I want similar friends to me. I'm an INTJ and an enneagram 5. I haven't figured out my wing yet.
JosieM
I am no philosopher.
What is an Enneagram type 5 wing 6 (The Troubleshooter)?
"Enneagram 5w6 Personality Traits
Basic Fear
Five wing sixes fear being useless or incapable. They seek to improve the world around them in order to feel worthy.
Basic Desire
Their basic desire is to be competent and useful. They usually show this by picking up new skills and pieces of knowledge that can be of benefit.
Troubleshooters may withdraw from others to cope with stressful situations, which can tend to make them feel lonely."
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What is an Enneagram type 5 wing 4 (The Philosopher)?
"Enneagram 5w4 Personality Traits
Basic Fear
Type fives with a four wing are afraid of being helpless and incompetent. They tend to overcompensate for this by spending their time developing new knowledge and skills to feel useful and worthy.
Basic Desire
Their basic desire is to feel helpful and able. They express this by passionately pursuing knowledge and understanding of the world.
Philosopher tend to guard themselves by withdrawing from others, which may lead to loneliness."
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What is an Enneagram type 5 wing 6 (The Troubleshooter)?
"Enneagram 5w6 Personality Traits
Basic Fear
Five wing sixes fear being useless or incapable. They seek to improve the world around them in order to feel worthy.
Basic Desire
Their basic desire is to be competent and useful. They usually show this by picking up new skills and pieces of knowledge that can be of benefit.
Troubleshooters may withdraw from others to cope with stressful situations, which can tend to make them feel lonely."
Enneagram Type 5w6 - The Troubleshooter
Enneagram Type 5 Wing 6 tend to be practical, independent, and logical in their behavior. They tend to be much more cooperative than other Type 5s.
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What is an Enneagram type 5 wing 4 (The Philosopher)?
"Enneagram 5w4 Personality Traits
Basic Fear
Type fives with a four wing are afraid of being helpless and incompetent. They tend to overcompensate for this by spending their time developing new knowledge and skills to feel useful and worthy.
Basic Desire
Their basic desire is to feel helpful and able. They express this by passionately pursuing knowledge and understanding of the world.
Philosopher tend to guard themselves by withdrawing from others, which may lead to loneliness."
Enneagram Type 5w4 - The Philosopher
Enneagram Type 5 Wing 4 personalities are curious, creative, and reserved. They tend to be more emotional and self-expressive than other Type 5s.
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Heh. I don't enneagram, but two fellow-intj friends who both claim to be 9 are constantly teasing I must be a 5 . according to them I must be a 5 because I'm so [according to them] quarrelsome.
When I did the questionnaire here I got counter phobic 6w5 and 638 tritype which I guess is right. I also really relate to 1, but I'm a fairly assertive/aggressive person with what I think so I think that's probably why I'm not 1.
I'm an INTJ and Enneagram Type 5.....2nd was type 9, 3rd was type 1....in the past it was Enneagram type 5....then type 6 was second, followed by 1......I've consistently typed as 5 for over a decade....and it fits who I am both the good and the bad...
In PDB we have 548 (and 458, 584, 853), 538 (and 835) and 531 (and 135, 153) 145 (and 514) correlated with INTJ. I could be one of those instead (ie. 548, 538)? The votes for celebrities and characters are not reliable but those votes for the eneagram might.
358, 385, 538, 583, 835, 853-The Solution Master
If you are a 358, you are ambitious, knowledgeable and protective. You want to be efficient, wise and straightforward. Tough-minded, you are good at studying a problem and finding both original and practical solutions others often miss. Highly tenacious, you work tirelessly until you find effective solutions and can prevail against adversity.
458, 485, 548, 584, 845, 854-The Scholar
If you are a 458, you are intuitive, knowledgeable and protective. You want to be original, wise and straightforward. You study what makes people tick and form strong opinions about what you learn. Somewhat introverted, you are identified with being an intuitive, strategic thinker. You see and focus on the interconnections that others often miss.
135, 153, 315, 351, 513, 531-The Technical Expert
If you are a 135, you are diligent, focused and knowledgeable. You want to be ethical, efficient and wise. Highly rational, you seek systems and procedures. Detail oriented, you like mathematical concepts and finding ways to breakdown and understand complex material. You are very precise and good with exacting details that others find difficult to manage.
145, 154, 415, 451, 514, 541-The Researcher
If you are a 145, you are diligent, intuitive, and knowledgeable. You want to be ethical, original and wise. Highly intellectual, you are focused on what you perceive is correct and above reproach. Motivated to be informed, you are research oriented. You seek and quote the opinions of experts to avoid being uncertain and seen as ignorant.
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Enneagram Tritypes
358, 385, 538, 583, 835, 853-The Solution Master
If you are a 358, you are ambitious, knowledgeable and protective. You want to be efficient, wise and straightforward. Tough-minded, you are good at studying a problem and finding both original and practical solutions others often miss. Highly tenacious, you work tirelessly until you find effective solutions and can prevail against adversity.
458, 485, 548, 584, 845, 854-The Scholar
If you are a 458, you are intuitive, knowledgeable and protective. You want to be original, wise and straightforward. You study what makes people tick and form strong opinions about what you learn. Somewhat introverted, you are identified with being an intuitive, strategic thinker. You see and focus on the interconnections that others often miss.
135, 153, 315, 351, 513, 531-The Technical Expert
If you are a 135, you are diligent, focused and knowledgeable. You want to be ethical, efficient and wise. Highly rational, you seek systems and procedures. Detail oriented, you like mathematical concepts and finding ways to breakdown and understand complex material. You are very precise and good with exacting details that others find difficult to manage.
145, 154, 415, 451, 514, 541-The Researcher
If you are a 145, you are diligent, intuitive, and knowledgeable. You want to be ethical, original and wise. Highly intellectual, you are focused on what you perceive is correct and above reproach. Motivated to be informed, you are research oriented. You seek and quote the opinions of experts to avoid being uncertain and seen as ignorant.
What is Tritype® What are Tritypes® How do I find my Tritype® What are the 27 Tritypes®?
27 Tritype® Archetypes
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Enneagram Tritypes
I am 5w6(4 wing is close to be balanced) tritype 531(however I have typed as 54x on tests, x=1,9,8). However I am not 100% sure that I am an INTJ tho(other possible types include INTP, ISTJ, ISTP).
If you want friends similar to you, maybe you should not use ennagram to measure similarness.
It is horribly inaccurate. In contrast to mbti, which have functions, thus explanations to someone's mind working pattern, which is more close to actual psychology, enneagram rely on sterotypical descriptions and characteristics. On the top of that, the most popular method to sort a person into one enneagram type is online tests. And everyone do them according to how they see themselves or what they want to be,which isn't neccessary meets the actual truth. Now these more often than not, cause human errors in this model. So majority of people are mistyped in the first place. This was not your question, but can be useful to know. This is a rather ineffective idea.
It is horribly inaccurate. In contrast to mbti, which have functions, thus explanations to someone's mind working pattern, which is more close to actual psychology, enneagram rely on sterotypical descriptions and characteristics. On the top of that, the most popular method to sort a person into one enneagram type is online tests. And everyone do them according to how they see themselves or what they want to be,which isn't neccessary meets the actual truth. Now these more often than not, cause human errors in this model. So majority of people are mistyped in the first place. This was not your question, but can be useful to know. This is a rather ineffective idea.
The enneagram is great for self help but I'm not a fan of it for defining yourself, ie. a lot of INTJ are 5w6, some 4w5 etc.. then end of story.
I found that defining yourself with subtypes with the below method I've developed from testing with Neojunginan Typology (science based and 16 cognitive functions) is much more interesting since it may show what you are most like and potentially.
Also the enneagram is not derived from the work of Carl Jung and Isabel Myers Briggs with dichotomy and cognitive functions which is excellent typology.
The goal of typology is give an idea about what to expect from a person.
www.personalitycafe.com
I found that defining yourself with subtypes with the below method I've developed from testing with Neojunginan Typology (science based and 16 cognitive functions) is much more interesting since it may show what you are most like and potentially.
Also the enneagram is not derived from the work of Carl Jung and Isabel Myers Briggs with dichotomy and cognitive functions which is excellent typology.
The goal of typology is give an idea about what to expect from a person.
What are your three sub-types in Neojungian Typology and...
What are your three sub-types in Neojungian Typology and how do you relate to those as MBTI sub-types for yourself? All types welcomed. I've just picked this forum because there is less noise. Test: https://www.neojungiantypology.com/njti4 Intellectual Fighter - is more or less the - ENTJ...
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I have consistently scored highest as a 5, most likely a 5w4 from most tests, although the wings tend to be close. I relate to both 5 wing descriptions, so that has always been a toss up and it could very well be that I easily go between the two depending on the subject I am dealing with.
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