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Greetings! Stumbled upon a website with several philosophers thought to be INTP, thought I'd share them with the rest of the forum. :happy:

Site: PhilosopherTypes

INTP
(Ti, Ne, Si, Fe)


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Parmenides
Presocratic logical monist
"Let reason alone decide."
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René Descartes
First 'modern' philosopher who instituted the hard divide between body and soul or physical and mental"Cogito ergo sum."("I think therefore I am.")
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Leonardo da Vinci
Universal Renaissance genius "The Human foot - a masterpiece of engineering."
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Baruch Spinoza
Early enlightenment thinker and spiritual monist"The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free (...) I call him free who is led solely by reason."

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Immanuel Kant
Greatest modern philosopher, who instituted the divide between noumenalism and phenomenalismKant: "All our knowledge begins with the senses, proceeds to the understanding, and ends with reason. There is nothing higher than reason."

Kant: "By the writings [of his subjects] a [monarch] may evaluate his own governance. He can do this when, with the deepest understanding, he lays upon himself the reproach Caesar non est supra grammaticos. [Caesar is not above grammar.]"

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Charles Darwin
Discovered evolution and natural selection

"A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections - a mere heart of stone."
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Edmund Husserl
First modern phenomenologist
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Leo Strauss
Revered classical scholar

"Thinking is seeing something noticeable, which makes you see something you weren't noticing."

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Albert Einstein
Nobel laureate in physics who discovered relativity

"To punish me for my contempt for authority, Fate made me an authority myself."

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S.E. Landsburg
Author of The Armchair Economist
"In the absence of explicit contracts, people who lecture other people on their 'responsibilities' are almost always up to no good."

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Jürgen Habermas
Philosopher of public culture
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Adam Smith
Founder of modern economics"Though your judgments in matters of speculation, though your sentiments in matters of taste, are quite opposite to mine, I can easily overlook this opposition; and (...) I may still find some entertainment in your conversation, even upon those very subjects."

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David Keirsey
Author of Please Understand Me I and II"It is to the Rational temperament that humanity owes its Directors, Inventors and Masterminds."

(Keirsey identifies himself as INTP.)

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Abraham Lincoln
U.S. president who won the Civil War and emancipated the slaves

"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy."
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Thomas Jefferson
Architect of the U.S. constitution and U.S. president "Be polite towards all but intimate with few."

"We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it."

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Paul Graham
Essayist, startup founder and startup investor
"Rebellion is almost as stupid as obedience. In either case you let yourself be defined by what they tell you to do."
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Xenophanes
Presocratic epistemologist who posited a universal morality

"If an act is blameworthy it is blameworthy no matter who the perpetrayor; god or man."
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D.T. Suzuki
Major figure in bringing Zen to the West
"Not to be bound by rules, but to be creating one's own rules - this is the kind of life which Zen is trying to have us live."

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Milton Friedman
Nobel laureate in economics and libertarian philosopher "To really understand something you've got to reduce it to its principles."

 
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Part II :p

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N. Gregory Mankiw
Harvard professor of economics, blogger and author of Principles of Economics
"In my view, it is best to consider all knowledge as tentative. The best scholars maintain an open-mindedness and humility about even their own core beliefs."

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Max Weber
Founder of sociology
"The modern world is but a convergence of factors so unlikely to occur as to be practically an accident."


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Richard Dawkins
Author of 'The Selfish Gene' and self-proclaimed 'militant atheist'
"What worries me about religion is that it teaches people to be satisfied with not understanding."

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Dogen Zenji

Founder of the Soto Zen school and Japan's greatest philosopher
"A zen master's life is one continuous mistake."
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Hilary Putnam
American analytical philosopher

"[To] help me to develop new ideas [I use] self criticism ... I am always dissatisfied with something ... I have previously written."


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James Madison
Architect of the U.S. constitution and U.S. president
"If we are to take for the criterion of truth the majority of suffrages, they ought to be gotten from those philosophic and patriotic citizens who cultivate their reason."


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Eric Berne
Psychoanalyst and Author of Games People Play


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Nagarjuna
Indian philosopher of 'emptiness' and the founder of the Mahayana school of Buddhism


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Thucydides
First Western rationalist historian who founded history as a science

"Few things are brought to a successful issue by impetuous desire, but most by calm and prudent forethought."
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Marie Curie
Nobel laureate in physics and a pioneer in radiation
"Be less curious about people and more curious about ideas (...) There are sadistic scientists who hurry to hunt down errors instead of establishing the truth."


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Franz Kafka
Schizoid modern fiction writer whose work is amongst the most important of the 20th century
"Jewish schoolboys in our country often tend to be odd; among them one finds the most unlikely things; but something like my cold indifference, scarcely disguised, indestructible, childishly helpless, approaching the ridiculous, and brutishly complacent, the indifference of a self-sufficient but coldly imaginative child, I have never found anywhere else."


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Sam Harris
Author of The End of Faith and campaigning atheist

"We do not respect people's beliefs. We evaluate their reasons. If my reasons are good enough for believing what I believe, you will helplessly believe what I believe. (...) That is what it is to be a rational human being. Respecting other people's beliefs never enters into it."

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Martha Nussbaum
American classical scholar and political philosopher

"It is always possible to retreat into your own thoughts, to say 'I will live for my own thoughts, for my own comfort, for my own revenge.'"

"I think the prime concern of philosophers is that you can never trust your own plans because everything is so fragile. So how are you going to live?"

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Gary Kasparov
World no. 1 chess player and former political campaigner to reinstate liberal democracy in Russia

"In everything you do analyse yourself and analyse your opponents. What are your strengths and weaknesses? What are his strengths and weaknesses? Analyse the field and then play by that."
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Flemming Rose
Editor of the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten who solicited and published the controversial Muhammad cartoons

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Judith Rich Harris
Author of The Nurture Assumption


"Whatever I learned about developmental psychology and social psychology I learned on my own.
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"It is difficult to disprove assumptions because they are, by definition, things that do not require proof. My first job is to show that the nurture assumption is nothing more than that: simply an assumption. My second job is to convince you that it is an unwarranted assumption. (...) During the years I was writing textbooks, I believed the evidence too. But then I looked at it more closely and to my considerable surprise it fell apart in my hands. The evidence (...) does not prove what it appears to prove."
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Elinor Ostrom
Nobel laureate in economics


[Talking about her childhood weekend visits at her aunt's home:]

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif]That was a wonderful experience for me, the Friday night discussions they had. It was a serious kosher home, and the Friday night discussions were very serious."[/FONT]
Swedish Wire interview: "People who [know Ostrom] say her formidable intellect is tempered by her innate kindness and quick-to-laugh personality. Jacqui Bauer, assistant director of [Ostrom's workshop in Political Theory and Policy Analysis], said Ostrom is 'sort of an internal contradiction. She is personally unforgiving, meaning, with herself. But she's endlessly forgiving of others.'"
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Maria Goeppert-Meyer
Nobel laureate in physics
"Winning the prize wasn't half as exciting as doing the work."
About INTPs
  • Abstract analysts
  • Amongst the types with the highest average IQ
  • Strongly linked to the Schizoid and Schizotypal personalities
  • Somewhat linked to the Anti-social and Negativistic personalities
  • More common amongst men than amongst women
  • Repress their Feeling function
 
I think Dawkins is an ENTP, not an INTP.

I also think Sam Harris is an NF. ENFJ? I dunno, he strikes me as an ENFJ trying to be as reserved and logical as possible, but in his books he just sounds so much like every ENFJ I know. Maybe I know some weird ENFJs, though.
 
I think Dawkins is an ENTP, not an INTP.

I also think Sam Harris is an NF. ENFJ? I dunno, he strikes me as an ENFJ trying to be as reserved and logical as possible, but in his books he just sounds so much like every ENFJ I know. Maybe I know some weird ENFJs, though.

I agree with Harris, his writing strikes me as rather F-like. I recommend him to my F friends when they ask about religious questions, because his arguments are more personal. I'm pretty sure Dawkins is an introvert though.
 
I want to have sex with this thread. I think Milton Friedman was an ENTJ, Socrates could be an XNTP, and Abraham Lincoln might not be an INTP. Is Richard Dawkins an INTJ and Harris an XNFJ?
 
Most of the list looks spot-on, with the exception of Newton (who was probably INTJ).
Da Vinci was probably xNTP, while Lincoln is indeed ambiguous (although I personally think he was an INTP).
So what about Sagan, Dawkins, and Harris? What are their types????

Also, what do you guys think of Martha Nussbaum?
 
I have a theory Ben Franklin could be an unusually gregarious INTP, the sheer range of fields he explored seems to point to it, not to mention flying a kite in a thunderstorm to see if he'd get owned by nature, which is something an INTP would do for sure.

Also, I doubt Dawkins was is an INTP, really his ego seems bigger than ours on average.

And he uses the most glaring and massive straw man argument I've ever seen in the God Delusion by assuming all Christians must be Young Earth creationists. The Pope believes in Evolution, for crying out loud. I don't think I would be able to release a book fundamentally based on a fallacy, as an INTP. If he is an INTP, he has sacrificed logic to make his point.

Incidentally, I will not answer any replies about religion, so as not to derail this thread.
 
And he uses the most glaring and massive straw man argument I've ever seen in the God Delusion by assuming all Christians must be Young Earth creationists. The Pope believes in Evolution, for crying out loud.
I highly doubt Dawkins actually assumes that all Christians are Young Earth creationists.
Page number, please.

I still think Noam Chomsky is an INTP.
Of course he is, without question. (Some of the typings in that list are just grossly inaccurate).
 
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