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ISFP villains....is there such a thing?

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#1 ·
This type is known as the stereotypical hero/chosen one in fictional works, so finding the opposite seems borderline impossible. At worst, they are anti-heroes.

I'm thinking Poison Ivy from Batman/DC universe, but other than that, I'm completely stumped.


You guys know any?
 
#4 · (Edited)
^ It's only a trailer and therefore hard to type, but it does sound like a legit SFP ''gone wrong''.


I also just remembered Leatherface from the TCM franchise. Although he is highly mentally unstable so some ISFPs might take offense to it, even if he does fit the bill.
 
#5 ·
I think ISFP's can be villains a lot of the time. But they usually end up being portrayed as the misunderstood by the end of the film/novel. For example, a really odd one too. An old movie with Mark Ruffalo...I think it was called 'You Can Count on Me' or something along those lines. Pretty sure he was the 'villain' in that and from memory he was an ISFP. He is really just portrayed as unreliable and down in his luck though rather than evil.
 
#7 ·
Dollarhyde seems SeNi to me. Def in a FiNi loop.

Sweeney Todd. Doesn't seem like a Ne. Focuses too much on the present / violence, not concepts or embittered dreams.

There was an ISFP villain in The Musketeers BBC series.

There's more ISFP villains than INFP villains, IMO.
 
#14 ·
I know it's an unpopular opinion but I actually have Scar from the Lion king as an ISFP. He might be a bit theatrical for an ISFP, but he does fit. He's led by his personal desires, can be impulsive but tends to lay low, thinks of himself as a mistermind while actually only thinking a few steps ahead and has trouble actually keeping a grip on things. He's an adult, which has given him some time to actually develop his personality.
I can see how people would type him differently though. I've seen convincing arguments for INTJ for example.

Prince Zuko from Avatar: the Last Airbender is definitely an ISFP too, although he has a redemption arc that ends with him not being a villain of course.
 
#15 ·
I know it's an unpopular opinion but I actually have Scar from the Lion king as an ISFP. He might be a bit theatrical for an ISFP, but he does fit. He's led by his personal desires, can be impulsive but tends to lay low, thinks of himself as a mistermind while actually only thinking a few steps ahead and has trouble actually keeping a grip on things. He's an adult, which has given him some time to actually develop his personality.
I can see how people would type him differently though. I've seen convincing arguments for INTJ for example. .
I don't necessarily agree with this, but I always find the IN*J typings hilarious in his case.
He shows nothing that would indicate dominant Ni. "Having a plan" is not Ni and he doesn't even have a grand plan in the first place.
ISFP is a fit.
 
#16 ·
Kylo Ren (in grip of inferior Te)

Jung describing unhealthy Fi:

This power is derived from the deeply felt, unconscious images, but consciously she is apt to relate it to the ego, whereupon her influence becomes debased into personal tyranny. Whenever the unconscious subject is identified with the ego, the mysterious power of intensive feeling turns into a banal and arrogant desire to dominate, a vanity, and a petty bossiness. This produces a type of woman most regrettably distinguished by her unscrupulous ambition and mischievous cruelty. But it is a change, however, that also leads to neurosis.

So long as the ego feels subordinate to the unconscious subject, and feeling is aware of something higher and mightier than the ego, the type is normal. Although the unconscious thinking is archaic, its reductive tendencies help to compensate the occasional inclination to exalt the ego into the subject.If this does take place as a result of complete suppression of the counterbalancing subliminal processes, the unconscious thinking goes over into open opposition and gets projected onto objects. The now egocentric subject comes to feel the power and importance of the devalued object. She begins consciously to feel 'what other people think'. Naturally, other people are thinking all sorts of mean things, scheming evil, contriving plots, secrecy intrigues, etc. To prevent this, she must carry out counter-intrigues, to suspect and sound out others, and weave counter plots. Beset by rumors, she must make frantic efforts to convert a threatened inferiority into a superiority. Endless secret rivalries develop, and in these embittered struggles she will shrink from no baseness or evil means, but even virtues will be misused and tampered with in order to play the trump card. Such a development must end in exhaustion.
Think of how he is towards Luke, and that really does fit him. I also don't see Ne in the character, so he's not an INFP.
 
#23 ·
Back to the ISFP villains topic, there are folks who think Sasuke is an ISFP (I can see ISTP working as his type, too), and for a long time he was pretty much a villain. He eventually becomes a good guy again, so maybe IxFP aren't just that good at being bad for longer periods of time.
 
#26 ·
^ I agree with everything above. I want to add that I find it hard to imagine a Te-dom/aux villain being so bad at actually controlling and managing the environment, like Scar is. He uses all of his Ni-Fe to become the king, but once that happens, he doesn't do much with that power, other than rub in the face of others that yes, he is the mighty king. That aside, he just eats and sleeps, while the Pride Lands rot away.
 
#30 ·
He takes so much pleasure from playing with other people's (lions and hyenas are people too : p) emotions. You can make a rather big list of moments where Scar is doing nothing but manipulating/playing with others. He plays with the little mice, he terrorizes Zazu, he taunts Mufasa, he manipulates Simba many times, the hyenas are basically his puppets (who he control by manipulating their emotions and desire to have a constant source of food), he taunts Mufasa again before killing him, he terrorizes Simba for no reason whatsoever other than pure joy, before telling the hyenas to kill him, etc etc. Heck, he was killed in the end mostly because he is so into messing up the psyche of others.

Like you said, that is some really messed up Fe.