At first I thought it was ridiculous but the more I learned about his personality the more plausible it seemed, now I can't decide and I'm completely on the fence. Would like to know some of your opinions....
Do you agree with the theory that Adolph Hitler was INFJ
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At first I thought it was ridiculous but the more I learned about his personality the more plausible it seemed, now I can't decide and I'm completely on the fence. Would like to know some of your opinions....
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Yeah probably INFJ doesn't bother me
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No I think he was likely an STJ. No empathy, sensory, lifeless art, huge micromanager and no intellectual interest. Example: BBC - History - World Wars: Hitler's Leadership Style
There is no need to start a new thread about INFJ Adolf Hitler in the INFJ forum, the proper place for the discussion of his type is the "Guess the type" forum: https://www.personalitycafe.com/guess-type/18655-adolf-hitler.html
Hard to say since he was a big time junkie https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ser-of-crystal-meth-american-military-intelligence-dossier-reveals-9789711.html
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omg did you hear what he did?
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I think it would be difficult to type someone who has a mental disorder.
Based on Linda Berens’ interaction styles (see article linked below), to me, it seems Hitler had what she calls an “In-Charge Interaction Style” (Directing Communication, Initiating Roles, Outcome Focus). If so, that would eliminate INFJ.
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“The Leading Edge of Psychological Type” by Linda Berens
https://lindaberens.com/the-leading-edge-of-psychological-type/
(There is a link on that web page to download the complete article.)
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He cared about the German people and took Germany out of hell economically, and culturally. 1920's Germany was decadent..
He noticed a pattern about the race of the rulers of Russian Bolshevism, and the spread of Communism which no one in the their right mind would want implemented.
He noticed a pattern about the race of the rulers of Russian Bolshevism, and the spread of Communism which no one in the their right mind would want implemented.
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Agreed hugely. I couldn't imagine any INFJs to be quite as domineering, but like you said it is hard to type someone who's completely insane
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Not sure if this is the place for this thread since there's already a really, really long thread about this, but sure, I'll chime in.
I'm cery much convinced that Hitler was an INFJ. His tunnel-vision into a single idea, caring so much about what others think, being a quiet leader that doesn't like interacting with people but excels at swaying crowds, having broad ideals while not being good at the specifics... It all fits very well with a dysfunctional INFJ.
I wouldn't cite him as an average INFJ though. Most of us are a little better at finding people who disagree with our views and integrating their ideas into our own.
I'm cery much convinced that Hitler was an INFJ. His tunnel-vision into a single idea, caring so much about what others think, being a quiet leader that doesn't like interacting with people but excels at swaying crowds, having broad ideals while not being good at the specifics... It all fits very well with a dysfunctional INFJ.
I wouldn't cite him as an average INFJ though. Most of us are a little better at finding people who disagree with our views and integrating their ideas into our own.
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wasn't even his ideas, there was actually a conspiracy theory/myth perpetuated at the time and he just believed it and it fueled his hatred after WWI
I've read that he really wasn't as charming as it's said, and that people who believed him were already inclined to do so, already nationalists. I think it's mentioned in the link I gave earlier or it might have been elsewhere.
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It's not just about how charming he was in a vacuum. It's about use of Fe in general. If you read his life's story there's talk of him getting caught with a gang of classmates for example. Later in life I can see how he might have been a bigger and bigger problem as he was obviously not really using his Fe in the usual way.
I once made a pretty long study of his entire life and there's many reasons to fit Fe for him, not just by looking at his later life.
That said: it's good to be skeptical of claims like this. For a historical figure like this it's easy to get caught up in the wrong things and go by their public image, which is almost always a red herring.
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His unusual way of using "Fe" is because he was no Feeler type most likely. He was just emotionally damaged and sensitive to things like rejection, failure, etc and behaved the way a T type does, no idea how to manage them, confront them, etc. Even his art seems more ST to me, technical and emotionless, or just a muted expression of emotion. They told him to go to architecture school instead. I don't see how he was N at all, much less an N dom. He was nationalistic and grew bitter after WWI and because he didn't wanna believe they lost he turned to that conspiracy theory that gave him the scapegoats of jews and communists. I doubt he barely had any ideas of his own in that regard, it was all SI - picking and choosing tangible information that can become twisted to confirms his worldview. His relationships were also a lot more on the STJ side, the particularly unhealthy type that's abusive, self centered and lacking empathic feelings.
I kind of laughed.
Anyways as to the post. I always thought he had high Fe and he was creative. Poet and artist. I detested the man but I didn't find his art lifeless. He certainly doesn't remind me of an STJ at all. Carl Jung even thought he was an INFJ (an unhealthy one). From reading some of his work I would say he was more of an ambivert than an introvert or extrovert. Kind of in the middle so one could argue the coach (ENFJ) type but then regarding other's work about him he leaned introverted. Shy yet very friendly when you got to know him, is the general read from everyone that wrote about him and didn't hate him. Trying to examine him as a historical figure to study. That narrow field could explain both Ni/Ti types.
I heard someone marked him as Fe because he was a vegetarian and that always gave me a little bit of a chuckle when I read that because Hitler was very fond of Bavarian sausages. He also banned Vegaterian groups through Germany. Alas, he suffered from gas and sweating and tried to avoid meats after 1937 I think. He still ate some, those damn Bavarian sausages I suppose are hard to turn down when offered.
When he killed himself in 1945 he was wearing his iron cross something he greatly valued from WWI, that's about the only STJ stance he had for me. I know my stepfather (ESTJ) greatly values his medals in the Airforce and his service to this country. Hitler also never drank but that was thrown out the window with drug use.
Still, he lived in poverty starving, trying to sell his fine art. I don't see an ISTJ or ESTJ trying to do this. My mother and stepfather would say that's not a practical way to live.
Still the Nobel peace prize and but hurt level of being offended could be what both my ENFJ and ESFJ friends have demonstrated and done when scorned. So there's your flaming Fe section.
So we know the man was heavy with the Ni/Ti/ Fe. INFJ. The Ti is so in your face it's hard to think ENFJ so that's why I always think INFJ.
Whether people believe this or not he was pretty detailed orientated to future events which he outlined in his Mein Kampf novel. There is no way after reading that novel that I think he was a sensor. Hitler knew exactly what he wanted for the country that he loved, and stayed the course, developing his perfect vision for his homeland. A perfect Ni/Ti futuristic vision. Let me tell you it's tough getting through that book, I wanted to burn it and would slam it shut several times as I cussed out the ceiling but I did make it through it.
Anyways my reasoning on why I think INFJ.
If you're really interested here is a list of some great reads on the discussion on what types of prominent teachers of the MBTI thought he was. Some of them are pretty good reads.
https://www.idrlabs.com/articles/2014/11/jung-myers-keirsey-etc-on-hitlers-type/
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I've heard from a German doctor that Hitler was on meth. That may explain some things... oh it wasn't just him it was his circle too, and they gave it to the soldiers, that's how they kept fighting for days. Kind of like how the US gave drugs to men in the Vietnam War....
I mean, I'm not sure how reliable that information is... but it's there.
I mean, I'm not sure how reliable that information is... but it's there.
It was more than just Meth but Meth was one of them.
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The very theory of myers briggs makes it impossible for anyone to actually type another without knowing their inner workings.
Briggs is about the way you think and process, not about how you behave. This is something people have a hard time understanding. "Do you keep your room clean? Yes. You're a J."
Do I agree with the theory that Hitler was an INFJ--No.
Could Hitler be an INFJ--Yes.
Briggs is about the way you think and process, not about how you behave. This is something people have a hard time understanding. "Do you keep your room clean? Yes. You're a J."
Do I agree with the theory that Hitler was an INFJ--No.
Could Hitler be an INFJ--Yes.
Him being an INFJ I find more convincing than if someone made the claim that Stalin or Churchill were INFJs.
I have no idea though, but I do believe xNFJs probably make up quite a number of cult leaders from the past, so I don't find it out of the question.
I have no idea though, but I do believe xNFJs probably make up quite a number of cult leaders from the past, so I don't find it out of the question.
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