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I?FP 6w7 Sp/Sx

 

I know. I see both Fi and Ni in her lyrical writing style.
She uses symbolism and metaphors.
Example: The song "Lithium" could be interpreted as a song about manic depression...
However, she wrote it about an abusive relationship.
I have a hard time with this one. She seems like a very private person- even in interviews.
She was hesitant to reveal that she was engaged and didn't until she was "caught" with a ring on her left finger and was quite bleak with the story behind it.
I think we could only type her by her lyrical style- which isn't the greatest indicator in the world.
There's no evidence to provide whether she's a "P" or a "J" either.
I'm sure about "I" and I'm sure about "F" though. That's completely obvious.
I still question what typology Ben Moody (The writer of "My Immortal") is as well.
Even though he left the band- but that's a different topic.

 

Judging by what she says, does and sings about, the little insight we have in the personal life..she is 6w7 4wx xwx sp/sx imo. Her songs have meaning, deeper meaning, the lyrics need to be put together and understood, it isn't very straight forward stuff. This usually denotes intuition over sensing. INFx probably.

 

definitely, I think she's 6w7-4w5-9w8 Sp/Sx personally

 

@Swordsman of Mana: Searching around on Google- I've found people to claim that Amy Lee herself is INFJ (due to using a lot of Ni and Ti) where as Evanescence as a whole is IxFP based. Some people are claiming that Amy Lee herself is ESFP- be still my beating heart, I don't think that one is a good possibility.

 

@<span class="highlight"><i><a href="http://personalitycafe.com/member.php?u=17309" target="_blank">Swordsman of Mana</a></i></span> : Searching around on Google- I've found people to claim that Amy Lee herself is INFJ (due to using a lot of Ni and Ti) where as Evanescence as a whole is IxFP based. Some people are claiming that Amy Lee herself is ESFP- be still my beating heart, I don't think that one is a good possibility.

she talks very much like an NFP to me.

 

Compare that to thehotavocado, she is a real INFJ (the Fe shows in her facial expressions).

Amy comes across more INFP.

 

Compare that to thehotavocado, she is a real INFJ (the Fe shows in her facial expressions).

Amy comes across more INFP.

That's true as well. I forgot about that! She has a flat expression most of the time.
I'm sold on INFP.

 

I really believe INFJ hard for this one. I've seen A LOT of her interviews and her expressions are not flat. Not one bit. She talks with her hands and her facial expressions and generally has a constant flow of speech. I've been to her concerts too. Her facial expressions are very apparent and very expressive.

 

what makes you think Ni/Fe over Fi/Ne or Fi/Se?

 

She is cryptic and vague. Just look at her lol. Her songs could mean any number of things. On wiki as well as other sources it's said that her songs "seem to be" or "probably are" or "apparently" or "reported to be". Amy barely confirms, she's very private. The first thing she said coming off her hiatus, "We're just really excited to be back. The bands really happy. We're all good." I've only see her refer back to herself when she was directly asked or when she was directly asked why she did a certain thing or wrote a certain thing.

 

as you said, we are typing her, not her lyrics. her communication IRL is much more clear and she easily communicates ideas and concepts. INJ communication is often much more difficult to understand

 

I'm just going to slide back in here for a minute (laughs).
I am not going to say who I am or what I'm referring to when I say this- just to disclaim.
I do interviews as well and when I'm being interviewed, I am clear because it is my passion.
It's what I've worked on for so long, it's me.
I talk with my hands, I have the same expressions on my face.
I'm not comparing myself to Amy Lee, I'm just stating that anyone can interview a certain way.
Would people type me INFP or some other typology from what they got out of the interview?
Or from the way that I presented myself to the public?
I'm going INFx. It's impossible unless you know the person underneath the business.

 

I'm just going to slide back in here for a minute (laughs).
I am not going to say who I am or what I'm referring to when I say this- just to disclaim.
I do interviews as well and when I'm being interviewed, I am clear because it is my passion.
It's what I've worked on for so long, it's me.
I talk with my hands, I have the same expressions on my face.
I'm not comparing myself to Amy Lee, I'm just stating that anyone can interview a certain way.
Would people type me INFP or some other typology from what they got out of the interview?
Or from the way that I presented myself to the public?

I would have to see you, but if you interviewed like Amy Lee, yes, INFP would be my first guess. as an NFP though, attempts to present one's self a certain way to the public are clear as day to me, hence telling NFJs and NFPs apart is usually very easy for me as NFJs tend to care much more about and focus on the opinions of others. NFPs might care about what others think, but unless we're talking about close friends or loved ones, it is seldom if ever a preoccupation like it is for NFJs.

 

Amy Lee is an INFJ. She doesn't operate like an INFP.

 

I don't think Amy Lee is an INFJ. I don't see any Ni.
She is an ISFJ.

 

She seems to be an ISFP who uses a lot of Ni. She uses more Fi though. 4w3 definitely

 

She definitely has Fi. I'm thinking she's an ISFP, who seems extroverted, like Kat Von D.

 

thinking about it more, ISFP makes a little more sense than INFP.

currently, my opinion is ISFP 6w7>4w5>9w8 Sx/Sp (or, more specifically, ISFP 6w7(sw5w6)>4w5(sw3w4)>9w8(sw8w7) Sx/Sp~Wanderer)

 

She's pretty obviously a 6w7. I'd guess INFP.

 

I don't see P in Amy. She seems more J.

 

looking at P/J is sometimes a good place to start if you can't pinpoint functions, but Amy Lee is clearly an Fi dom, so there's no way she's a J.

 

Maybe she seems like Fi and outgoing but also intuitive to the intuitives because she's ENFP?? To be honest to me she seems most like an ENFP. That's my first impression. I admit I don't listen to her music nor have I watched interviews of her before. But to me looking at the clip she has that type of a charged boyant and confident energy that is typical of ENFPs. The way she speaks about the recording sounds like she's genuinely being very enthusiastic about it there and then.
I'm posting from my phone while holding a squirmy toddler so I can't look for a good comparison right now but compare to Mike from NF geeks. I think there's similiar vibery going on.

EDIT: For comparison ENFP
http://youtu.be/hL1L2wA1idI

 

Infj.

 

The way I see the need to create as a songwriter... I wouldn't really put it as "writing for other people" so I have said things like "I write for myself and myself alone" Maybe when I started out I had lofty ideas of exposing people to these ideas I felt needed a voice but ultimately I have found that it's like a horn makes a horn sound and a guitar makes guitar sounds. Horns don't need to try to sound like horns. they'll do it regardless. intent is wasted energy. We're like the Instruments of the muses. We make the sounds we're supposed to make.
I don't put much value into authorship. I find there are these stories floating out there. wether it's the in the collective subconscious or the aether or a separate song dimension... There the motifs are. We pick them up and translate them through our "instrument".
I don't try to influence people. I try to listen and hear the stories coming from that space X and craft a form for them. They are personal as I am the instrument and my human existence, experiences etc influences the tone and manifestation of The song. My personal intimate experience, sorrows, hopes etc shape the music but a kind of a template exists despite of me.
I wouldn't say I write for others though, despite aux Fe.

 

I am a definite Fi-dom and Fi works in a way in personalizing things to themselves. That is what it means. Fi allows stimuli to mean something significant to a person through relations of memories, personal views and understanding. Fe is the opposite. It allows a person's understanding and feelings of a certain to stimuli to be projected and placed to their external world.

Amy Lee seems Fe because it seems she considers the way she feels things to how her life is. She analyzes how her feelings make a situation not how the situation makes her feel. In her lyrics she tends to describe something happening and what certain pieces of information mean which points to Ni.

Playground school bell rings again
Rain clouds come to play again
Has no one told you she's not breathing?
Hello, I'm your mind giving you someone to talk to
Hello

If I smile and don't believe
Soon I know I'll wake from this dream
Don't try to fix me, I'm not broken
Hello, I'm the lie living for you so you can hide
Don't cry

Suddenly I know I'm not sleeping
Hello, I'm still here
All that's left of yesterday

It's a style different to an INFP. Like Fiona Apple's lyrics:
Every single night
I endure the flight
Of little wings of white-flamed
Butterflies in my brain
These ideas of mine
Percolate the mind
Trickle down the spine
Swarm the belly, swelling to a blaze
That's when the pain comes in
Like a second skeleton
Trying to fit beneath the skin
I can't fit the feelings in, oh
Every single night's a light with my brain...

What'd I say to her
Why'd I say it to her
What does she think of me
That i'm not what I ought to be
That i'm what I turned out to be
It's got to be somebody else's fault
I can't get caught
If what I am is what I am, cause I does what I does
Then brother, get back, cause my breast's gonna bust open
The rib is the shell and the heart is the yolk yolk
And I just made a meal for us both to choke on
Every single night's a fight with my brain...

I just wanna feel everything
I just wanna feel everything
I just wanna feel everything

So i'm gonna try to be still now
Gonna renounce the mill a little while and
If we had a double-king-sized bed
We could move in it and i'd soon forget
That what I am is what I am cause I does what I does
And maybe i'd relax, let my breast just bust open
My heart's made of parts of all that surround me
And that's why the devil just can't get around me
Every single night's a light, every single night's a fight
And every single fight's alright with my brain...

I just wanna feel everything
I just wanna feel everything
I just wanna feel everything
I just wanna feel everything



I find Ne and Fi tend to connect feelings and metaphors for everything. Their lyrics never blatantly tell you what is happening. I know because I do that too.

An INXJ (INFJ most likely) is MM.

There's something cold and blank behind her smile
She's standing on an overpass
In her miracle mile
[coma:]
"You were from a perfect world
A world that threw me away today
Today to run away"

A pill to make you numb
A pill to make you dumb
A pill to make you anybody else
But all the drugs in this world
Won't save her from herself

Her mouth was an empty cut
And she was waiting to fall
Just bleeding like a polaroid that
Lost all her dolls
[coma:]
"You were from a perfect world
A world that threw me away today
Today to run away"

A pill to make you numb
A pill to make you dumb

Fe will like you tell how they feel or see something through a representation of story and Fi or Ne will more than likely like to describe it an analogy or a subtle describe. One will like to SHOW you and another wants to TELL.

 

ISFP.

If this interview doesn't scream ISFP, I don't know.

"I feel like this record has a lot more soul. In more ways that one. Mostly I mean, I just really went with what I felt, even more specific and true to myself."

 

Firstly, we can't separate her lyrics from herself because lyrics or writing is the way people express their inner feelings, thoughts, or attitude towards something. We can get a glimpse of someone's personality from what or how s/he writes.
Like what I quote from her interview with Culturecompass last year:

My lyrics are just- me, so I guess you’re just hearing who I am now.

So I guess we should also consider her lyrics to know her personality.
I'm sure she is N because Evanescence's lyrics use lot of metaphors and symbolism, and Amy wrote some hit tracks like Bring Me To Life, which is said inspired by her husband.
And she's definitely F because she expresses her emotions both on stage and off stage

I feel a weird connection to bad weather- it brings my feelings to life. I’ll be writing a song and start to feel like I’m on to something and then it will start pouring on cue.

But I think great art is something people feel connected to because it reminds them of their own life, and everyone with a heart will have it broken at some point. Often times the most honest expression comes from that broken place.

I also think she's I.

Now it's between P/J, but I'd rather say she's J because she sets goals for 5 years later. Being individualistic is not the case indicating that someone is P. I'm INFJ myself and I'm very surprised that my all Enneagram tests results are 4 (The individualists). I think Amy has the same case where she always emphasizes on the importance of expressing your true self and be yourself like her answers in many interviews.
I find there's a match between INFJ's parenting style with her tendency to encourage her siblings and fans to be independent

even though INFJ parents really want their children to be the best they can be (this is why they can be demanding), they also know that it is crucial to give them independence to form their own opinions and principles.

I am the eldest in my family, and have always been in that big sister role- its not entirely different from the way I feel about our fans. I always try to encourage people to be independent, creative and not to give up hope.

Aside from being independent, INFJs are also a bit society-oriented though they hate to be controlled by society. Amy is aware of her position as a public figure and what she says will affect people.
Plus her orientation for family speaks that she's more like an INFJ.

I love how the kitchen brings everyone together. I’ll be home with my parents, siblings and husband for a few days for a pretty traditional Christmas.

INFJs are also perfectionist while Amy admitted that she's a perfectionist. I guess from how she wants to comeback with impressive and meaningful tracks even if it needs 5 years of hiatus is better than coming back every year but with so-so music already tells us that she's perfectionist, at least she wants her music be as best as possible.

I maybe wrong because we won't really know someone unless we have met and had a conversation with them. Even the closest friend doesn't fully know who someone really is. She said

You can’t really know someone you’ve never met, and you can’t know the real story if you weren’t there.

But I think she's more like an INFJ than an INFP :tongue:
INFJs are complicated, they don't like being judged just from what people see on the outside.

 

Several of you mentioned that INFJs are more into serving the community, but as an INFJ myself (and having looked up to Amy Lee/Hartzler for as long as I can remember, not only as my primary idol but as someone I would love to sit down with and talk to), I can pretty confidently say that not all INFJs base their lives on "service" as many would define it. Many of us are writers, musicians, designers, and artists of other forms—but to us, this is a form of service. We are sharing a deep part of ourselves with the world. We are giving our emotions up to our listeners, readers, viewers, that they might appreciate our work and feel something. In interviews, Amy has mentioned people coming up to her and telling her that this or that song of hers changed their lives, inspired them, saved them from depression, and this touches her more than the cheering crowd.

One of the reasons I found this thread at all was that I recently discovered my identity as an INFJ, and like most INFJs, I latched onto it and have been looking into it ever since. Amy Lee is and always has been my favorite "celebrity" because of how much I have connected with her, and how private and personal and emotional and almost nerdy in the most wonderful of ways she is, and it only just occurred to me to look up her personality type to see if I wasn't the only one who felt this way. The fact that she is not only a passionate musician and lyricist but a designer and painter, married to a therapist (INFJs are very selective about who they choose for a romantic partner, and one of the main things we need for a relationship to work is for our partner to be deeply thoughtful and caring, which a therapist would certainly be), the fact that she doesn't want to be limited to Evanescence so she recently composed a score, AND that she was an important figure in the epilepsy awareness campaign Out of the Shadows, says to me that she is almost certainly an INFJ. INFPs are dreamers, idealists (not that there's anything wrong with that—I love INFPs). But Amy Lee is very much a creator, a fighter, and a doer. I vote INFJ.

 

Love her, thought of her as infj as well.

 

I also think ISFP.

 

Always thought of her as xSFP, ISFP seems more likely based on interviews from when she was younger (it would seem she has grown into her E side).
I see no signs of Ne in her at all tbh so Se seems more likely. ISFP.

 

Do you guys really think she's an introvert? I do not AT ALL get the impression when I read about her or watch her outtakes, interviews, backstage videos etc.... In early videos she seemed a bit insecure but that doesn't mean she can't be an extravert. I personally think she's an ENFP or ENFJ.


But I'll probably never get a response

 

Never say never. I decided to watch a few of her interviews after reading your post to see what impression I got. I also read a few where her views on things were mentioned. I'm familiar with her music also and was already taking her for an Fi user. Honestly, after processing all of it I'm thinking ESFP. I know that's a little funny because after I read back over this thread I saw on the first page ESFP was denounced very early, but I think they doth protest too much.

I was surprised as how direct she is in interviews. It didn't take me long to place her on the Fi-Te axis and she doesn't seem remotely shy to me, but seems almost at home answering questions in front of a camera. I also noticed in one interview a question was asked and she said she hadn't thought about that before, but was still able to give a very detailed answer off the top of her head. That kind of fluidity in conversation is usually a SP trait from what I've seen. Intuitives will stop and think, Si users will also want a second to recollect in an instance like that, because Si users will want to be well prepared for something like an interview and will have to shift gears for an unexpected question.

Additionally noteworthy, her Wikipedia page has a section with quotes from her about her public image.

"In an interview with VEVO stylized, Lee showcased and explained her fashion style, commenting that she would rather make her own clothes because it is hard to find what she exactly wants elsewhere.[81] In an interview with AOL, Lee stated that her daily style is very different from when she performs; pointing out that she was wearing "something floral" during the interview. She explained that her on-stage wardrobe was meant to preserve the atmosphere of the songs and complete the image. In another interview, she stated that when the band first started performing, she would wear corsets to avoid diluting the band's public image, but has gradually become more comfortable with her own style. Her most well-known on-stage style is often characterized by boots, a simple black tank top, a long skirt and various ornaments and accessories.[citation needed] However, while touring in promotion of Synthesis (Evanescence album), she wore long dresses in the vein of ball gowns."

That which I highlighted are things you often see with SeFi or FiSe musicians. I was going to share a video here at Personality Cafe about Paul Stanley from Kiss and his type and he often mentions many of the same themes in his work. With FiNe and NeFi musicians it's more about the music and less about the performance and the image.

 

OMG! There is no FUCKING dominant intuition in her! She's SFP no matter how much you want her to be part of your team.

 

Uh, isn't that what I just said? I mean, with a little more tact, but yeah.