I am just wondering what your experiences are with the Ni-Ti loop.
Explain the Ni-Ti Loop To Me Please
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Tough to describe would be my introductory statement. There are different ways this can happen. It happens generally when I, being introverted, withdraw to my inner world to reflect either on information I received from my Fe or to reflect deeper on what my Ni is giving me. It's hard to describe what that looks like exactly and I may have to come back to this with an example.
Here's a good video. Erik Thor has actually made many great videos about INFJs.
Here's a good video. Erik Thor has actually made many great videos about INFJs.
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Oh, I thought this was about Ni Fi-loop, sorry, topic did look really similar though.
Discard this as just my amateurish experiences, I actually been in thoughts regarding this, but that was due to influence of Fi, so see this as just rambling: Ni Ti-loop for me starts with "What does this person actually and really thinks about me"..., and usually ends with "I did that wrong, I need to shut up in that case.", "I should know better about now being remembered about this tiny detail what that person said.", "It could very well be that this person actually thinks something else based on this and that minor detail that I once saw and did not even know what it actually was about."
I do not have actual hands-on experience being in Ni Ti-loops, but I do know very much about Ni Fi-loops.
Discard this as just my amateurish experiences, I actually been in thoughts regarding this, but that was due to influence of Fi, so see this as just rambling: Ni Ti-loop for me starts with "What does this person actually and really thinks about me"..., and usually ends with "I did that wrong, I need to shut up in that case.", "I should know better about now being remembered about this tiny detail what that person said.", "It could very well be that this person actually thinks something else based on this and that minor detail that I once saw and did not even know what it actually was about."
I do not have actual hands-on experience being in Ni Ti-loops, but I do know very much about Ni Fi-loops.
Since this is under INFJ and INFJ = Ni Fe Ti Se. Intuition is okay, but what if its wrong? If yer Ti is messed up (after all it's in 3rd place) you got an Ni-Ti loop trying to get out of an intuition which is off.
It would help to see this "loop" to take a closer look, lol.
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I would probably describe my perception of the Ni/Ti loop as a hypercritical overanalyzation and attempt at reconciliation of correcting how a socio-emotional situation as it is to as it could be through a subjectively "technical" approach. I.e. If I create a system to fix X then people will see the good it as I do and use it/support it to build a better culture/help each other.
An overanalyzed ideal (unhealthy Ni) being applied with a subjectively logical lattice system (unhealthy Ti) to improve the socio-emotional environment that people as a whole can benefit from (Fe) and the idealist in question can feel fulfilled in their own subconconsious psyco-emotional well-being (Fi).
An overanalyzed ideal (unhealthy Ni) being applied with a subjectively logical lattice system (unhealthy Ti) to improve the socio-emotional environment that people as a whole can benefit from (Fe) and the idealist in question can feel fulfilled in their own subconconsious psyco-emotional well-being (Fi).
Ni-Ti loop is just basically overanalyzing your intuition to Hell and back which only ends up giving you more intuition to overanalyze and creates a vicious cycle. For it to be a Ni-Ti loop you have to be shutting off and even devaluing your auxiliary Fe function and skipping to Ti which is for maintaining a sense of cold impersonal logic, also you'll become increasingly detached and fearful of reality because you're skipping inferior Se too. You're just consumed by the need for what you're intuiting to make sense to you, but you're just becoming isolated and lost in thick mind fog. Your otherwise strong intuition becomes bizarre and scattered and only you could make sense of it if you tried to explain. You're not percieving or judging things properly because you can't see things fully and clearly. Ni is being limited from the undervaluing of its Se axis partner which should be feeding it normally. Ti is possibly judging its Fe twin as stupid or irrelevant as something that only gets in the way of their logic.
You can gradually become overwhelmed and paranoid. You become a hermit who never wants to leave your room. You feel more misunderstood than you probably usually do and the thought of being around others might even repulse you, which isn't normal for a healthy INFJ who values getting human connection.
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Actually I think this guy explains it well, he even gives a funny little example at 3:45
You can gradually become overwhelmed and paranoid. You become a hermit who never wants to leave your room. You feel more misunderstood than you probably usually do and the thought of being around others might even repulse you, which isn't normal for a healthy INFJ who values getting human connection.
Actually I think this guy explains it well, he even gives a funny little example at 3:45
Your explanation is great! I was about to return to retract my misinforming answer. Then I saw yours. I agree this Ni-Ti loop is not a healthy state of mind, although in very small amounts it gets things done, although in those cases it is not a loop...
That video is great and the example is good too. I was interested in how paranoia affects INFJs, if they experience this as much as I do. I'm beginning to think that Ni in general is a paranoid function, as I have seen countless people who have Ni complain about this problem: ESFPs, ENTJs, etc... Danger of going slightly off topic here... I think the Ni-Ti loop paranoia is perhaps a little more paranoid than the average paranoia for Ni users.
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