....correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am,

But wouldn't it be the same as asking for a fortress, "hey, hey, do you have any flaws? Any secret openings?"

 

oh! but i want to know about sentimental streak too! (pout) :wink: come on guys, let us in on ure secrets... :laughing:

 

I know three ENTJs, one female and two males. It is scary how similar they can seem.

I don't know about the female ENTJ, but the two males I know sound lovey-dovey when they are on the phone with their wives. They gush with "I love you's" and really don't seem like their normal selves. I don't know about other aspects of this part of their lives though. At least, none that I can think of now...

 

yes. that sounds like something id do. ugh, i hate loving someone. it turns you into a "touchy-feely mess" and messes with your head. seriously, i hate feelings:crazy:

 

Yes, the ISFP shadow can be unlocked. I don't even know how it is possible.

 

Actually had this happen!

True story.

I was doing shrooms one night, first time I've ever done them really, and while the confident, energetic ENTJ-personality of mine was wandering about seeking social interaction, having a great time enjoying the vigor of being great (thank your genes for being an ENTJ)!

1-hour into the trip, I decided to call up my mother in an attempt to say hi, whats up - still while in a fully blown shrooms trip - Well, this ended up in an emotional break-down of thanking my mother and my father for going through all the hassle of raising this proud individual (me ).

Long-story short, "love" was mentioned more than a dozen times, and I actually did my share of crying over the phone (hadn't cried in over 8 YEARS)

Oh and they thought I was smoking marajuana and drinking vodka

Anyways, they both know they are very much appreciated!

Life is short ladies and gentlemen, make the best of it with what you have

 

It is under a very stressful situation.
Especially if the ENTJ is in a romantic relationship that he/she does not want to lose.
Hence extreme stressful situation.

 

Yes. We have sentimental streaks. We're only human. We really aren't robots like everyone thinks lol

Only when it's rational.

I won't tell someone I think they are great individuals, unless I mean it and see they need it at that time( since ENTJ's don't like to lie), also, that they have proved they deserve it before.

It's very weird. My friends and family tell me I'm an extremely kind, and sentimental person(at times) but, I hear I'm a " cold, heartless, bitch" more often.:crazy:

 

"since ENTJ's don't like to lie"

I never got the memo saying that. I lie any moment where it will further the goal and/or smooth the sailing of the ship.

People's emotions are always so awkward and time consuming that if a little lie can make them more compliant, why not use that to an advantage?

 

Don't like to lie =/= can't lie. I avoid lying whenever possible, but not entirely banning it either if I have to (like facing SJs I can't get away from).

 

I never got the memo saying that.

Well, now you know.

 

Good example of ENTJ displaying ISFP shadow:

Steven Weinberg

Above Weinberg outlines a cold, heartless, tragic, impersonal, and perhaps even unhappy universe, without any ultimate whys. He definitely has what William James called a "tough-minded" attitude, which Jung related to extraversion-- skeptical, materialistic, pessimistic, fatalistic, etc. But then Weinberg goes on to say:

"If there is no point in nature, we can make a point for ourselves. We can find things to cherish that we value, we can love each other, we can create things that are beautiful."

Awwww, how sweet!

 

Good example of ENTJ displaying ISFP shadow:

Steven Weinberg

Above Weinberg outlines a cold, heartless, tragic, impersonal, and perhaps even unhappy universe, without any ultimate whys. He definitely has what William James called a "tough-minded" attitude, which Jung related to extraversion-- skeptical, materialistic, pessimistic, fatalistic, etc. But then Weinberg goes on to say:

"If there is no point in nature, we can make a point for ourselves. We can find things to cherish that we value, we can love each other, we can create things that are beautiful."

Awwww, how sweet!

Thanks for your great example Dude10000! I hadn't knew anything about him until I read your comment. After checking his autobiography and books, I found his world view and principle very much similiar to me, and I also want to be a scholar one day, but in the field of humanity. Any way, much thanks.

 

I have an awesome example of an ENTJ sentimental streak. This is my battalion chief who was interviewed with his urban search & rescue task force during Hurricane Katrina. He gets a little choked up about 2 minutes into the interview.

Sorry, since I haven't posted more than 10 times on the forum, I can't give you the link. I guess you'll just have to take my word for it!

 

Do I have a sentimental streak?
Yes. I didn't like it when i was younger but ive learned to accept it as part of who I am.
Do ENTJs? In that case, check out this thread:http://personalitycafe.com/entj-forum-executives/35022-who-how-choose-my-ideal-soulmate.html

 

Yes, I have a sentimental streak, especially towards objects, which I hate to throw away if they are in any sense nostalgic or meaningful (OCD?)

 

I totally do this as well - I've thought about whether or not it's because we can associate our emotions on objects without having to explain the whys/how come/reallys to it? Haha, but, I will say that after watching a couple of the Hoarding Reality shows... I'm easily breaking this habit. (I'm not any where near that bad either) :laughing:

 

Roger Scruton: Why Beauty Matters

 

Baby kittens make everyone sentimental, but...

O_O

cured yet?

 

Ew. No.

I'd feel too cheesy if I did and I hate when people around me get all sentimental. It actually makes me uncomfortable, even if music makes me feel slightly sentimental - unless I'm alone I can't enjoy it. Then it just becomes a very guilty pleasure. And then it goes onto my ipod and that's why I refuse to let people near my ipod. So, I suppose that's as sentimental as I get.

After about two weeks of this I'll delete the song, embarrassed even though no-one knew about it.

 

After about two weeks of this I'll delete the song, embarrassed even though no-one knew about it.

I'm exactly the same. No one touches my iPod for that reason.

 

My ISFP shadow at it's best.

 

I've said this in another thread, but I can be sentimental when drinking or when sleeping.

When drinking, I can be really fun and outgoing, an egocentric asshole, and on occasion very sweet and sentimental. In fact, my wife says that the sweetest I've ever been is when I'm drunk. One time I was terribly wasted and my wife had to take care of me - I had a sentimental streak telling her how thankful I was that she was taking care of me, in tears, as I was hanging over a toilet half naked.

And when my wife leaves before me in the morning to go to work and I'm half asleep, I tend to have sentimental goodbyes that I don't remember.

 

Ahh hah my boyfriend is so sweet when he's sleepy. It's adorable, just like catching them when their guard is down :blushed:

 

1) Rarely, it's situational.

2) I get frustrated and infuriated. Rage and anger build up inside, I feel like a weakling and inferior. On the outside I can hold my own, my friends gave me the nickname iceman.

3) Yes I do act on it. If I do nothing, I feel more like a weakling. I'm a metalhead so i'll listen to my favourite bands and go for a run/do pushups something physical in general.

4) I have no set procedures ruling what causes it. It's not as if boxes are ticked and suddenly "SENTIMENTAL STREAK MODE [enabled]"
In the past..
- When I lose at something I have trained hard at or my results in a exam do not reflect the hours I put in. Both of the 2 examples make me feel inferior, which hurts my pride.
- When with women I will only lower my pride barrier if I feel a genuine connection with her and she understands me (most people do not). If she can hold her own, is sexy, good in bed and is head-strong enough to engage against my sociopathic, cold, hardhearted and stubborn nature then there is potential for a soft spot to be hit. One girl I really liked said to me "On the exterior you're such a bad boy and tough but on the inside I know there's a sweetheart" and then I kissed her, couldn't resist. I don't like commitment, I like variety but after hearing I wanted to make her mine, to bad she moved overseas, she was fucking cool. I wouldn't be all lovey dovey, but she would have my undying loyalty and I wouldn't go sleeping around with other girls while I was boyfriend.

Her understanding me was the main thing, most girls find me intimidating or to cold to get to know. I'm all good with that, but the fact that she took the risk to get to know me even though she knew she was going head to head with a sociopath was admirable & I respected her for that. I knew she wasn't going to undermine me if I let her in. If my instincts signaled that it was all fake, there would be no way i'd let her in.

5) Does not last long, it is unproductive

 

2) I get frustrated and infuriated. Rage and anger build up inside, I feel like a weakling and inferior. On the outside I can hold my own, my friends gave me the nickname iceman.

3) Yes I do act on it. If I do nothing, I feel more like a weakling. I'm a metalhead so i'll listen to my favourite bands and go for a run/do pushups something physical in general.

4)
- When I lose at something I have trained hard at or my results in a exam do not reflect the hours I put in. Both of the 2 examples make me feel inferior, which hurts my pride.
- When with women I will only lower my pride barrier if I feel a genuine connection with her and she understands me (most people do not).

Are you sure you MBTI'ed yourself correctly?

There sure are a lot of "feel" in your statement :crazy:

 

I'm sure, this thread is referring to the SENTIMENTAL STREAK

 

You would think that people would put 2 and 2 together!

 

Happened in my teenage years but I sincerely doubt I'll experience something like that again.

 

Strike what's important. They're also subject to nostalgia. Fi inferior cannot be escaped.

 

Yes, I love nostalgia and find myself smiling like an idiot if a memory is triggered.

I thought that was Si though and I thought most ENTJs didn't like looking back at all.

 

Yes, I know like 4 ENTJ's and all of them have a sentimental streak. However, it is closely hidden because they believe that if they show it publically that they may be labeled as weak or soft, which is many an ENTJ's biggest fear.

 

Being called a weakling or a softy is not a fear, but a HUGE insult.

 

I get extremely sentimental when the concept of time is involved.

Gauging the progress of future events, and the fact that time is quickly a limiting factor once it has already passed by can really get to me.

I almost cried when watching the movie "Up!" during the initial sequence where the couple is young and ambitious, yet 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 birthday ties later, the girl quickly turns into an elderly woman, and well...

This is in parallel with my life and where it will also eventually go (kind of like witnessing your families funeral decades in advance).

Time leaves those behind that do not make the most it!

 

Emotions?

I'm an ENTJ, or at least that's what the tests have told me, and I think it know what it means by Sentimental streaks. Emotions obviously play a large part in life, but connecting those emotions with other people, or being empathetic, leads an entj like myself to stride and allow these emotions to be spread everywhere. For example, in a team environment an entj can connect issues within certain teammates and let the rest of the team know how they feel. It's a process of rationalizing human flaws/emotions and figuring out what to do with them.

 

Absolutely!

You know the commercial for Disney with all the families holding up those boards of them having fun and the melodramatic sweet pop music playing? I tear up just watching that. I'm a sniffling mess whenever I watch any sort of romantic/dramatic/sappy movie (but only when I'm by myself) and mood music puts me in exactly the mood expected. Sometimes, I really enjoy crying (usually while watching something sentimental) because it's emotionally cathartic. Here's the thing though: my INTP friend claims that's not truly emoting/being sentimental b/c it's all ~media~ and specifically tailored to make people tear up, lol.