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Unhealthy type 4s can be self absorbed

I would consider myself quite 'unhealthy' and I think I resemble that stereotypical narcissist, only I don't show that to the external world so not many people would notice.

Are any of you other type fours like so? How do you deal with it and how does it affet the way you live your daily life?
 
I act similar to this. I think very Superior and everything in my head, but try to control my arrogance when
i'm with other people. I seem to think that 90% of people are all very similar and predictable and i'm the only creative intuitive person out there.

However I do feel like I alternate between feeling superior and inferior as my
self-estem is always going up and down.Even when i'm depressed though I notice
I seem to feel like my issues are more 'real' or less shallow that regular people.

I think sometimes i might just be jealous of other people, but truly i am
arrogant and i don't enjoy being that way. I have spoken with a lot of my good friends about it
after having a huge argument with my roommate who said she "couldn't stand living with me"
because i made her feel "so inferior." I really try to not sound condescending but sometimes it
just comes out and i get cynical, sarcastic and superior. I think most of my friends understand that
I don't hate them, I just deal with my life that way.

My roommate and I dont live together anymore but we are still great friends. I think its not so
much about trying to hide being narcissistic from the public, as much as it is you should actually
try to respect other people.

I always get jealous of really humble people, I wish I was like that. I'm not a total bitch though,
I'm really nice and listen to peoples problems, I volunteer, I just have some arrogance issues,
its not all that bad. Be careful in relationships though. =)
 
i'm incredibly self-absorbed and self-referential, which can be shitty but as a writer is an asset. it helps me create things that are revealing and honest.

i definitely need to work on it, but i feel the most creative when i'm operating from a place a of a certain kind of narcissism.
 
I am extremely self-absorbed but I've made peace with it


My narcissism results:


Your score is
7

Maximum is 40. Average for Americans is 15. Highest tested celebrity is Robin Quivers, with 34.



Your score for Authority is LOW

Your score for Self-sufficiency is LOW

Your score for Superiority is MEDIUM

Your score for Exhibitionism is LOW

Your score for Exploitativeness is LOW

Your score for Vanity is MEDIUM

Your score for Entitlement is LOW
 
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One thing I've learned with living with narcissists like my mother, my grandmother, and my future mother in law is that true narcissists don't know they're narcissists. They don't have the slightest clue. Kind of like the crazy people don't know they're crazy.

I think everyone has their own share of narcissistic traits however, we as humans are just wired that way.
 
Your score is 13.
Your score for Authority is LOW
Your score for Self-sufficiency is LOW
Your score for Superiority is LOW
Your score for Exhibitionism is LOW
Your score for Exploitativeness is LOW
Your score for Vanity is HIGH
Your score for Entitlement is LOW


Lol, what's going on here?
 
I don't see how vanity has anything to do with narcissism. Isn't vanity an insecurity likely to cause obsessive compulsive behavior?

Anyway, I scored 13 on the test. And for all the questions I had doubts about, I voted in favor of narcissism. I do have a sense of superiority, which I hate myself for having, yet I like it at the same time because that's just how it is with me; I'm two opposites in one. Everything is double. And I don't mean that it's all neutral, it's always both extremes at the same time. In the moment I'm usually able to lean more to one side than the other (though it's far from always) but when I look back or forward and see things in the big picture it's the both of the opposite extremes at the same time.
 
I would think now that the test was affected by my mirror gazing the first time I put on make-up successfully.
And I can definitely sympathize with the extremes. One day I feel like less than dirt; the other, I'm the best person in the world.
 
I don't think it's deemed narcissistic but I usually have a notion that I'm right inside my head although I never try to dissuade the other person if it's going to cause unnecessary conflict. I just don't have energy for that. :bored: hah.
Ever since I was young also, I never, ever complimented myself or let myself be complimented. It was so strange seeing all these people praise themselves either explicitly or just as hints; I always thought how self-absorbed that was but then I would feel bad about it and that seemed a bit narcissistic of me to think my different way of thinking was a bit better.. heh.
 
I always score like 10 on that test, which is on the low end.

I can be self-absorbed with my thoughts/feelings, but it's not in a "I'm so great" kind of way. I actually have more insecurities than I express. I may have a slight elitist attitude when it comes to taste, which is a very 4 thing, as it's hiding an insecurity over the true self. I identify with external things to create an image, because deep down I fear I have no personality, or not a very interesting one. However, I don't feel supriority in abilities, worth, etc; I may actually feel inferior.

I am definitely not a jealous person; 4 envy is not about begrudging others what they have, but also wanting similar success/happiness for yourself. It's a "grass is greener" attitude, where you fail to see everyone else has problems & failures of equal magnitude to yours. I can relate a little to that, but it's not what I would call my main emotional motivation by a long shot. I too easily empathize with other people's plights; but that is a sign of a healthy 4, which is encouraging for me to see in myself.

Anyhow, the enneagram descriptions which match each type to a "sin" are a bit too kitschy for my taste. The ones which discuss the 4 need for unique identity and separating yourself from others to define yourself in relation to the group (and therefore have a unique identity), etc, are things I relate to more. There's a need to be significant in some way (making your mark on the world) because you feel insignificant.
 
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I've taken some tests to check whether I' narcissistic or something else, and I get different results every time. According to the tests I am narcisisstic, histrionic AND schizotypal. Why do I have friends? Do I have friends? :confused:
Oh don't worry about I was convinced I had Borderline Personality disorder a few years ago. I read a book on it and un-diagnosed myself lol. I'm kinda shciztypal though :proud:
 
I got 20. Phew

Your score for Authority is MEDIUM

Your score for Self-sufficiency is MEDIUM

Your score for Superiority is HIGH

Your score for Exhibitionism is MEDIUM

Your score for Exploitativeness is LOW

Your score for Vanity is LOW

Your score for Entitlement is MEDIUM

ono
 
It was in high school where I became more focussed on my image and thusly became narcissistic in my appearance.

Growing up, a lot of people were hurtful and condescending to me. I act in the same way now, but it's not done with malicious intent. Instead, I use it as my form of humor, though there are times when I feel like I'm better than some people.

However, while I'm prone to being egocentric and condescending, I sometimes have incredible low self-esteem which I suppose acts like a failsafe to prevent me from going over the top. But that failsafe doesn't always work.
 
My score is 11

Your score for Authority is MEDIUM
Your score for Self-sufficiency is LOW
Your score for Superiority is MEDIUM
Your score for Exhibitionism is LOW
Your score for Exploitativeness is MEDIUM
Your score for Vanity is MEDIUM
Your score for Entitlement is LOW

If I do get a chance to tell people about myself....I feel that I brag a lot :\! But I will also tell about my bad sides....this also feels like i'm proud to have bad sides too.....x.x!
 
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