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#21 ·
AAADD said:
When I was 22 years old everything with me was still f-d up. At that point I still haven't really developped myself, that came later. College was for me back then still a problem too. It's quite sad thinking back about it. For some reason I feel ashamed how I used to be, but I shouldn't be. I should be proud where I stand now, even though I still have a lot to do.

Yeah I think the younger me would be more INTP looking than xNFP looking like I am, but thinking back about how I was and what I felt as a child then that was INFP all over it actually, or an unheallthy ENFP, but obviously difficulties expressing it / myself.
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When I was a child, I was obsessed with dinosaurs, and I impressed everyone with my knowledge about them. People would call me a genius. Now, people call me a retard, or at least my mom (ISTJ 1w9) does every time I make a mistake. I feel like I went from an INTP as a child to an INFJ as a preteen to an ENFP as a teenager to an INFP as an adult. But, I guess I've always been an INFP, and if not, then an INTP with too much estrogen. Maybe if I ever do HRT, I'll end up as an INTP. It sure would be badass to be an INTP 4w3.
 
#22 ·
Tetsuo Shima said:
When I was a child, I was obsessed with dinosaurs, and I impressed everyone with my knowledge about them. People would call me a genius. Now, people call me a retard, or at least my mom (ISTJ 1w9) does every time I make a mistake. I feel like I went from an INTP as a child to an INFJ as a preteen to an ENFP as a teenager to an INFP as an adult. But, I guess I've always been an INFP, and if not, then an INTP with too much estrogen. Maybe if I ever do HRT, I'll end up as an INTP. It sure would be badass to be an INTP 4w3.
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Our little conversation reminds of what someone told me lately. She told me my strength is my intellect. I trust on that. Which doesn't sound INFP (or ENFP) at all, but she's got a point. When trusting on my feelings or intuition I start doubting.

As a child, oh, everything I did (if I did anything at all, lol) I had to trust it on my intellect doing so. Back then there's no way I was ready to trust on my feelings or intuition. Still having difficulties trusting on them, which is now what I'm working on.

I guess it felt safer to trust on what makes sense, what can be explained by clear logic, than on what seems more vague if you are a f-d up child whose feelings have been crushed.
 
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Emologic said:
Okay, I'll give it a try. I could be completely right, I could also be completely wrong.

Aspie INFPs have very, very high affective empathy. When they see a person or animal in pain, they feel the pain with them, so to speak.
However, their cognitive empathy isn't very good. They do have the very basic social skills, but that's mostly it.
Despite their affective empathy, they can still be very apathetic at times.
The combination of apathy and empathy often manifests in egoism.
If you were apathetic to an aspie INFP sibling, they would be confused and disappointed in you, maybe saying something along the lines of "Why are you treating me so badly?! Siblings are supposed to love one another, because that's what siblings do!"
Immature aspie INFPs see themselves as the middle of the universe, and when they're entertained, they can just do that for hours with no care in the world. Like other Ne/Si and Si/Ne-people, they have their worlds separate, so their emotions can heavily change with the environment. They can forget things, remember things, think about things just by switching environments. But they're bad at managing these environments. Also, they like having a routine, though not too strict.
Imagine this, if you had an aspie INFP boyfriend or girlfriend, so, you would eat out on Fridays for a few weeks, and then the next Friday, they would expect to eat out and consciously think about food just because of the day of the week and the association they made with that day of the week. If the requirement isn't fulfilled, they will be disappointed, but usually adapt to that by distracting themselves and not giving a fuck anymore. Not sure.

You can imagine their function stackings like a wheel with 2 perpendicular lines running through the middle, each axes representing judgement and perception. Therefore Fi on the one end of the first line and Te on the other. On the second like, Ne on the one end, Si on the other.
Now, their wheel is tilted in such a way that their Fi on top, their Ne isn't much higher than their Si, and their Te is at rock bottom.

What do you guys think?
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Literally me...

I also relate a LOT to @Tetsuo Shima, even the dinosaur part.
 
#25 ·
AAADD said:
Our little conversation reminds of what someone told me lately. She told me my strength is my intellect. I trust on that. Which doesn't sound INFP (or ENFP) at all, but she's got a point. When trusting on my feelings or intuition I start doubting.

As a child, oh, everything I did (if I did anything at all, lol) I had to trust it on my intellect doing so. Back then there's no way I was ready to trust on my feelings or intuition. Still having difficulties trusting on them, which is now what I'm working on.

I guess it felt safer to trust on what makes sense, what can be explained by clear logic, than on what seems more vague if you are a f-d up child whose feelings have been crushed.
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My intellect is all that I like to be complimented on. I consider people to be shallow if they compliment my appearance. But these days, my strength manifests itself much more in my creativity unless the topic of a conversation takes a turn to Phoenician mythology, the Cthulhu mythos, or something else that still interests me like that, in which case all of my suppressed intellectuality will come out in a ramble, hard for slow-thinking xxxJs to follow, and often interspersed with epiphanies as if I'm channeling even more information as I speak. When I do get to talk about what I care about, I can almost feel my chakras opening up, but maybe that's just how happiness feels. I don't doubt my feelings. I embrace the anti-intellectual, hopeful passion that is Fi. I want to believe in magic and the like because science has only disappointed me. Nothing natural is perfect, but there are so many supernatural things that I want to believe in. It's my Si and Te that cause me to doubt the new age mysticism that I long to embrace.
 
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#26 ·
Endologic said:
Okay, I'll give it a try. I could be completely right, I could also be completely wrong.

Aspie INFPs have very, very high affective empathy. When they see a person or animal in pain, they feel the pain with them, so to speak.
However, their cognitive empathy isn't very good. They do have the very basic social skills, but that's mostly it.
Despite their affective empathy, they can still be very apathetic at times.
The combination of apathy and empathy often manifests in egoism.
If you were apathetic to an aspie INFP sibling, they would be confused and disappointed in you, maybe saying something along the lines of "Why are you treating me so badly?! Siblings are supposed to love one another, because that's what siblings do!"
Immature aspie INFPs see themselves as the middle of the universe, and when they're entertained, they can just do that for hours with no care in the world. Like other Ne/Si and Si/Ne-people, they have their worlds separate, so their emotions can heavily change with the environment. They can forget things, remember things, think about things just by switching environments. But they're bad at managing these environments. Also, they like having a routine, though not too strict.
Imagine this, if you had an aspie INFP boyfriend or girlfriend, so, you would eat out on Fridays for a few weeks, and then the next Friday, they would expect to eat out and consciously think about food just because of the day of the week and the association they made with that day of the week. If the requirement isn't fulfilled, they will be disappointed, but usually adapt to that by distracting themselves and not giving a fuck anymore. Not sure.

You can imagine their function stackings like a wheel with 2 perpendicular lines running through the middle, each axes representing judgement and perception. Therefore Fi on the one end of the first line and Te on the other. On the second like, Ne on the one end, Si on the other.
Now, their wheel is tilted in such a way that their Fi on top, their Ne isn't much higher than their Si, and their Te is at rock bottom.

What do you guys think?
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I'm autistic (mild and diagnosed at 5) (and adhd and I also have ocd and severe social anxiety)
and I'm also supposedly INFP and you got it right with the whole overely empathetic thing, I litterally feel others pain but I can't do sht about it because I don't know how to comfort people...The best thing I do is try to make them happy by cracking some jokes and playing video games with them and then I panic for another month over my friend being sad and me not being able to help them. When people hurt me, my inferior te comes out and suddenly I am ranting at them (close friends and family only) and I am pointing out their flaws, 10 minutes later I'm regretting what I said and contemplating whether I'm a horrible person or not. Even though I have autism, I don't like routines at all so that friday one is something I would not do.

I'll put in my two cents on what an autistic INFP is like and I'll steer clear of writing about myself. Btw sorry if I'm taking over..
I feel like an autistic INFP comes off as an ISFP somewhat due to the fact that autistic people can struggle with figuring out the big picture and seeing multiple possibilities to things, the autistic INFP can get tunnel visioned more than neurotypical INFPS and may become obsessed with something to the point of ignoring reality and only focusing on that one thing, unlike neurotypical INFPS, the autistic INFP is probably very observant and great with their sensors, they notice everything around them, maybe too much, they hear every sound, and see everything, and notice the details that no one else noticed. The autistic INFP may also be quite open minded, more so than a neurotypical one, as they would judge people less since they know what it is like to be judged for something you can't control. Then again, there is this thing saying that Autistiic trait is apathy and not seeing more than one way with things but the NE really helps fix that Ig. Autistic INFPS also may seem more masculine and blunt since autistic people have male parts of the brain, even if they are a woman. The fi is extremely strong, yet Autistic INFPS may not understand it and constantly question who they are and what they like, they won't know who they are, but once you attack a personal value, the inferior te comes out like a madwoman. Once again unlike the neurotypical INFP, the autistic INFP may crave more socialization and validation. Being alone might seem like heaven for someone with autism but thats actually not completely true, sure it may be fun at first for most people with autism, but later on we just have to get out of our own brains, we need some kind of outside stimulation, anything to get us away from the thoughts and sadness, so we need people, we need to mirror people, we need to figure out how to not be weird so we can make more friends. The neurotypical INFP doesn't really worry about all that stuff so they are fine with being alone.

I think I'm done lmao. Oh damn 2013..I only just saw that, welp hope you're still alive! (PS if you're wondering why I havn't deleted my post after realizing how late I am, well its because my ocd..it won't let me delete anything I type out...it must stay. ) haha
 
#27 ·
Endologic said:
Okay, I'll give it a try. I could be completely right, I could also be completely wrong.

Aspie INFPs have very, very high affective empathy. When they see a person or animal in pain, they feel the pain with them, so to speak.
However, their cognitive empathy isn't very good. They do have the very basic social skills, but that's mostly it.
Despite their affective empathy, they can still be very apathetic at times.
The combination of apathy and empathy often manifests in egoism.
If you were apathetic to an aspie INFP sibling, they would be confused and disappointed in you, maybe saying something along the lines of "Why are you treating me so badly?! Siblings are supposed to love one another, because that's what siblings do!"
Immature aspie INFPs see themselves as the middle of the universe, and when they're entertained, they can just do that for hours with no care in the world. Like other Ne/Si and Si/Ne-people, they have their worlds separate, so their emotions can heavily change with the environment. They can forget things, remember things, think about things just by switching environments. But they're bad at managing these environments. Also, they like having a routine, though not too strict.
Imagine this, if you had an aspie INFP boyfriend or girlfriend, so, you would eat out on Fridays for a few weeks, and then the next Friday, they would expect to eat out and consciously think about food just because of the day of the week and the association they made with that day of the week. If the requirement isn't fulfilled, they will be disappointed, but usually adapt to that by distracting themselves and not giving a fuck anymore. Not sure.

You can imagine their function stackings like a wheel with 2 perpendicular lines running through the middle, each axes representing judgement and perception. Therefore Fi on the one end of the first line and Te on the other. On the second like, Ne on the one end, Si on the other.
Now, their wheel is tilted in such a way that their Fi on top, their Ne isn't much higher than their Si, and their Te is at rock bottom.

What do you guys think?
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Being an INFP with high functioning autism, I can say that all the above is basically true. I'll address every line:
1) I agree with having the high affective empathy. I can't watch movies because if there are sad scenes I get depressed for days. I can't watch animal rescue videos because I hate the thought of them suffering, etc etc.
2) I do have cognitive empathy, but it is true that it isn't very good. I can only sense other people's mood and feelings if they are obvious. I also have basic social skills and I am actually quite well-liked. But mostly I think this is because I am interesting and not because I socialise normally. I've had people tell me that talking with me is confusing because I will skip around to different ideas very quickly and just talk about whatever is interesting, instead of continuing along the same thread of conversation.
3) I agree with that. While I feel the pain of others, if I don't like that person or if they are in direct conflict with me, I can be very apathetic towards them. I don't like that I am like that but it's like my 'survival' function gets switched on at the slightest of aggression and I don't have the ability to put myself in others' shoes anymore. For me personally, it's because I feel threatened by their hostility and that my self-esteem is based around me getting along with others. The more I get along with others (or at least have no conflict or resentment), the happier I am.
4) When I was younger and didn't have much self awareness (about when I was six until when I was nine or ten) I was a very egoistic child. Unfortunately I was also bullied and betrayed several times in primary school (little kids can be horrible) because of the 'strange' way I would talk and because I was introverted and seemed like an easy target - so my egoism was aggravated. I developed the habit of looking down on people in order to push them away and it took the rest of my two years in primary to self-reflect enough to overcome my egoism. Luckily (idk if it's INFP thing or an Aspergers thing) I do a LOT of self reflection every day. Like, a loooot.
5) When I was in daycare and primary school I was definitely the centre of my own universe, and even to this day, when I am entertained, I do that same thing for hours and hours (long after the people I'm playing with have gotten bored).
b) My family has always said that I'm 'off in the clouds', 'off with the fairies', 'living in my own little world' or 'living on my own island and not caring about whatever everyone else is doing'. I've been told that even when I was three or four, I would happily play by myself even if other children or adults were around that I could play with (but just didn't care to).
6) I've also found that environments heavily influence me. I can remember the layout of my friends' houses after only being there once (at least I can find the bathroom every time lol). Whenever I go to a place that I associate with an emotional experience it changes my mood. It's why I struggle at my parents' house, because I had a troublesome childhood.
7) Finally, routine for me can't be too strict but it can't be non-existent. I take tablets every day but I only recently started taking a tablet in the morning. Usually, I just take all my tablets at the same time at about 7 in the evening, but I have to take one in the morning too now. I forget it regularly but I'm kind of getting used to it. Another example is that on Wednesdays I have vocal lessons. If I have to move these appointments because something came up, then remembering can be very challenging.

Anyway if you ever want to ask about how an Aspergers INFP thinks I am happy to answer questions. :)
 
#28 ·
Endologic said:
Okay, I'll give it a try. I could be completely right, I could also be completely wrong.

Aspie INFPs have very, very high affective empathy. When they see a person or animal in pain, they feel the pain with them, so to speak.
However, their cognitive empathy isn't very good. They do have the very basic social skills, but that's mostly it.
Despite their affective empathy, they can still be very apathetic at times.
The combination of apathy and empathy often manifests in egoism.
If you were apathetic to an aspie INFP sibling, they would be confused and disappointed in you, maybe saying something along the lines of "Why are you treating me so badly?! Siblings are supposed to love one another, because that's what siblings do!"
Immature aspie INFPs see themselves as the middle of the universe, and when they're entertained, they can just do that for hours with no care in the world. Like other Ne/Si and Si/Ne-people, they have their worlds separate, so their emotions can heavily change with the environment. They can forget things, remember things, think about things just by switching environments. But they're bad at managing these environments. Also, they like having a routine, though not too strict.
Imagine this, if you had an aspie INFP boyfriend or girlfriend, so, you would eat out on Fridays for a few weeks, and then the next Friday, they would expect to eat out and consciously think about food just because of the day of the week and the association they made with that day of the week. If the requirement isn't fulfilled, they will be disappointed, but usually adapt to that by distracting themselves and not giving a fuck anymore. Not sure.

You can imagine their function stackings like a wheel with 2 perpendicular lines running through the middle, each axes representing judgement and perception. Therefore Fi on the one end of the first line and Te on the other. On the second like, Ne on the one end, Si on the other.
Now, their wheel is tilted in such a way that their Fi on top, their Ne isn't much higher than their Si, and their Te is at rock bottom.

What do you guys think?
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i tihnk infp autistics hate routine
 
#29 ·
Kaboomz said:
like a regular infp, but with more flapping?























for some reason ixfps always strike me as "quietly confident". it's one of the reasons i like them so much, but obviously few people are confident all the time, so i could imagine that it would manifest as extreme introversion, total avoidance of conflict and probably next to no eye contact and emotional expression...who knows. i'm interested to find out!















she could also be intp...inferior fe could manifest itself as depression, social anxiety etc etc, plus they are naturally flappy, generally avoid eye contact (ti makes it impossible to think and engage with the outside world at same time) and would ostensibly seem quite emotional when stressed, though it would be a weird childish emotional thing, sort of like trying to bottle up a waterfall..you can do it, but you're gonna get wet regardless















high functioning autism does tend to become very self assured in my experience, so either could fit i gueUuss
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R u autistic I hope so otherwise don't be ableist Ty
 
#32 ·
melody5697 said:
Why is this thread from years ago being revived… Seriously. I posted this seven years ago.
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i dont notice years, or time. I just search up infp autism on google, find this forum and saw someone being weird in the comments. As someone that has autism, their comment offended me. pretty sure autism gets in the way of cognitive functions anyway, because I know other autistic people and their cognitive functions change rapidly.
 
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cocokitty0 said:
i dont notice years, or time. I just search up infp autism on google, find this forum and saw someone being weird in the comments. As someone that has autism, their comment offended me. pretty sure autism gets in the way of cognitive functions anyway, because I know other autistic people and their cognitive functions change rapidly.
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I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work that way… We have several diagnosed autistic people on this forum. @Necrofantasia @NIHM @Mantighast Your cognitive functions don’t change rapidly, right?
 
#34 ·
melody5697 said:
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work that way… We have several diagnosed autistic people on this forum. @Necrofantasia @NIHM @Mantighast Your cognitive functions don’t change rapidly, right?
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Yeah my cognitive functions have been pretty solid my whole life for either version of the meaning:

1. Cognitive function defined for the broad term that includes many varied and complex brain activities (or cognitive functions), such as attention, memory, processing speed, and executive (i.e., reasoning, planning, problem solving, and multitasking).

I would say some of this version has slowed down because of my age and not because of my autism. I'm just getting older and more forgetful but I still maintain a high intelligence score throughout most tests I can take.

2. The cognitive functions designed by Jung.

I would say my Te has strengthening the most as I've aged for an ENFP but my Ne is still top heavy. My Fi and Te will change places given on hormonal phase within my monthly cycle and circumstances that life gives your to effect my emotional output. I would say the last several days I've been in a Si grip do to finding out about a cancer diagnosed. So my fi and my si are probably higher levels, which happens when I'm stressed. My Te is still there loud and clear screaming, you got this boo, be the fucking bad ass you know you are. I still have been a solid enfp my entire life.
 
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melody5697 said:
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work that way… We have several diagnosed autistic people on this forum. @Necrofantasia @NIHM @Mantighast Your cognitive functions don’t change rapidly, right?
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According to type whisperer not really. I often stick my posts there to do a longitudinal check for shits and giggles. Majority of the time it's Ne or Ti that is spotted first.

... I would not mind the occasional high S day though
 
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cocokitty0 said:
i dont notice years, or time. I just search up infp autism on google, find this forum and saw someone being weird in the comments. As someone that has autism, their comment offended me. pretty sure autism gets in the way of cognitive functions anyway, because I know other autistic people and their cognitive functions change rapidly.
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Melody u r ableist to my adhd.
Edit: Unless u meant it in a jokey nice way thrn im sorry fir taking it personally. I cant tell whst u meant
 
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cocokitty0 said:
Melody u r ableist to my adhd.
Edit: Unless u meant it in a jokey nice way thrn im sorry fir taking it personally. I cant tell whst u meant
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What in the world are you talking about??? You quoted yourself, not me, so I genuinely have no idea what I said that you think is ableist. Are you talking about the facepalm reaction??? That was in response to you thinking that autism causes someone’s cognitive functions to change rapidly. All autism can do to cognitive functions is cause them to present differently from how they would in neurotypical people, which may make it more difficult to type an autistic person in some cases (though not always; I used to be in a meetup group with several autistic people and it was really easy for me to type one of them as an ISFJ), but they still have a stable function stack just like everyone else.
 
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