

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I assume anything with high Se
For me istp but he is estp socionic

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Curious, why do you think he's ISTP and not ESTP?

I know an STP who first typed himself as ESTP but then changed it to ISTP. He then concluded with simply STP because he couldn't decide.
This makes me wonder if all these times, they were actually ESTPs but fancy themselves being introverted (like how I initially mistyped as INFP...)
 
Curious, why do you think he's ISTP and not ESTP?

I know an STP who first typed himself as ESTP but then changed it to ISTP. He then concluded with simply STP because he couldn't decide.
This makes me wonder if all these times, they were actually ESTPs but fancy themselves being introverted (like how I initially mistyped as INFP...)
I originally typed him as an estp- hes more of an ambivert than an introvert . When I first joined perC I stated that I was married to an estp, it was after grasping a better understanding of cognitive functions ( I entered the site going by dichotomy) that I notice his Ni is as strong as his Se sometimes more prominent whereas he display inferior fe.
Hes very calculated and cautious compared to other Se dom . Sure he engages his 5 senses but its through hunting, shooting, riding his R6 rather than sport that requires an active audience ( Se dom) also he calculate his action before making an impulse and can often time envision what the future outcome of something is- as he ages hes more future oriented .
Also hes a lot more similar compared to an intp than estp - he typed himself as an intp- but retrieve to istp after realizing that he doesn't use any Ne

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Sorry, there were too many intellectual and serious threads in our forum and I was getting bored. :D
I don't know to be honest. Haven't met them yet.

But I'm curious what your answer is.
 
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@Alassea the main reason I concur to Se dom is mainly bc I've had many conversations with close friends- and Se dom tends to hit their list as best sex or when conversing with my esfp cousin or isfp best guy buddy their talk about sex is quite mind blowing- as in 60-70 orgasms or understanding the movement of someone's body etc
Many of my close gf would describe esxp as their best sexual encounter (for ex my infp friend told me she stayed with her estp ex bc of the sex towards the end of their relationship) quite sure my istp was sprung over his esfp ex ( this was 2 years prior to meeting me) for the same reason .

But if it's based upon my personal experience then istp however I don't have much of any other experiences

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I don't know to be honest. Haven't met them yet.

But I'm curious what your answer is.
I’m curious, would you happen to be a virgin Fox? No judgment I promise.

Honestly, my own sex life is a desert wasteland, but so far, my best relative experience was with an ISTP male I met on an app. I’m hoping to sleep with someone I feel explosive chemistry with outside the internet and if it leads to friends with benefits, that’d be ideal. bb
 
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@Alassea the main reason I concur to Se dom is mainly bc I've had many conversations with close friends- and Se dom tends to hit their list as best sex or when conversing with my esfp cousin or isfp best guy buddy their talk about sex is quite mind blowing- as in 60-70 orgasms or understanding the movement of someone's body etc
Many of my close gf would describe esxp as their best sexual encounter (for ex my infp friend told me she stayed with her estp ex bc of the sex towards the end of their relationship) quite sure my istp was sprung over his esfp ex ( this was 2 years prior to meeting me) for the same reason .

But if it's based upon my personal experience then istp however I don't have much of any other experiences

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Se is kinesthetically intelligent so that’s no surprise there.
I definitely want to try sleeping with an ESFP. ExSPs have a sensuality about them.

I’m curious. Did your ISTP ever compare you to his ESFP ex? The fact that I remember him being so persistent and patient in having you makes me wonder about our own magneticism as ENFPs.
 
I’m curious, would you happen to be a virgin Fox? No judgment I promise.

Honestly, my own sex life is a desert wasteland, but so far, my best relative experience was with an ISTP male I met on an app. I’m hoping to sleep with someone I feel explosive chemistry with outside the internet and if it leads to friends with benefits, that’d be ideal. bb
No, I'm not, but no one has really ultimately impressed me so far. Not saying that I've never had good sex but consistency is a thing. One night stands were the worst (I think I was too many people's "firsts") and my previous partners either didn't know my body that well or weren't selfless enough to try and learn. Best sex I have is when I've done all the work, maybe it's a personal hang up, I dunno. Would be great to find my sexual counterpart. If I have to pick, I'll go with INFJ.

Friends with benefits sounds great right now.
 
Se is kinesthetically intelligent so that’s no surprise there.
I definitely want to try sleeping with an ESFP. ExSPs have a sensuality about them.

I’m curious. Did your ISTP ever compare you to his ESFP ex? The fact that I remember him being so persistent and patient in having you makes me wonder about our own magneticism as ENFPs.
No he never compared me to his ex but as far as I know he told me he was so deeply infatuated by her that he thought he was in love with her . She intimidated him and that was appealing to him. I think he fell for me in a totally different way- he felt comfortable around me since day 1 - he tells me that hes always turned on around me- which was flattering then but annoys me now lol
Quite sure esfp are good- they have Fi aux so they'll most likely enjoy pleasing you

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I dearly enjoy sex threads. :blushed:
Especially from women. That's incredibly attractive.

I'll contribute that INTJ women do a lot thinking aloud in my experience, which would kill the mood unless you deploy physical contact to turn them on, out of beat with their thoughts, which leads to hot sex. ISFJ tends to be submissive after detecting "the mood", and submission is a fetish for many guys nowadays, me included.
@Alassea May I ask, are you a dom or a sub?
 
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I dearly enjoy sex threads. :blushed:
Especially from women. That's incredibly attractive.

I'll contribute that INTJ women do a lot thinking aloud in my experience, which would kill the mood unless you deploy physical contact to turn them on, out of beat with their thoughts, which leads to hot sex. ISFJ tends to be submissive after detecting "the mood", and submission is a fetish for many guys nowadays, me included.
@Alassea May I ask, are you a dom or a sub?
I can’t only be one. I don’t like labels but if I had one, it’d be a switch.

I’m sctually not that kinky although I’m open to it. Nothing turns me on more than intimate, teasing, slow and sensual love making with just a hint of roughness. ;-)
 
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I don't mean dom and sub in terms of bdsm guys, just in terms of the relationship dynamic.

Occasionally a relationship will have yin-yang dynamics, in which one partner is in control and the other partner supports that control. That'd be a dominant and submissive relationship.

Most people are submissive (male and female), because it's just easier and it feels nice to have a dom's full attention. It's a partnership, so in a good relationship they're both "in control", because although the Dominant is a bit more commanding, they both want to make each other happy.
 
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I don't mean dom and sub in terms of bdsm guys, just in terms of the relationship dynamic.

Occasionally a relationship will have yin-yang dynamics, in which one partner is in control and the other partner supports that control. That'd be a dominant and submissive relationship.

Most people are submissive (male and female), because it's just easier and it feels nice to have a dom's full attention. It's a partnership, so in a good relationship they're both "in control", because although the Dominant is a bit more commanding, they both want to make each other happy.
That's what I'm saying.

It doesn't have to be related to sex either. Like I said, I don't think about situations where there are labels of dom or sub. If people are into it, cool. It's just not for me and I don't care for it.

I want a partner in crime or power couple dynamic. That's about it.

I went out with an ESTJ guy about two weeks ago and already he was asking about the dom/sub dynamic thing and I immediately thought "Christian Grey alert!" Opted out and ran. Never have I been so turned off in my entire life.

Okay that was an exaggeration, but you get it. Although I notice a lot of NFPs seem to be into this kind of thing.
 
Last week I was kind of puzzling over the phrase "good at sex" because I really don't experience sex like that. I found something obviously written by a ENFP because I could have easily written it. In fact it felt like something I'd written in the near future or something:
What Makes Someone Good in Bed? | Scarleteen

I totally agree with every point our fellow ENFP is making in that thread.
I don't know if I feel that can be "good at sex" like as if it's playing hockey. I think someone is good at sex who is very into their partner, open to exploring, has a loving attitude, etc. If you look at ENTP's their kind of sex seems a lot about creativity and basically the mind and we are kind of the same with Ne but add love and connection and bonding by way of Fi to that. Although, I have a ENTP best friend and her Fe is pretty well developed and I know she has fun with her INFP husband, but I think he gives it that love kick and she is able to absorb that with her tert Fe. Although I don't think sex means to her (more of just a fun pleasurable thing) than it does to me. Sex and intensity and bonding with my husband is truly my oxygen. We're in a really good streak again, too, so I'm feeling pampered and fully connected.

An INFP's drive is not going to be as high as a ENFPs and they are not going to get as much out of it, but it's kind of close but on a bit mellower scale I think. My INFP sister... I've said... she loves sex but nothing like me and my ESFP cousin. I'm trying to think if there is some angle of sex where my husband gets MORE out of it than I do. Maybe in the "satisfied my partner" area? But he has to be really feeling like my love for him and respect for him is 100% before he even wants to have sex and he doesn't need the frequency I do. Make-up sex still seems to solve all global and earthly problems and conditions for all I know, but we haven't had to have make-up sex in a while because my husband is being freaking awesome lately.

So really I can only contrast what goes on with my own sexuality with my INFP and INTP sister and with my ESFP cousin. I get much more out of sex than my sisters, although I know sex is important to them.... How I know? I had just been married and I wanted to talk about the kinds of things my body would do and hear if this was common among us sisters and very quickly I learned that I should shut up because I felt sorry for them. Even though my sisters have had many partners through the years and many boyfriends they've never experienced anything that my body does, so. The discussion ended with me saying "Your bodies don't do that?" and them saying at the exact same time "Well MAYBE my body could do that!" and then kind of looking at each other and saying "Well... if yours can...." Um, yeah... I shut up.

The ESFP cousin and I feel about the same about sex. I told her husband after they had been married for about 18 months that he needed to have sex with her every day or else she would likely leave him. He nodded. He had finally had to accept this. And I think the woman wanting more is complicated. I think it makes the man feel like he can't deliver and actually lowers the attraction for him.
This is her third marriage and she said she hadn't dealt with anyone whose driver was lower than hers before. Her first marriage was to a ESxP and her second marriage to a ISTP. With the ISTP he set an alarm for 9:00 sex every evening since he had a job where he had to get up at 3:00 AM and anyway... she hadn't dealt with a guy with lower drive. She's married to a INTJ now.

Meanwhile, I've had to come to terms (took me 15 years) with being the one with more drive and basically my total well-being has so much to do with feeling that sexual connection and being able to feel myself to be able to be the sexual being that I am. But I have to say... .maybe the aspect that I get from having a INFP husband is that I know 100% that I am loved-- right now anyway-- and was 100% adored, wanted, accepted and loved the very first time we had sex and it created in me this feeling of being a very desired and powerful sexual being and I read a bunch of stuff about women sexuality and basically that feeling of being desired is the root of it all.

So... I do recommend INFPs to us. Very much so. Gonna go kiss the blazes out of him if he's awake....
 
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