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INFP type 5w4 - emotional or logical?

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#1 ·
Hello, INFP type 5w4's!

1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
5) How do you see INTPs?
6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?

So many questions^^ :D
I'm trying to find out how an INFP type 5w4 would be, because it was suggested that I could be an Fi dom.
It seems that I get influenced by my values (which in my opinion come from the 4 wing but could also be a strong Fi function)
 
#2 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
- I identify more with my Fi.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
- Yes and no. My values/feelings and logic seem to be really intertwined. I rely on my values and feelings but they also help me make the most logical decision if tuned correctly. If I deem some of my thoughts are irrational and very emotionally influenced, I let them out in a way that doesn't affect my important decisions.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
- It might be. I'm not sure lol

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
- I can redirect them. For example, when I'm overwhelmed by emotions, I refrain from making spontaneous decisions. I wait it out until I have calmed down and analyze them. I don't completely disregard my values and feelings but I don't let them influence me all together.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
- I don't know many INFPs. One INFP I know makes a lot of illogical big decisions led by their emotions. You won't see me doing that.

5) How do you see INTPs?
- Scary!! :D They come across as insensitive sometimes. I actually come across as INTP irl because I don't normally share my values and feelings with anyone. I'm always analyzing things out loud and I think that throws off people a bit.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
- No, I just brush them off if the person, who is criticizing, is doing it just for the hell of it and not because they care about me.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
- To a certain degree, yes. I'm always looking for explanations. I question a lot. Some people hate that lol
 
#8 · (Edited)
Wow thanks for the answers! Perhaps I'm one of you :p
I'll think about it ^^

How much do you agree with this: An INTP Profile ?
I saw me as an INFP when I learned about MBTI but all this emotional, personally offended, good with relationships etc. didn't really fit. Then I was totally satisfied with the INTP description above.
However it was lately suggested that I would be more Fi dom and not Ti (in socionics) because I didn't answered with definitions in the 80Q thread :p ( http://personalitycafe.com/whats-my-socionics-type/355090-80q-do-you-agree-my-type.html#post12813114 )
(For those who are not familiar with socioncs: INTPs are sometimes LIIs and INFPs are sometimes EII. Functions have the same name but can be different in their definition)

I have to say that definitions are not very important to me. I always thought that my values come from the 4wing but that Fi is more about relationships and analyzing their feelings (I'm a very detached type 5 so I often don't really know what I'm feeling :p) But I could see that I have a Fi function under all this detachement ^^. Or you are all Ti doms :p haha


5) How do you see INTPs?
- Scary!! :D They come across as insensitive sometimes. I actually come across as INTP irl because I don't normally share my values and feelings with anyone. I'm always analyzing things out loud and I think that throws off people a bit.
In what way are they insensitive? Do they behave wrong somehow? Are they too hard in their decisions? Are they oblivious to other feelings? Do you have examples?

Hm... I think I come across as INFP in real life but actually have a very logical core inside. But I'm never really showing it on the outside, I guess I don't like disharmony in my environnement. Instead I now wrote a lot about like and dislike in my questionnaire.

Is that a difference between Fi-Te and Ti-Fe? Fi-Te actually sensitive inside but then being totally blunt (Te). And Ti-Fe strict on the inside but need harmony on the outside? I definitely identify more with the latter but I don't know if INFPs are usually that blunt? But I heard that INFPs as Te users are better in academic institutions because they kinda like the "Te structure" there. Hmm...

1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
Fi all the way, Ti is like a mystery that I'd really like to understand more of. I think of Ti as "Lawyer logic".
Oh that's interesting, why lawyer logic? I rather see Te as lawyer logic and Ti not at all. Because lawyer logic is very strict with standardized rules, right? They have all these rules and acting on them Perhaps that more Te-Si actually. I would see me (and thus Ti doms) as someone who rather has fun destroying those rules because their own rules are more important (could be Ne in it though). Like for Fi doms I always think their feelings are more important for them than keeping the fe harmony in their environnement where people please others etc. What do you think? And could you describe lawyer logic a bit more from your point of view?

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
Other INFPs seem to BE their feelings whilst I FEEL my feelings.
Help! I don't even feel them! It sounds like a stupid question to ask what are feelings, so I rather ask: what are feelings for you? ^^ Well now that they told me in the 80Q thread that I talk a lot about what I like and dislike I have to say that I never really feel that but just say it because... I don't know... I learned it? I tend to say: "It's funny that this and that happened" but I'm not really feeling that it was funny but I'm just enthousiatic that I made an observation... okay that's kinda hard to explain xD I'll stop that here. What are feelings for you and how do you experience them? ^^

I have to say that I'm good at not hurting other people feelings. I tend to say nothing instead of hurting them :p
Can you actually give very good emotional support to people? Because for me it's really a weak point. I just don't know how to help them and I don't even like hugging people, so I'm actually quite a cold person but not intentionally, and usually they are not open to logical solutions. Like someone lost his boyfriend and is crying. I really cannot handle those situations. I could only say: "Well there are so many nice men out there, the chance is big you'll find a new one.. okay okay.. I know he was unique yeah... but you have to get over that.. I know it's hard but he won't come back... so don't be sad for the rest of your life... that's not worth it"
But usually I'm not in those situations because they would never come to me for emotional support xD


5) How do you see INTPs?
I respect them a whole lot thanks to their unwavering confidence in their logic and willingness to go against convention but face to face interaction is really difficult.
Why is face to face interaction difficult? Okay with me it would be really difficult because I'm usually defending my room by not letting anybody in but.. (and when you come in I probably wouldn't talk to you *awkward silence* xD )

I've not really so much confidence in my logic.. I'm always like "on the one hand... on the other hand..." it could be... maybe... is there really a truth? ... We cannot be sure... blahblah
But I observed there are INTPs (usually they are INTJ-like and often enneagram 5w6's) who are much more into logic and their statements. I don't like that so much either.

5) How do you see INTPs?

Used to test as one more (as a teenager), and am friends with INTPs. As long as their feeling isn't TOO underdeveloped i love their thirst for knowledge and love for thinking, which I share.
What happens if it's too underdeveloped? Are they too critical? Too insensitive? Do they get angry quickly?
Do they think everyone else is stupid? ^^

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?

Yeah I think so...like I need to have some internal logical framework, even if it changes over time.


BTW love how analytical you are about it! It sounds kinda like how I'd investigate or learn about the topic, but in more depth! (y)
Why in more depth? There is this theory in timeless' description that INTPs type 5's are more into details and INFP's type 5 more about the essence and then move on. It was described as the opposite but I don't see it. I cannot really decide which one I am. I'm not a very detailed oriented person.
Introverted Thinking Types (INTP, ISTP)
Introverted Thinking types (IxTP) emphasize the particular meanings of words and how each individual piece fits together within a concept. Introverted Thinking Type Fives do not have the wide array of observations that an Extroverted Intuitive Type Five might, but they analyze their observations in such great detail that they can easily get lost in their own head. For this reason, IxTP Fives are probably the most introverted of the introverted types.
Contrast:
ENxP – Many observations, quick to discard the ones that seem false. (Tendency toward brainstorming)
IxTP – Fewer observations, but analyzed in great detail, only thrown out after substantial analysis. (Tendency toward detailed exploration)

Introverted Feeling Types (INFP, ISFP)
Introverted Feeling types are concerned more about the essence of a particular subject than the gritty particulars. (This is the opposite for Introverted Thinking types.) As a result, an IxFP Five may move from subject to subject, gathering what they consider is the essence and moving along quickly. They may not see the little details as important, thus making them think that they couldn’t be a Five because Five is traditionally associated with Introverted Thinking-like behavior. However, this is not the case.
source: http://personalitycafe.com/type-5-f...ype-5-forum-investigator/65605-type-five-investigator-timeless-description.html

I'm definitely the most introverted introvert I know ^^ and always lost in my head. But I think INFP are like this, too?
How does your logical framework change?


So I'll make a pause here. But I'll come back later and analyze your posts in great detail :p
Quite interesting what you're wrinting here :)
 
#3 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
Definitely with Fi more.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
Yes, I do. And by that I mean my feelings and my logic work together usually.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
I think both contribute to it.

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
Not always, which is when I catch my feelings being irrational. When that happens, I try to detach from them. It can be very difficult and tiring, because it's naturally my dominant function, and the 4 wing just makes it even more troublesome. Most of the time my feelings are rational, so I can feel okay with working with them. I always make sure something is sensible enough anyway before I add it to my value system. What I'm saying is, Fi can be logic when well-developed. I think mine is developed healthily enough.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
I notice some INFPs don't try to push their emotions away. It's a big thing for me, I've always been afraid of doing something irrational. I hated having emotions sometimes.

5) How do you see INTPs?
I don't know if I've met INTPs.. but generally I like thinkers. I don't know, chatting with them can be easier or more relaxing. I don't have to worry about offending them, and I know what they say if they criticize me isn't personal. I like how straightforward they are with their thoughts. I like them being unbiased. And I like that they may not care to seek intimacy so fast; intimacy in a short time can have me repulsed. I need time to put my guard down around someone.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
Not at all. Very open to it. The only time I can get offended by criticism is when I know they're wrong about me. But it's not like my feelings are genuinely hurt, it's more like, wow, this is dumb. I vent briefly or laugh about it, then get over it.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
Yes, I do. I need time to take in the information. I don't like feeling messy in my head, I want to be sure everything is clear. I would prefer to have explanations. I don't want to be unprepared. I feel that if I'm unprepared, that if there's one hole in my line of logic, I'll mess up.
 
#4 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
Fi all the way, Ti is like a mystery that I'd really like to understand more of. I think of Ti as "Lawyer logic".

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
Fi is king but it's often held back by more rational concerns. I make rational decision while simentaniously hating myself for not making the "feeling decision". Like I'm living a thinkers life while being a feeler on the inside.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
Fi I think.

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
My values influences most of my decisions. The only time I can be completely objective about something is if I have absolutely no personal investment in it. That being said, I can go against my values if I think it's for the better but I really hurts. Like I'm dragging a cheese grater against my soul.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
Other INFPs seem to BE their feelings whilst I FEEL my feelings.

5) How do you see INTPs?
I respect them a whole lot thanks to their unwavering confidence in their logic and willingness to go against convention but face to face interaction is really difficult.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
Yes. :crying:

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
I don't need things to make sense but I really want them to. I will accept an experience as truth but then be obsessed to explain it in a way that makes sense.
 
#5 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?

I score fairly high on both Fi and Ti, and always felt I was higher on the Ti than most INFPs. It usually shows up in my top 3-4 functions in cognitive functions test. Maybe it's because I'm borderline INFP/INTP. In the usual 4 dichotomy preference tests I usually score score a near-equal preference for feeling and thinking, usually with a slight preference for F. I think I'm definitely driven a lot by my values, but can detach for the sake of thinking theoretically.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?

Yes, most of the time. I suppose I do have a pragmatic side though.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?

Not sure

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?

Not always, sometimes I can detach.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?

I don't relate to the butthurt/being very sensitive to criticism part that much. I mean I can, but I don't feel more sensitive than most, and actually I find most people (of any type) take things too personally. I have a hard 'edge' and some INFPs have said I can see TJish at times. But I'm pretty understanding and sympathetic most of the time.

5) How do you see INTPs?

Used to test as one more (as a teenager), and am friends with INTPs. As long as their feeling isn't TOO underdeveloped i love their thirst for knowledge and love for thinking, which I share.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?

It depends. If I feel it's valid or true, then I might a bit but then see if I can learn from it. If its blatant representation it ticks me off, but I don't usually get TOO affected by it. Often I can let it slide.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?

Yeah I think so...like I need to have some internal logical framework, even if it changes over time.


BTW love how analytical you are about it! It sounds kinda like how I'd investigate or learn about the topic, but in more depth! (y)
 
#6 · (Edited)
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
When I learned about Fi it made so much sense. Like yeah, that's exactly what's going on! I'm glad I took a functions test and got aux Ti before finding out it's supposed to be dead last :laughing: or I probably would have written off cognitive functions altogether. But I actually think I use Ne quite a bit more these days than Ti, though I think I developed Ti earlier than Ne. I must be a weirdo.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
I used to think of my values as the product of my thinking. (Still do to an extent, I guess.) I try to let values and feelings inform my thinking, and vice-versa.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
TBH I'm not that familiar with Enneagram. I attribute my values to Fi but that's because cognitive functions are my newest shiny toy.

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
I don't think I detach from them much. Like I said, I prefer to let values and reason inform each other.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
I think Ti is neon awesome :D

5) How do you see INTPs?
As my close cousins? I guess because INTP is my second-closest type. I haven't studied them yet as much as I plan to. One online friend, who is INTP unless she's ISTP, is the most logical person I've ever known. She demolishes faulty arguments! :D

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
Constructive criticism, no. If I'm wrong, I want to know I'm wrong. Even petty criticism I pay attention to. However, false criticism is worse than useless. It's destructive and distracting (from my actual problems that I really need to address), and I resent it highly. If you criticize me falsely, it's very hard to get me to trust your judgment and/or your motives again.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
I don't know... is it possible that I do both? It's wonderful when I can figure out the why's and the how's. I spend a lot of time trying to figure stuff out. But when I can't see where the match-up point is, or which parts I need to reject, I don't let it bother me too much. I don't mind holding onto conflicting positions loosely; I just admit "I don't know" and talk about what seems likely. Cognitive dissonance is only a problem if you ignore it :tongue:
 
#7 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
I see things with Fi more often than my Ti, although whenever I'm interacting with people I tend to show my Ti side more...unless I'm close to them, then you'll see how much of an Fi I really am.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
Strangely, no. I have deep convictions about certain things, but I will try to act on what the most rational course of action is in a given situation. If I'm stressed or out of my comfort zone, I resort to making decisions based on Fi.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
I really can't comment on this, I'm not familiar enough with the engram. I've taken the test but have barely looked into it :D

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do? Yes, emotions and feelings influence me. And I'll probably want to act on those emotions and feelings...however if I have time to think it over, I will try to do what's most logical or rational. If I'm caught up in the moment or I let my guard down, I'll act on my emotions.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
I'm not that idealistic. I've become less and less idealistic as of late.

5) How do you see INTPs?
Immediately, I think of L from death note :p. INTP's seem pretty cool, I'd love to get to know more.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
I do take things personally at times, but I will talk it over in my head to determine what the intent was. I try not to respond immediately after someone says something critical to determine if it is constructive or not.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation? I can accept that some questions may never be answered, but I try to find as much meaning as possible. And hey, often times the most important things in life have little inherent meaning, its the meaning you give it that makes it important.
 
#14 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
- I identify more with my Fi function.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
- I honestly think it's equal there. My values determine my feelings and my feelings determine my values. It's a mixture.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
- Fi dominant.

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
- They do influence me. Very much so. If it doesn't have some sort of connection with any of those three things, I have a hard time deciding things accurately. I don't know if that makes sense. Getting less influenced by emotions is one of my goals in life; it's becoming a problem.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
- I don't really know. I try not to make stupid decisions. I try to be rational. I've developed very few INTJ traits from one of my best friends, who is an INTJ. I tried to adapt to her, and I guess some traits stuck.

5) How do you see INTPs?
- Intriguing. I'd like to get to know one eventually, however frightening they might seem for other INFPs.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
- Yes. Trying to change that.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
- I guess you could say I need internal structure. But I can't do it on my own. If I had someone like an INTJ guide me, someone who thinks and rationalizes before they decide on something, then maybe. On my own, I try to rationalize, and it just comes out contradictory and confusing.
 
#15 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
Fi. I mean that IS what an INFP is haha.
2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
Yes and no. I usually consult my feelings and then go to objectivity.
2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
I'm not sure really, I would say more of the FI function.
3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
I can detach and hole myself in pretty well usually. I mean, if someone is yelling and screaming at me, I break down, but if it's nothing too bad I can usually just back myself in and shut the blinds I guess.
4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
Mmmm, I'm not sure. I have two INFP friends. They're both really good at romance but I'm just good at learning. It's frankly my blanket.
5) How do you see INTPs?
A distant cousin.
6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
Yes.
7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
Yes haha. I don't understand what my family is yelling at me about if I'm driving and do something wrong.
Example: "What do you mean "turn your wheels"? Aren't I already turning them? They're going in the right direction, SURELY you must be making the mi- oh I just knocked the sideview mirror off sorry. Still though, can you explain to me how to do that without yelling at me? It won't get us any where. So it's the opposite direction? What kind of bullshit is that? That makes no sense!"
 
#16 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
A: I'm in between both Fi and Ti

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
A: Yes! Definitely my feelings influence in everything.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?

A: isn't the same?

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?

A: Yes! Definitely! I'm always making decisions with my feelings, but i'm also overthink.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
A: I don't know, I feel very INFP But I'm 5w4 too so no all Infp are the same, enneagram type is important too.

5) How do you see INTPs?

A: OK, I have friends INTP and ENTP and I like that they are so Direct, very honest and so authentic I love genuine people.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?

A: OK, it depends but yes i can feel very attached (it is that the word?)

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation

A: oh god, I'm so obsessed with knowledge, I just want to know everything! Like if something is interesting to me I'm going to search everything about it.
 
#17 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
Fi definitely. Every decision/ incident is passed through my values filter but not at the cost of logic. Fi is a pretty analytical function. So, I am well aware of where my values and idiosyncrasies stand with regard to conventional logic/ mainstream opinion. So, my values keep getting refined with interactions with the world. I think this is what gives the Ti vibe to me.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values/feelings?
Ah, difficult question. Initially, I can get overwhelmed and be driven by feelings without even realizing it. Fi starts to provide more and more clarity as I calm down. But often, I realize that my feelings drove me in the same direction as values do. Because, I think, the values ultimately come from our deep feelings.

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them as a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
I can easily detach. Of course, my feelings influence me. But I don't act until I have made sense of it. There is a strong urge always to make sense of both my feelings and my thoughts. That's when the detachment mode switches itself on. Ne too gets activated and I start to analyze the issue from a wider lens and from multiple angles. But at times it is as much a process of rationalization as it is of reasoning. Selective interpretation if you will.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
Well, no two INFPs are the same. For a long long time, I didn't even know that a good friend of mine was an INFP. He too seemed to give Ti vibes and felt to me to be absolutely unemotional. Anyway, so I think I am not much different except that I am not at all the soppy kind, not even internally. I am quite emotionally stable. I resonate with most of the trademark characteristics of an INFP such as romantic, idealistic, perceptive, deep, etc.

5) How do you see INTPs?
I love them. They are the best intellectual partners I have had. So so easy to connect with them. I have a tendency to overexplain my thoughts because I am used to people not understanding them. With INTPs, they are part of the conversation instantly. What's more interesting is that their unquivering Ti corrects or points out the subjective biases in my thoughts. Helps me a lot. One thing I don't like about them is that they seem to be uncomfortable talking about emotions. So, the connection just can't get deeper beyond a point.

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
Very much. I take great offense. If badly hurt, I keep it in my head for too long activating my Fi-Si loop and get into a self-pity rut. It sucks but Te comes to the rescue after a point, structures my feelings to the extent it can, and helps me get out of the make-sense-of-this mode.

7) Do you need an internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things that have not really an explanation?
Yes, I need structure at times. But more than that, I need a free-flowing logic for an explanation to hold water. A structure is needed only when the issue is so multifaceted that my thoughts spread out in all directions and I can't bear the complexity any longer.

Hope it helps!
 
#18 ·
1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
I identify with Fi! The thing to know about me is that I research topics according to what I feel I need. I do not value logic for being objective but because I think knowledge says the truth about the world because science deals with empirical situations. I use it for my purpose, in general anarchist values.

2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
Yes all my decision are emotional and subjectively based I think.

2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
Interesting question. I think to me 4 wing and Fi are interdependant actually. Fi comes with a big sense of personal identity.

3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
No, like I has said before, I do not detach from my emotion at all. It appears I am curious because I want to have the high ground in discussion. But it's a matter of emotions since I think thoughts is a tool to make the world better.

4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
I think I am more at ease concerning philosophical topics and psychological or sociological topics. 5 wing comes with a great independance of thought. But INFP even the most "irrational" INFP are actually very interesting to hear because their logic is interesting and new. They are often very good at spotting what is wrong or right.

5) How do you see INTPs?
I see INTP as selfish people. Sorry but it s one I believe. Actually I think they often are inconscious of the repercussion of their action towards other people and I think they could be vain. Ti suppose some ideas have more values than others which I difficulty agree. I said I want to have the high ground in a discussion but I never said the high ground was justified aha.
but they are excellent person to debate with I admit. They smell logical inconsistencies to damn well. And they are funny too!

6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
Yes I think I can be. But I try to make criticism in perspective.

7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
Recently, I find subjective or emotional thoughts to be the most interesting internal structure. I love the idea of cognitive schematas. I decided to follow my intuition a lot more.
 
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Hello, INFP type 5w4's!

1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
5) How do you see INTPs?
6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?

So many questions^^ :D
I'm trying to find out how an INFP type 5w4 would be, because it was suggested that I could be an Fi dom.
It seems that I get influenced by my values (which in my opinion come from the 4 wing but could also be a strong Fi function)
im so late but yeah i just want to reply:')

1) I'd like to know how much you're identifying with Fi and/or Ti function?
= Fi of course. but i like to delve into the minds of my intp close friends.
2) Do you make most decisions on your values / feelings?
= both, but my feelings are mostly based on my values.
2a) Do you see it more due to your Fi dominant function or because of your 4 wing?
= it's more Fi i think. wing 4 actually contributes too.
3) Do emotions/feelings/values always influence you? Or can you totally detach from them like a stereotypical type 5 would usually do?
= yeah ... for me rather than detaching them, i prefer to change my value by collecting infomations and selecting them.
4) How do you differ from other INFPs?
= my intp friend once said to me that i have more boundaries and looking withdrawn and disconnected😭 from this world than our infp close friend that we know. actually, i only know 1 infp in my life. and, sometimes i just feel like this😐.
5) How do you see INTPs?
= oh God how i love them.
6) Do you get offended by criticism easily?
= yes, except if it's from my INTP 5w6 female close friend and my ENTP idol(i want to be like him, HE'S SO FRICKIN SMART AND ASSERTIVE, anw he's not a kpop idol🤣he's a neurosurgeon). i really trust their judgement with the whole of my hearteu🌹
7) Do you need internal structure? Like structuring your thoughts or that you need everything to make sense somehow (explanations why something is like it is) or can you also accept things which have not really an explanation?
- bruh i always need internal structure. i cant accept things that dont have explanation like hdhejssksdj no i dont have that kind of faith.