[The Nameless Composer]

I know every person has their own distinct personality, but we can broadly be categorised with different types. Divided differently ccording to the MBTI, Socionics or Enneagram.

I'm an INFP 5w4, which is the 'Investigator/Iconoclast', and I feel it's the more 'head-dominant' thinker/analytical type of INFP, rather than say a type 9 or 4. I still have a lot of the typical trademarks of an INFP: I'm idealistic, driven by internal feelings values, sentimental, romantic.etc, but I've always felt that my thinking functions were more developed than MOST INFPs, I could be a little more impartially rational (not saying emotional doesn't mean rational), and never really related to the 'butthurt' stereotype. I'm often seen as brainy, but also sort of laid-back and 'level-headed'. I can be internally sensitive though. In fact it seems other people get more personally offended than me, of any type.

I used to get INTP as a teen, and some cognitive function tests suggest INFJ, but thinking it through, I'm pretty sure I'm an INFP. Fi is consistently right up there. I've always been seen as a 'dreamer', idealistic etc (others have used that to describe me) driven by sentiment. I was also really concerned with fairness and animal cruelty from a very young age. Compulsively creative with an especial affinity for creative writing. But my Ti and Te are quite high in my stack (well near the middle). For awhile I described myself as an 'INFP/INFJ/INTP' hybrid. Anyway, yes, I've noticed those in the INFP facebook group I get along most with are a bit more 'thinkery' or intellectual than most INFPs. I mean I can listen and sympathise and feel, but I tend to be more interested in 'intellectual' and topical discussions more than most there. I find the INTPs actually a little lacking in personal content. In tests I invariably score near the middle on the thinking/feeling spectrum, but usually on the thinking side. I'm pretty sure I utilise Fi/Ne though.

Have you felt similarly? I mean it ironic that I'm seen as this brainy thinker yet Te is last on my stack. I engage in a lot of Ti hypothesising but there's always a lot of emotional content there, too.

 

[Swordsman of Mana]

I know every person has their own distinct personality, but we can broadly be categorised with different types. Divided differently ccording to the MBTI, Socionics or Enneagram.

I'm an INFP 5w4, which is the 'Investigator/Iconoclast', and I feel it's the more 'head-dominant' thinker/analytical type of INFP, rather than say a type 9 or 4. I still have a lot of the typical trademarks of an INFP: I'm idealistic, driven by internal feelings values, sentimental, romantic.etc, but I've always felt that my thinking functions were more developed than MOST INFPs, I could be a little more impartially rational (not saying emotional doesn't mean rational), and never really related to the 'butthurt' stereotype. I'm often seen as brainy, but also sort of laid-back and 'level-headed'. I can be internally sensitive though. In fact it seems other people get more personally offended than me, of any type.

I used to get INTP as a teen, and some cognitive function tests suggest INFJ, but thinking it through, I'm pretty sure I'm an INFP. Fi is consistently right up there. I've always been seen as a 'dreamer', idealistic etc (others have used that to describe me) driven by sentiment. I was also really concerned with fairness and animal cruelty from a very young age. Compulsively creative with an especial affinity for creative writing. But my Ti and Te are quite high in my stack (well near the middle). For awhile I described myself as an 'INFP/INFJ/INTP' hybrid. Anyway, yes, I've noticed those in the INFP facebook group I get along most with are a bit more 'thinkery' or intellectual than most INFPs. I mean I can listen and sympathise and feel, but I tend to be more interested in 'intellectual' and topical discussions more than most there. I find the INTPs actually a little lacking in personal content. In tests I invariably score near the middle on the thinking/feeling spectrum, but usually on the thinking side. I'm pretty sure I utilise Fi/Ne though.

Have you felt similarly? I mean it ironic that I'm seen as this brainy thinker yet Te is last on my stack. I engage in a lot of Ti hypothesising but there's always a lot of emotional content there, too.

based on this, you sound a little more 5w6 than 5w4. 5w6 is typically the more "brainiac" 5.

 

[The Nameless Composer]

based on this, you sound a little more 5w6 than 5w4. 5w6 is typically the more "brainiac" 5.

Nah I'm pretty sure I'm 5 with a 4 wing, not 6. While I do have that side, I'm more into the arts, history, culture, than hard sciences. Even with my interest in science, it was more about how inspiring it was to me, about the possibilities of things like faster than light travel or technology. I definitely identify with 4 too, and in one test i got almost equal for 5 and 4. I relate a lot more with the 5w4 type description than 5w6, and find overly fact-based science a bit dull. For instance I loathed chemistry in school.

 

[Swordsman of Mana]

Nah I'm pretty sure I'm 5 with a 4 wing, not 6. While I do have that side, I'm more into the arts, history, culture, than hard sciences. Even with my interest in science, it was more about how inspiring it was to me, about the possibilities of things like faster than light travel or technology. I definitely identify with 4 too, and in one test i got almost equal for 5 and 4. I relate a lot more with the 5w4 type description than 5w6, and find overly fact-based science a bit dull. For instance I loathed chemistry in school.

it's not quite that simple, and I wouldn't rely on tests. that said, I don't have enough evidence to tell you that you are a mistyped 5w6 at the moment, that was more of an impression.
PS: do you know your stacking?

 

[The Nameless Composer]

it's not quite that simple, and I wouldn't rely on tests. that said, I don't have enough evidence to tell you that you are a mistyped 5w6 at the moment, that was more of an impression.
PS: do you know your stacking?

One test scored me Ni, Fi, Si, Ti, but that does seem a bit odd.

 

[Swordsman of Mana]

One test scored me Ni, Fi, Si, Ti, but that does seem a bit odd.

before I continue, are you doubting your type for any reason? I don't want to turn this into a "type me" thread unless that's what you want, cuz that would be a major derail.

 

[The Nameless Composer]

before I continue, are you doubting your type for any reason? I don't want to turn this into a "type me" thread unless that's what you want, cuz that would be a major derail.

I kind of wasn't sure for awhile, but for reasons I've mentioned above and others I've settled on INFP. Am fairly sure I'm INFP.

 

[Swordsman of Mana]

I kind of wasn't sure for awhile, but for reasons I've mentioned above and others I've settled on INFP. Am fairly sure I'm INFP.

ok =)
in that case, do you know your instinctual stacking (Social, Sexual or Self Preservation)? my type is similar to you (ENFP 5w4) and the main reason why I feel strange among the 5s is that Sexual 5 is kind of the black sheep of the 5 subtypes (most emotional, less competency oriented, more likely to be a Feeler)

 

[UnicornRainbowLove]

Judging by the forum I haven't noticed that the INFP Fives like to wave with an intellectuality label. They are mostly anti-hierarchical idealists and will resist portraying themselves as in some way superior, although they may secretly like to be considered smart. It's like being a good Christian without trying to get into Heaven.

 

[Mac The Knife]

Judging by the forum I haven't noticed that the INFP Fives like to wave with an intellectuality label. They are mostly anti-hierarchical idealists and will resist portraying themselves as in some way superior, although they may secretly like to be considered smart. It's like being a good Christian without trying to get into Heaven.

That was really well said though, I do not actively participate in any specific "religion" I did however know what you meant! And I'm now sitting slightly better with myself as an INFP 5w4, 1w2, 4w5. So thank you!

 

[Fern]

Is there ever a time INFP's don't feel as if they don't quite fit?

 

[CrudeAsAButton]

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[The Nameless Composer]

Judging by the forum I haven't noticed that the INFP Fives like to wave with an intellectuality label. They are mostly anti-hierarchical idealists and will resist portraying themselves as in some way superior, although they may secretly like to be considered smart. It's like being a good Christian without trying to get into Heaven.

That's me to a tee.

 

[The Nameless Composer]

I'm a 4w5 INFP. While I value my creative abilities, I've never really identified with the "dreamer" (While I have high personal aspirations, I think the dreamer mentality is futile) or "romantic" (I enjoy not having to rely on other people for my emotional well-being) descriptions either. What I have found is that my 5 wing manifests itself in my need to understand people deeply.... and this is probably what led me to the Enneagram. I love to psychoanalyze others and myself. While I am a very sensitive and emotional person, I'm not full of whimsy as INFP/4 descriptions often show. I think they're just poor, cast-a-wide-net descriptions and that's what's throwing you off. But I find that the Enneagram has more tools for narrowing down variations in type (wings, tritypes, instinctual variants), whereas Myers-Briggs just seems to broad for me and doesn't have a means of assessing how these variations fit in. Oh, and just because you're not Te doesn't mean you can't be intellectual. It just means you assess situations from a from an empathetic standpoint rather than a calculated, utilitarian one.

Yeah I think that explains my deep interest in psychology and figuring people out. I do make it personally and feel empathetic, but at the same time it's an interesting puzzle to work out, or i treat them as a 'case.' I tend to like to play shrink or something when counselling people, because I like to take a surprisingly systematic approach at times, even when not realising it.

 

[The Nameless Composer]

ok =)
in that case, do you know your instinctual stacking (Social, Sexual or Self Preservation)? my type is similar to you (ENFP 5w4) and the main reason why I feel strange among the 5s is that Sexual 5 is kind of the black sheep of the 5 subtypes (most emotional, less competency oriented, more likely to be a Feeler)

No, I don't. What does that even mean?

 

[atenea]

Judging by the forum I haven't noticed that the INFP Fives like to wave with an intellectuality label. They are mostly anti-hierarchical idealists and will resist portraying themselves as in some way superior, although they may secretly like to be considered smart. It's like being a good Christian without trying to get into Heaven.

That describes me pretty well.

Yeah I think that explains my deep interest in psychology and figuring people out. I do make it personally and feel empathetic, but at the same time it's an interesting puzzle to work out, or i treat them as a 'case.' I tend to like to play shrink or something when counselling people, because I like to take a surprisingly systematic approach at times, even when not realising it.

I can relate to that so much. I work as a clinical psychologist and the part I enjoy the most about it is when, in the first sessions, I try to undestand how my patient's mind and emotions work, as exactly as possible, and come to a diagnosis. It's an interesting puzzle, as you said.

I also like listening to people`s problems and feelings in my personal life, empathyzing with them and making them feel undestood. I get a special pleasure when I feel I'm able to understand another person's thoughts and feelings in a situation that I've never experienced; it makes me feel proud of my empathetic abilities.

 

[The Nameless Composer]

That describes me pretty well.



I can relate to that so much. I work as a clinical psychologist and the part I enjoy the most about it is when, in the first sessions, I try to undestand how my patient's mind and emotions work, as exactly as possible, and come to a diagnosis. It's an interesting puzzle, as you said.

I also like listening to people`s problems and feelings in my personal life, empathyzing with them and making them feel undestood. I get a special pleasure when I feel I'm able to understand another person's thoughts and feelings in a situation that I've never experienced; it makes me feel proud of my empathetic abilities.

Yes I think that combination is what makes a lot of INFPs and INFJs good counsellors, community service workers, psychologists.

 

[Moonshake]

5w4 here. Wish there was a separate community of INFP 5W4s, because we are so different from the majority of INFPs. I for one personally enjoy reading and participating in the INTP forums more... I'd rather have intellectual, objective, to-the-point conversations than talk about each other's feelings.

Definitely don't relate to the 'cute, fluffy, naive' INFP stereotype. Its the last thing I actually identify with.

 

[Moonshake]

Double post.

 

[Mac The Knife]

5w4 here. Wish there was a separate community of INFP 5W4s, because we are so different from the majority of INFPs. I for one personally enjoy reading and participating in the INTP forums more... I'd rather have intellectual, objective, to-the-point conversations than talk about each other's feelings.

Definitely don't relate to the 'cute, fluffy, naive' INFP stereotype. Its the last thing I actually identify with.

I would have to agree, though at times I'm sure I may seem like that to outside observation on specific occasion. Those things you mentioned are the ONLY turn offs I had when trying to find my type and when I learned I was INFP. I saw that theme, and puked in my mind, I'm actually kind of an asshole though I don't verbalize it or show it. I defiantly don't find myself always 'seeing the good in people' which they claim is a INFP trait. Yes, I do it on occasion but typically I'm pretty critical of others. And find myself more intrigued by INTP/INTJ posts, which I know for fact I'm neither of those two types.