Hi everybody
I've been obsessed with both the Enneagram and the Game of Thrones series/a Song of Ice and Fire books.Now, I'd like to combine the amazing GoT characters with the enneagram types. I hope I found the right place to post all my thoughts on the subject. I've found some other similar threads, but neither of them was really similar to my own opinions and motivations. So here are all my typings: I'd love to hear your opinions! To avoid spoiling, I've tried not to use concrete events from the story in my motivations. (Oh and by the way, English is not my mother tongue, so please point out if I made any language mistakes.)
Type 1:
-Brienne of Tarth. She's got a very black and white view of the world, and is incredibly stubborn.
-Stannis Baratheon. Obsessed with right and wrong, and self-questioning at times. Terribly rational.
-Varys. Idealistic and trying to bring his ideologies into the world. Self-reproaching. Perhaps the most healthy One in the show.
-Catelyn Tully. A One with a strong Two-wing. Stubborn and unforgiving, yet she has a tender Two-side.
Type 2:
-Jorah Mormont. I've read this somewhere, and I was immediately convinced. Jorah has always lived for the people (women) he loved. Probably 2w3.
-Tommen Baratheon. A guess, based on the show especially. Kind and trying to please everyone. Believes in the good in people.
-Lysa Tully. A Two at an unhealthy level. Hysterical and desperate for attention, which Jon Arryn never gave her.
Type 3:
-Margaery Tyrell. Excellent embodiment of a 3w2. Uses her talents to sympathize with others to climb higher in social ranks. Can adapt to any situation.
-Loras Tyrell. Mostly based on the books, where he seems pretty proud and ambitious.
-Theon Greyjoy. A 3w4 gone wrong. Threes always try to be successful according to the values of their surroundings. When with the Starks, he tries to be a Stark. When with the Greyjoys, he tries to be a Greyjoy. But actually, he has no true identity, as proven by the end.
-Joffrey Baratheon. Difficult to type, yet this is my guess. A boy trying to live up to the standard of his parents, and trying to exceed them.
Type 4:
-Rhaegar Targaryen. Five-wing. While long dead, still the best example of a Four. Reserved and melancholic. Pursues his own romantic dreams by abducting Lyanna.
-Viserys Targaryen. Three-wing. Less healthy than his brother. Retreats in his fantasies of being a king. Concentrates on his emotions rather than on logic. Jealous of his sister's success.
-Sansa Stark. Difficult, but my guess is 4w3. Wants to be special and to be loved by some idealized prince. Retreats in her mind in hard circumstances. Might also be a Nine, but I think she's focused too much on herself and her own personal happiness (at least in the beginning).
-Jojen Reed. Five-wing. Introverted, dreamy and guided by his feelingsand instincts. Not sure though.
Type 5:
-Doran Martell. Best example. Likes to observe and analyze before he acts.
-Roose Bolton. Same as above. Very private person.
-Petyr Baelish. Four-wing. Very reserved and observing. Values his independence. Doesn't trust anyone with his personal feelings.
-Tywin Lannister. A true guess: he's too introverted to be sure. But he's patient with situations and likes to observe from a safe distance (especially in the books, where he uses his brother Kevan to speak for him). Other options include a One, a Three or an Eight, although I don't know how introverted Eights can get.
-Melisandre. Difficult to type because religion has taken over so much of her personality. I've based my judgment on the Melisandre chapter in book Five. She observes her surroundings a lot, and is withdraw from the rest of the world.
Type 6:
-Ned Stark. Could be a One, but a Six seems more interesting, in his case 6w5. It's his loyalty to his family that drives him, and respects authorities. Does not easily trust people.
-Jaime Lannister. 6w7. Uses arrogance to protect himself against other people. Feels safe with his family.
-Cersei Lannister. A 6w7, like her brother. Weary of others, even paranoid. By bringing other people down, she tries to protect her own family.
-Sandor Clegane. A clear counter-phobic Six. Defies any authority. 6w5.
Type 7
-Robert Baratheon. 7w8. Enjoys excitement in life.
-Renly Baratheon. 7w6. Spontaneous and fun-loving, but also hesitant to act.
-Tyrion Lannister. 7w6. A successful Seven.
-Ramsay Snow. Makes decisions on the spot. Pursues his own (sadistic) pleasures.
Type 8
-Arya Stark. Very straightforward. Doesn't take shit from anyone. Intense feelings.
-Oberyn Martell. 8w7. Very passionate person.
-Robb Stark. A guess.
-Olenna Tyrell. Always says what's on her mind.
-Ygritte. Says what's on her mind. Not afraid to act.
-Asha/Yara Greyjoy. Has more balls than her brother.
-ser Alliser Thorne. Blunt and aggressive.
Type 9
-Davos Seaworth. 9w1. Probably the best example. Very modest. Interested in the greater good.
-Kevan Lannister. 9w8. Steps to the foreground when he has to, but generally remains silent. (This is why the show cut him out most of the time!)
-Jon Snow. I think 9w1, but I'm not sure. He tries to content two parties, the wildlings and the Night's Watch, as a mediator.
-Bran Stark. Retreats in his carefree dreams.
-Shireen Baratheon. Sweet, innocent, easygoing, optimistic.
I'm not an expert on the Instinctual Variants. I haven't been able to discover even my own variant. A few thoughts:
Sp: Ned Stark, Arya Stark, Cersei Lannister, Tywin Lannister
Sx: Jaime Lannister, Theon Greyjoy, Oberyn Martell
So: Sansa Stark, Renly Baratheon, Davos Seaworth
Well, what do you think?
I'm having some problems typing Daenerys. Maybe an Eight, but can Eights be so shy as she was? I've also thought 9w8, but I'm not convinced. Any thoughts on Daenerys and other characters I've missed?
I've been obsessed with both the Enneagram and the Game of Thrones series/a Song of Ice and Fire books.Now, I'd like to combine the amazing GoT characters with the enneagram types. I hope I found the right place to post all my thoughts on the subject. I've found some other similar threads, but neither of them was really similar to my own opinions and motivations. So here are all my typings: I'd love to hear your opinions! To avoid spoiling, I've tried not to use concrete events from the story in my motivations. (Oh and by the way, English is not my mother tongue, so please point out if I made any language mistakes.)
Type 1:
-Brienne of Tarth. She's got a very black and white view of the world, and is incredibly stubborn.
-Stannis Baratheon. Obsessed with right and wrong, and self-questioning at times. Terribly rational.
-Varys. Idealistic and trying to bring his ideologies into the world. Self-reproaching. Perhaps the most healthy One in the show.
-Catelyn Tully. A One with a strong Two-wing. Stubborn and unforgiving, yet she has a tender Two-side.
Type 2:
-Jorah Mormont. I've read this somewhere, and I was immediately convinced. Jorah has always lived for the people (women) he loved. Probably 2w3.
-Tommen Baratheon. A guess, based on the show especially. Kind and trying to please everyone. Believes in the good in people.
-Lysa Tully. A Two at an unhealthy level. Hysterical and desperate for attention, which Jon Arryn never gave her.
Type 3:
-Margaery Tyrell. Excellent embodiment of a 3w2. Uses her talents to sympathize with others to climb higher in social ranks. Can adapt to any situation.
-Loras Tyrell. Mostly based on the books, where he seems pretty proud and ambitious.
-Theon Greyjoy. A 3w4 gone wrong. Threes always try to be successful according to the values of their surroundings. When with the Starks, he tries to be a Stark. When with the Greyjoys, he tries to be a Greyjoy. But actually, he has no true identity, as proven by the end.
-Joffrey Baratheon. Difficult to type, yet this is my guess. A boy trying to live up to the standard of his parents, and trying to exceed them.
Type 4:
-Rhaegar Targaryen. Five-wing. While long dead, still the best example of a Four. Reserved and melancholic. Pursues his own romantic dreams by abducting Lyanna.
-Viserys Targaryen. Three-wing. Less healthy than his brother. Retreats in his fantasies of being a king. Concentrates on his emotions rather than on logic. Jealous of his sister's success.
-Sansa Stark. Difficult, but my guess is 4w3. Wants to be special and to be loved by some idealized prince. Retreats in her mind in hard circumstances. Might also be a Nine, but I think she's focused too much on herself and her own personal happiness (at least in the beginning).
-Jojen Reed. Five-wing. Introverted, dreamy and guided by his feelingsand instincts. Not sure though.
Type 5:
-Doran Martell. Best example. Likes to observe and analyze before he acts.
-Roose Bolton. Same as above. Very private person.
-Petyr Baelish. Four-wing. Very reserved and observing. Values his independence. Doesn't trust anyone with his personal feelings.
-Tywin Lannister. A true guess: he's too introverted to be sure. But he's patient with situations and likes to observe from a safe distance (especially in the books, where he uses his brother Kevan to speak for him). Other options include a One, a Three or an Eight, although I don't know how introverted Eights can get.
-Melisandre. Difficult to type because religion has taken over so much of her personality. I've based my judgment on the Melisandre chapter in book Five. She observes her surroundings a lot, and is withdraw from the rest of the world.
Type 6:
-Ned Stark. Could be a One, but a Six seems more interesting, in his case 6w5. It's his loyalty to his family that drives him, and respects authorities. Does not easily trust people.
-Jaime Lannister. 6w7. Uses arrogance to protect himself against other people. Feels safe with his family.
-Cersei Lannister. A 6w7, like her brother. Weary of others, even paranoid. By bringing other people down, she tries to protect her own family.
-Sandor Clegane. A clear counter-phobic Six. Defies any authority. 6w5.
Type 7
-Robert Baratheon. 7w8. Enjoys excitement in life.
-Renly Baratheon. 7w6. Spontaneous and fun-loving, but also hesitant to act.
-Tyrion Lannister. 7w6. A successful Seven.
-Ramsay Snow. Makes decisions on the spot. Pursues his own (sadistic) pleasures.
Type 8
-Arya Stark. Very straightforward. Doesn't take shit from anyone. Intense feelings.
-Oberyn Martell. 8w7. Very passionate person.
-Robb Stark. A guess.
-Olenna Tyrell. Always says what's on her mind.
-Ygritte. Says what's on her mind. Not afraid to act.
-Asha/Yara Greyjoy. Has more balls than her brother.
-ser Alliser Thorne. Blunt and aggressive.
Type 9
-Davos Seaworth. 9w1. Probably the best example. Very modest. Interested in the greater good.
-Kevan Lannister. 9w8. Steps to the foreground when he has to, but generally remains silent. (This is why the show cut him out most of the time!)
-Jon Snow. I think 9w1, but I'm not sure. He tries to content two parties, the wildlings and the Night's Watch, as a mediator.
-Bran Stark. Retreats in his carefree dreams.
-Shireen Baratheon. Sweet, innocent, easygoing, optimistic.
I'm not an expert on the Instinctual Variants. I haven't been able to discover even my own variant. A few thoughts:
Sp: Ned Stark, Arya Stark, Cersei Lannister, Tywin Lannister
Sx: Jaime Lannister, Theon Greyjoy, Oberyn Martell
So: Sansa Stark, Renly Baratheon, Davos Seaworth
Well, what do you think?
I'm having some problems typing Daenerys. Maybe an Eight, but can Eights be so shy as she was? I've also thought 9w8, but I'm not convinced. Any thoughts on Daenerys and other characters I've missed?