Oh my god, I just finished watching the anime and reading the manga yesterday. It was so awesome!

Thanks for this, btw.

 

You read to the end huh? Any thoughts on Miria's type?

She's my favorite character in the series, but I'm not good at typing you damn NTs :|

 

Check your visitor messages, Bt. I'm starting to think Miria is a serious ESTP. >.> Though, it's so hard to tell with her.

I guess that's the sign of a good leader, their personality begins to transcend their type. Which is why famous people often have different types depending on the source.

But if you read your back story and she was like that, then she might still be an INFJ.

 

Here, I'll post what I posted on Bt's profile:

The more I think about Miria, the less I think she's an INFJ. I'm leaning toward ESTP now. She's a leader through action, not so much a philosophical leader as all INFJ-leaders are. Her personality doesn't give the ESTP vibe, though. They tend to use Fe as silly/goofy/fun charm. But there's no reason they couldn't be serious people, using Fe for their moral perspective.

Se as her top function actually makes a lot of sense to me.

ESTP's aren't really leaders at all... unless you put them in a situation where taking personal action is how you lead, which describes the Claymore world perfectly. If other people choose to follow them, that's up to those people, but they wont ask... nor am I sure they event want others following. This really describes Miria's behavior when she ditched the other claymores to attack the organization. An INFJ would have had no problem bringing others along so long as their ideals were in agreement. An ESTP is less likely to see things that way.

But like I said, ESTP doesn't fit the shoe perfectly either.

 

Here, I'll post what I posted on Bt's profile:



But like I said, ESTP doesn't fit the shoe perfectly either.

Nah, Miria is either Ni primary or Ni auxiliary. Se doesn't fit.

I mean look at the other ESTP character in the show for comparison, Helen. How many ESTP leaders have you seen through history :laughing:

In comparison to Helen, Miria comes across as far more intuitive, warm, and strategic.

 

Yep, make sense. She doesn't have the ESTP demeanor.

Though, apparently, Winston Churchill was an ESTP according to a source.

 

No shit? Really?

I could actually see Winston as an ESTP.

 

And now for my favorite Claymore character... Rigardo, The Silver-Eyed Lion King!

He's a Ti-dom INFJ!!! >.> Which makes him master of the Claymore universe.

And no one can argue, because there's not enough information on him to say one way or another... lol

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Oh and Jean is an ISFJ.

Unidine is too difficult because she's a fake personality masked over a real one. If we could figure out what her fake type is, we could assume that's her shadow personality, and find her true personality from that.

Flora seems more extroverted than Claire, so I am going to guess ENFP. But she might just be a slightly more outgoing INFP too.

 

Flora seems Se primary to me. She is far more observant. Something about her eyes... she seems to actually be sensing and perceiving the world more so than most of the other girls... and Flora's intuition isn't really all that strong, when you really take a closer look.

I see Jean as an ISFJ. /Salute Jean. Fucking loved her.

Rigardo is a definite Ni user... but Ti vs. Te... harder to tell. :|

 

Yeah there's no reason he couldn't be an INTJ over INFJ. But he's a Ti-dom INFJ damnit!

When he gets all riled up while fighting, his Fe gets awakened!

As for flora, ENFP's are more observant than INFP's because their Te is stronger. ESFP is possible, I guess, I don't know that type all that well. She's not an ISFP, though, she lacks that vibe. It's an NFP vibe to be honest.

 

^ Holy crap! I just realized your avatar is Rigardo! :crazy:

Nice! roud:

 

He was quite awesome in a short lived kind of way

 

I watched the anime, don't know how different they are,

Clare - INFP
Reasons stated above and so forth.

Ophelia - ENFP
(I see a Fi/Te axis going on there. Just with ruined ethics... ENFP maybe in tertiary loop. "Let's see how this game demonstrates my corrupted sense of fun with a Te face" )

Rocky - INFJ
(He's got the Fe, and I don't see him as an ISFJ)

Miria - INTJ>xxxx
Again I want to give her a Fi/Te axis. I'll check the wall posts though, see if it changes my opinion.
EDIT: Not sure for now, I need more convincing.

Jean - ISFJ
Agreed.

A lot of the claymore have the Fi thing going on... to become a claymore I think in itself lends to a Fi/Te use. I don't see Fe users alienating themselves from fellow human beings for an internal quest. A lot of the claymores went in for revenge or the ability to protect themselves.

Attacker - Revenge
Defender - Survive

Ti/Fe - Logically considerate action
Fi/Te - Ethically consistent action

 

A lot of the claymores went in for revenge or the ability to protect themselves.

But Miria's ethical reasoning is far more complicated than the others. Clare seeks revenge on a definite Fi-pathway, but Miria's internal dialog went more like this.

"The organization killed my best friend. They are evil and they must be destroyed." (This should be enough for subjective ethics (Fi). Fi goes off on what feels right to the user. After being forced to kill her best friend, destroying the organization should be more than justified)

However, Miria's ethical dialog does not end there. "But what about the fact that the organization protects humans? If I destroy the organization am I condemning humans to die at the hands of the Yoma?" For her to be unable to take revenge on the Organization due to the potential suffering of humans, in my mind, can only lead to one conclusion. Miria is an ethical objectionist (Fe user) (Objective morality based on the benefit or harm of all, not subjective morality based on her own feelings).

*Miria finds out that the organization creates the Yoma*

"The Organization commits these evils against us, and creates the Yoma? They must be purged." Miria's focus is on what's morally right, not on her feelings. This is why I see her as an Fe-user. And if she were an Fe-user, her strategic sensibilities, confidence, and analytical nature can only be explained by a very strong Ni-Ti loop.