Is hand-to-hand communication indispensable?

Sorry if it's too long.

It is only too long for those who claim to hate small talk, although they suffer whenever something is not small talk for once.

Well, second thing is that I'm sometimes overprotective. Idk if it's an ENTP thing.

What is not related to a personality factor or a combination of them has nothing to do with typology.

I know she is doing fine but I still find myself holding her hand very tightly when we cross the street. I know it's funny. (and it's not only for her. I'm overprotective about my brother or some friends as well.

I have not yet had a girlfriend where I feared that crossing the street would overwhelm her or end in kidnapping. If anyone could use help, it is I, because I do not always know whether I am in a country with right- or left-hand traffic, which is why I now look both ways before crossing, or rely on my hearing to save me the head movements and make the crossing more exciting.

It infuriated me when he touched her.

You seem to be possessive even before you are granted possessive rights. I see others as autonomous beings who decide for themselves what they want or do not want.

I was only jealous when we were not together.

Jealousy is alien to me; I always find it childish when once again someone has killed a competitor out of jealousy.

Then I told her: ''I love you. Don't be with him. Be with me.''

I see that you also recognise the right of third parties to present themselves as the better alternative at any time.

I'd like to read your stories as well.

Unfortunately I am not into storytelling. But it is good that you contradict the wrong assumption that ENTPs and INFPs do not belong together. I consider NP as my home turf, and IF adds some difference for further exploration.

Well, our issues are more about Fi and Fe stuff.

I am not into these consonant-vowel combinations. I had male and female IFP lovers and did not find them overly difficult to understand; I tend to believe that ENTPs are among the most adaptable types. As someone who scores low in neuroticism I avoid lovers who are the opposite.


Five Factor Model: Six Neuroticism Facets

NEO-PI-R

• Anxiety (N1)
• Angry Hostility (N2)
• Depression (N3)
• Self-Consciousness (N4)
• Impulsiveness (N5)
• Vulnerability (N6)

IPIP

• Anxiety
• Anger
• Depression
• Self-Consciousness
• Immoderation
• Vulnerability

Todd Grande: The Six Facets of Neuroticism

 

I have not yet had a girlfriend where I feared that crossing the street would overwhelm her or end in kidnapping.

Haha I know I seem crazy. I actually think nothing when we cross the street, it's just like a reflection. I'm trying to stop this because it's nonsense.

Jealousy is alien to me; I always find it childish when once again someone has killed a competitor out of jealousy.

You're right. I was jealous back then because I wanted to be with her. Now, I'm not jealous.

Thank you for your comment!

 

I’m an INFP woman and find ENTPs very attractive.

Your INFP sounds like a pretty Fi-focused INFP, and what I will say is: if she gives you Fi judgments or reprimands, don’t internalize them. If she is inexpressive, don’t internalize it. Communicate your misgivings to her, but also remind her that you love her. It’s easy to take on the perspective of one’s partner when you’re in love, but you must remember that your INFP is human and has her own flaws and deficiencies. Honestly, I’ve seen perfectly wonderful ENTP guys lose their confidence and joie de vivre over a sense that their INFP partner is not fully satisfied with them, and it’s honestly misplaced. Sometimes we INFPs don’t even know what it is that we want, and it causes us to become frustrated - but it’s nobody’s responsibility but our own to figure that out. ENTPs are some of the smartest individuals out there, and for INFPs they are a cauldron of insights and adventure.

 

Actually, she has well-developed Ne. Maybe the story I told might only show her Fi. And I don't have a problem with Fi, as well. Thanks for the advice!

 

I... hmmm... She isn’t cute?
I’m not sure what to make of that, but the cutest people I’ve met on the face of the planet were INFP. I kind of feel like either she is cute or she is not INFP lol

When I say cute I do mean puppies/fluffy bunnies/Disney on steroids - kind of cute.

They definitely have a serious side and they are very intelligent and imaginative with the Ne going on but, especially when they are in love, the Fi will be ALL over you, like you won’t even be able to get it off you lol Not that you would want to!

So how is she not cute?
If she is more serious than cute, and has strange emotional intensity going on... like she gives you eye contact and you think you’ll pee yourself haha.. (you did say “scary potential serial killer”!).. that sounds a lot more INFJ.
INFP are strong people in their own way, but they don’t come across as threatening.

Unless you were totally kidding and she is actually cute 😜

🥝she avoided it with only one sentence which made me shut up. She did it with a sarcastic calmness🥝

Hmm.. They can both be sarcastic occasionally but I would say INFJ is more sarcastic. INFP would prioritise F-style communication over T-style communication.

🥝She wasn’t confused, she somehow already knew I loved her🥝

This sounds like classic Ni.
Ne sees a world of possibilities but they are not always great with perspective shifting or predicting emotional state.

🥝our issues are more about Fi and Fe stuff. When I act romantic she doesn't directly react🥝

Hmmm Well your issues could also be that she’s hiding her Fe, so you’re seeing the Icy (Think Elsa in Frozen) Ni/Ti loop that INFJ has going on.. I can see both possibilities.

When she’s totally comfortable and you see her display emotion.. is she more contained or more straight-forward? Does she have a big smile? Is she facially expressive and expressive through body language when she is talking to you or telling a story?

 

I... hmmm... She isn’t cute?
I’m not sure what to make of that, but the cutest people I’ve met on the face of the planet were INFP. I kind of feel like either she is cute or she is not INFP lol

When I say cute I do mean puppies/fluffy bunnies/Disney on steroids - kind of cute.

They definitely have a serious side and they are very intelligent and imaginative with the Ne going on but, especially when they are in love, the Fi will be ALL over you, like you won’t even be able to get it off you lol Not that you would want to!

So how is she not cute?
If she is more serious than cute, and has strange emotional intensity going on... like she gives you eye contact and you think you’ll pee yourself haha.. (you did say “scary potential serial killer”!).. that sounds a lot more INFJ.
INFP are strong people in their own way, but they don’t come across as threatening.

Unless you were totally kidding and she is actually cute 😜

🥝she avoided it with only one sentence which made me shut up. She did it with a sarcastic calmness🥝

Hmm.. They can both be sarcastic occasionally but I would say INFJ is more sarcastic. INFP would prioritise F-style communication over T-style communication.

🥝She wasn’t confused, she somehow already knew I loved her🥝

This sounds like classic Ni.
Ne sees a world of possibilities but they are not always great with perspective shifting or predicting emotional state.

🥝our issues are more about Fi and Fe stuff. When I act romantic she doesn't directly react🥝

Hmmm Well your issues could also be that she’s hiding her Fe, so you’re seeing the Icy (Think Elsa in Frozen) Ni/Ti loop that INFJ has going on.. I can see both possibilities.

When she’s totally comfortable and you see her display emotion.. is she more contained or more straight-forward? Does she have a big smile? Is she facially expressive and expressive through body language when she is talking to you or telling a story?

Thank you for your comment ! She is definitely an INFP. (She's into mbti more than me and she confirms. And no way she's mistyped, she says.) The "She knew I loved her" part was like she felt it and she was scared from me to tell because she had a boyfriend. I could tell all the details but it's actually a longer story and I didn't give information about personality of hers. If I had given, you'd be sure she's an INFP, lol.

And about cuteness... She is cute for me but she's not that sensitive babygirl stereotype and I generally don't think INFPs like that. (I said potential serial killers because of her horror stories I sometimes think she's a psycopath or something. Many INFP writes are like that as well.) Her Ne is well developed and it leads us pure chaos because we always change our minds or we try to deal with 100 ideas at the same time haha. I love this NP chaos. I know INFJs are considered better match for ENTPs but no...

 

Also FYI.. INFPs will usually take care of you in an Fi/Si, almost motherly sort of way. They like to pamper you, cook for you, generally just make you feel good. Their romantic partner gets very very spoilt.

INFJ on the other hand can be a total B**** (I can say it since I am one lol)

So it won’t be hard to tell the difference.

 

Idk @Lauren222 his INFP gf description sounds just like my INFP buddy. She’s cute, but not AT ALL in a fluffy-bunny-Disney way. She values her individuality W A Y too much for that. She’s adorable in that she’s a little gremlin that thinks she’s tough (and definitely is if you brush against her Fi), but is really just a very kind person that wouldn’t harm anyone. She’s very sarcastic (Sarcastic calmness is actually a very fitting description of her. She can deliver dead-pan, dry humor like a pro), clever, quick-witted, and isn’t super comfortable displaying emotions, esp happy or lovey ones. She can’t hide when she’s grumpy or upset though, it oozes from her. She’s def a paradox. She’s so incredibly shy, yet wears the most ridiculous, stand-out clothes & doesn’t have an issue making a fool of herself sometimes. It always throws me off. I think you’re limiting both types (INFP & INFJ) too much.

 

That’s cool! Yes I noticed the Ne fashion statements. I really like this about INFP. I have another INFP friend who is an Instagram influencer and her style blows my mind.

I wasn’t limiting, but I could see both INFJ/INFP in his initial post. The cuteness.. maybe I shouldn’t have said Disney lol But yes, to me they are very adorable as people, so I associate them in my mind with all the traditionally cute things.
What threw me off was “serial killer vibe” because I didn’t realise he meant her writing style lolll

 

This story sounds delightful.
I know that Anne Shirley doesn't give the serial killer vibe, but when I think of the ENTP/INFP dynamic, for some reason I think of Anne and Gilbert from Anne of Green Gables. Seems like that would be their respective types.

 

As I know Anne is ENFP in the books but I don't know this adaptation. Thanks a lot for sharing

 

L.O.L. Disney is anti-I.N.F.P. Because it's a cut-throat company that cares about profit and popularity more than unconventional creativity and unconventional originality. It's a company controlled by American culture. American culture is based on anti-intellectualism, amoral capitalism, military terrorism, and a superiority complex. If American culture was a personality type, then it would be an E.S.T.J. Which is the opposite of I.N.F.P.

Disney is not very cute when you analyse how dark it is from the racism, sexism, drama, villains, and subtle adult language that naive children don't understand. I was actually emotionally disturbed as a kid when watching Disney movies when there were villains, drama, racism, and sexism because it all wasn't cute to me. Older Disney movies have racist themes because of black slavery and white supremacy that there normalised in American society in the past.

Otherwise, I would say jealousy is petty. I learnt that the hard way. Being possessive over a girlfriend won't represent selfless love entirely. I learnt that lesson. Also, healthy love is about helping your significant other be the best version of themself to help their well-being without being overcontrolling, overdemanding, physically abusive, emotionally abusive, verbally abusive, etc. Which is another lesson I've learnt.

 

Otherwise, I would say jealousy is petty. I learnt that the hard way. Being possessive over a girlfriend won't represent selfless love entirely. I learnt that lesson. Also, healthy love is about helping your significant other be the best version of themself to help their well-being without being overcontrolling, overdemanding, physically abusive, emotionally abusive, verbally abusive, etc. Which is another lesson I've learnt.

...friend...
...I'm... not... jealous...

I agree with you btw

 

Oh No. I wasn’t being political. It’s just how they make me feel inside. I was using the D word as a figure of speech 😉

 

Oh, I know you weren't. I just felt like venting. But maybe you could use that D for a figure of action if you know what I mean. 😉😏

 

Nope but my subtype is INFP and I m n ENTP. Are you sure she's not INFJ because that's our best match as ENTP's...

Also the overprotective bit is normal for dudes because you have a hormone called vasopressin that you release when you fall in love and that hormone makes you safety conscious and protective. Girls don't release this hormone. So yeah its normal.

 

Gross infps....

Disgusting.