[BranchMonkey]

@Immolate

Thank you. I have Linux Mint and the working memory problems so I'll have to go look for how to do that, again. *Rolls eyes at self xD

 

[N0MAD]

Lol, I really didn't need this confusion! xD Just as I typed myself as INTJ in MBTI... This is the first time I took a socionics test, I have absolutely no knowledge of it yet, but I read and thought a lot about cognitive functions and that's the way I came to INTJ.

I got SLE on this test - that would be Se-Ti-Ne-Fi, right? But I'm certain I use Te over Ti, and quite sure I'm a Ni type (I really don't think I use Ne much). I'm also sure I'm not a Se-dom or even an extrovert, I practically live inside my own head and imagination.

My two strongest dichotomies were Thinking and Extraversion (really, test?). I'm also moderately Central (whatever that means) and slightly Sensing, Irrational, Ascending, Strategic, Obstinate. I don't sound like a nice person. xD The rest dichotomies were pretty much on the middle.

My second most likely result was LIE, and then ILE, SEE, LSI, LSE.

The most unlikely type by a long shot was EII, then ESI, IEI, SEI, IEE.

The rest were around the middle.

 

[BranchMonkey]

I had trouble with some of the syntax; the person who put the questions together did not seem to be a native English speaker. A few questions were difficult to answer because there was conflation, e.g. one about being romantic, sentimental, sensitive and thin-skinned? I am not the first two; I am the second two, so how to answer that kind of question and avoid having too many 3s was a challenge.

I'm satisfied, however, with the results. I also respected the work that went into this--not a 25 question HelloQuizzy type of test.


My results which are certainly in the ballpark, although on another Socionics test I scored INTp, this time, much more detailed, I got:


Most likely was INFj or EII at nearly 1.5

Second most likely was INFp or IEI at 1.25

Third most likely was ISFp or SEI at 1.20

Fourth most likely was ISFj or ESI at 1.00

Fifth (and only extraverted) was ENFj at .055

***

Least likely was SLE or ESTp at - 1.75 (tied with 2nd least likely)

Second least likely was ISTp or SLI at - 1.75 (tied with 1st least likely)

Third least likely was ENTp or ILE at - 1.25

Fourth least likely and close to 3rd least likely was ENTj or LIE at - 1.20

Fifth least likely was ISTj or LSI at - 0.75

===================================================================


The last type I had listed on this forum was MBTI - INFJ

I tested via Humanmetrics for 7 years as INTJ, and INFJs are often mistyped as INTJs, so I am going to take out Unknown and replace it with INFJ.

Bringing this forward so I can look at the INFj and the INFp because that is how I experience myself: It's a toss up because the personality theorists don't agree on where mystical experiences and some other experiences--also habits, fall: INFJ or INFP (MBTI) or Socionics... and Socionics has more theorists to make it trickier.

Today, however, I will go with INFP, remembering that analytical is something others: professors, classmates, SOs and family members, among others, have called me since I was young. I don't think of analytical as being an INFP trait, but it doesn't matter.

I do wonder if INFP has a poetry thread going, because I've been posting my own in the INFJ area.

 

[DavidH]

Bringing this forward so I can look at the INFj and the INFp because that is how I experience myself: It's a toss up because the personality theorists don't agree on where mystical experiences and some other experiences--also habits, fall: INFJ or INFP (MBTI) or Socionics... and Socionics has more theorists to make it trickier.

Today, however, I will go with INFP, remembering that analytical is something others: professors, classmates, SOs and family members, among others, have called me since I was young. I don't think of analytical as being an INFP trait, but it doesn't matter.

I do wonder if INFP has a poetry thread going, because I've been posting my own in the INFJ area.

For such, it may be beneficial to consider Social vs Personal. This is similar to the trope of "work persona" vs "home persona" in the adult world. Do you see yourself as wistful, emotive, and sensual socially and moral, creative, and logical at home or on a close personal level? Or is it vice-versa. People typically have this dualistic trait to them, which is typically echoed socially when people cross from the Social to Personal with each other. It is a tool worth considering.

 

[BranchMonkey]

@DavidH

Thanks for something clear.

I work at home, and I have for many years: More than 30 years as a published author using various forms from radio spots, poetry, literary critiques to flash and short fiction, plus a screenplay, and various book-length manuscripts; the last three all fiction.

So, I'll look at this from the perspective of when I did work the 9 to 5 gigs, which were short--I would learn what I could, excel, grow bored with the work and anxious about getting back to thinking, reading, writing, exploring various theories and so on--I would quit; I rarely got fired, and every time I've been fired it was for refusing to do something like lie to customers, or for pointing out the wrong someone did for deliberately marring the cake of someone the owner said he knew was black (this kind of thing happened when I was in my 20s).

I am not wistful nor typically "emotive," i.e. I have auto-immune diseases, and was 'sickly' as a child; I have disc generative disease, and a circulatory problem i was born with: fetal alcohol "effect" not syndrome, so I have a variety of health problems... and when the pain and isolation from those, plus being broke, relying on my husband for money gets to me, "then" I can be emotive, yet when I meditate, as I am now--daily with only a couple exceptions, the only kind of emotive I am is mellow, and easy to be around.

At work, if possible, I would form one bond with someone with whom I could then have conversations others wouldn't consider suitable for the workplace: philosophical, world religion, and much more; and we'd share lunch. Otherwise, I was a loner, nose to the grindstone, get the work finished, and make up things for myself to do until I couldn't bear the boredome, then I would quit.

I have been a director of communications for a non-profit prep school ( aiding impoverished kids to get a solid education); I've run my own preschool--and I did so by getting a manual from a college bookstore and setting it up as though I were required by licensing, though I was not required to do so; I wanted the children, which including two after-school aged girls, to have the best, varied education and care possible, so we did:

Yoga; science experiments; made jewelry, used instruments and sang/danced; never watched television, and ate well: no hotdogs or such, no candy.

I was COO of a non-profit, working my way up from client to accounting assistant (detested the accounting work) to office manager, and then COO: over six months time.

My favorite part of the job was trouble-shooting; getting the "contract at risk status" I inherited, lifted. I hired my own replacement as the job wasn't a long-range one for my goals:

I left virtually all social interactions to my personal assistant, an extravert, and stayed in my upstairs office. I delegated the attending of county meetings to him as well as three hours even once a month, sitting and waiting my turn to discuss for five minutes what pertained to our agency was unbearable to me.

I am very creative, and have gravitated toward a variety of expressions from photography, especially black-n-white photography to mixed media (my favorite was pen/ink, acrylic and collage, though I enjoyed gesture drawing and watercolor work, too).

I do not care about money; I often have no idea what is happening with my body, e.g. I will become so focused on tasks that I risk losing bladder control before I tune in and empty it.

I've never had a wide circle of friends or even acquaintances.

I can small talk for short periods, periodically, with a mail carrier, someone in a store and such as long as I can steer the conversation away from politics, sex or religion--other hot button topics, should the other person take it there as their stance is usually condemning and extreme.

I've had what others call 'mystical' experiences--unsought and unwanted, since I was in my early 20s. Not many, but definitely the kind that fit into that category by other people's standards. I figure it's a part of the normal working of some people's brains or I wouldn't have tapped into that source.

I am not religious; do not join organizations; and hate sticking to a plan if something comes up to indicate I need to change something.

As a writer, I am what is known as "organic," i.e. I don't start with detailed outline but rather an opening line, or a character will appear and begin talking to me internally, or a bit of dialogue will filter through my consciousness and I follow it.

I am a rewriter, going back to the beginning of a piece and writing straight through, repeating until the piece is as "true" to the characters, or has the necessary sense.

I have changed a day's and more than a day's work when I have awakened to characters correcting me, literally upon waking, I would hear them saying, "I would not have done that..." and I would internally apologize and make the corrections. Characters are that real to me--my own, anyway.

My favorite poetic forms are short--senryu and haiku being my two favorites.

I detest parties, parades, or being any kind of spectator at most "events" including concerts.

I am noise sensitive and often wear earplugs when I go with my husband grocery shopping.

I used to wear earplugs in college classes and sit close enough to hear the professor while blocking out students coming in and out, talking among themselves, et cetera.

I don't enjoy camping or other nature activities but I enjoy observing birds, squirrels and many other animals, watching them mate, play, fight, and finding the patterns for that particular being's way of living--often noting similarities between certain animals, and sometimes all animals, and human beings.

I am an excellent animal trainer. I observe, experiment, and change my behavior, or shape the animal's--depending on what is necessary.

I used to volunteer at runaway shelters, in group homes, as an English teacher and poetry workshop facilitator at an alternative high school.

My style of teacher was at once informal and yet required mutual respect: I did not allow students to put each other down nor did I demand that they show up to class:

They knew the rules, which I would remind them of, for graduation requirements, and it was up to them to decide to do, or not do, the required work.

I can go 'seat to seat'--putting myself in just about anyone's shoes to understand--though not necessarily approve or disapprove--of their beliefs, actions, problems.

I've been told I would make an excellent psychiatrist; police detective and trial attorney.

I used to love debating when I was younger, but now that I am older, and with the health problems, plus what passes for debate these days, i stay out of that time waster, and will "weigh in" on a topic if it interests me, and I think sharing my experience may help someone else. Then I Unsubscribe.

I am maternal but not domestic. My husband does the domestic stuff; he is an ESFj (Socionics); enneagram 2.

I am, especially compared to my husband, so logical, we used to fight about it. An ex. Two days ago we were in the kitchen and saw a house sparrow holding down another and pecking its eyes out.

I watched more fascinated then upset; he was so upset he wanted to stoop the dominant sparrow, while I told him my perspective:

"It's too late; the bird being killed--and it was clearly the intent (and outcome), would suffer longer once the dominant sparrow returned to finish him off, or if he didn't return, the injured sparrow would suffer until it eventually died, so I told my husband, "Unless you are prepared to bash its head in with a rock, leave them be."

Those were my exact words, and he trusted my perspective, and left the kitchen. I continued to watch until the aggressor dragged the carcass into some grass and continued to peck its eyes... and I no longer had new information to examine.

Afterward, I got online to read up on house sparrow aggression, causes, any objective data--and read the subjective--often absurd supposition, of laypersons coming across this sort of behavior.

Hope any of this helps you get a clearer picture of how my mind works, and how I work, generally.

 

[rezbi]

I got SLI (ISTp). I don't know much about Socionics yet, but considering I'm an MBTI ISTJ, I'd say it makes sense. I love how I had almost -2 of both Ni and Ne and sensing was so high that it barely fit in the chart. haha Also, I'm more of an emotivist than most SLI types, no surprise there. Interesting test. I'll have to look into Socionics a bit more. It's kind of confusing.

 

[Wisteria]

My results were very legitimate, EII first followed by ESI, and Se leading types as the least. Also introversion scored very high compared to the rest. the test seems to score more accurately for ethical types, which must mean the questions haven't defined Te and Ti differences correctly.

 

[babblingbrook]

EII 1,6
IEE, IEI 1,3
SEI 1,2
ESE 0,8
ESI 0,2
ILE, LII, EIE, SEE, SLI -0,2
ILI -0,7
LIE -0,8
LSE -1,2
SLE, LSI -1,4

-0,8 on ethical...

Some of the questions were a bit strange. Perhaps it was translated from Russian?

 

[DavidH]

BranchMonkey, thank you for sharing your experiences.

You are an Emotivist. The remainder is difficult to decipher, however, the LII/SEE spectrum is likely. IEI is also likely.

It appears that you have symptoms of emotional neglect and abuse in childhood, which has translated to symptoms of social isolation in adulthood. This isolation in turn translating into a loss of empathy.

Personality type systems can serve as a good source of amusement and exercise for understanding. That said, when seeking answers to practical ends, basic and practical methods are most effective.

 

[Finny]

 

[MusiCago]

IEI, followed very closely by EII, I put 3 for majority of questions I think because they were all terrible grammar and hard to understand, accurate though imo.

 

[BranchMonkey]

@MusiCago

I wanted so much to rewrite the majority of the questions I kept; and simply toss and insert new ones for the worst from which we had to choose.

I, too, chose threes, and I really could not--even clearing the cache, following other suggestions, ever get back to the test to retake it putting in more threes where initially I followed the test-givers advice and tried to answer without 'too' many.

 

[BigCat]

I seem to consistently get SLE even though my MBTI is ISTP.

 

[Eset]

xSTx is a given I suppose.

 

[DavidH]

xSTx is a given I suppose.

Socionics personality type is capable of being easily tested with the personality system itself. It involves typing other people, and the individuals own self perception of own type being inconsequential. An LSE could easily formulate it without question.

 

[Eset]

Socionics personality type is capable of being easily tested with the personality system itself. It involves typing other people, and the individuals own self perception of own type being inconsequential. An LSE could easily formulate it without question.

I'm not sure what you are implying here.
Are you saying; someone of my personality should easily be able to decipher one's type via the system itself?
If that's the case, I already know I am LSE, I just like to do tests every once in a while to test the validity and accurateness so I can potentially use it for people who I type.

 

[DavidH]

I'm not sure what you are implying here.
Are you saying; someone of my personality should easily be able to decipher one's type via the system itself?
If that's the case, I already know I am LSE, I just like to do tests every once in a while to test the validity and accurateness so I can potentially use it for people who I type.

No. It is not a criticism. I know how to do such, but it requires the work necessary to see it through. I do not want to do the work (Te). If you would like to do the work necessary, then I will supply you with the information necessary to do such.

 

[BranchMonkey]

I had trouble with some of the syntax; the person who put the questions together did not seem to be a native English speaker. A few questions were difficult to answer because there was conflation, e.g. one about being romantic, sentimental, sensitive and thin-skinned? I am not the first two; I am the second two, so how to answer that kind of question and avoid having too many 3s was a challenge.

I'm satisfied, however, with the results. I also respected the work that went into this--not a 25 question HelloQuizzy type of test.


My results which are certainly in the ballpark, although on another Socionics test I scored INTp, this time, much more detailed, I got:


Most likely was INFj or EII at nearly 1.5

Second most likely was INFp or IEI at 1.25

Third most likely was ISFp or SEI at 1.20

Fourth most likely was ISFj or ESI at 1.00

Fifth (and only extraverted) was ENFj at .055

***

Least likely was SLE or ESTp at - 1.75 (tied with 2nd least likely)

Second least likely was ISTp or SLI at - 1.75 (tied with 1st least likely)

Third least likely was ENTp or ILE at - 1.25

Fourth least likely and close to 3rd least likely was ENTj or LIE at - 1.20

Fifth least likely was ISTj or LSI at - 0.75

===================================================================


The last type I had listed on this forum was MBTI - INFJ

I tested via Humanmetrics for 7 years as INTJ, and INFJs are often mistyped as INTJs, so I am going to take out Unknown and replace it with INFJ.

***

I was able to take it again today; the test makers made some changes.

I came out SEI which was third last time. This time I chose perhaps four or five 3 (neutral) answers; last time I took the test maker's advice and avoided 3 answers.

I was almost on the line for ISFP and INFP and I scored on the side of intuitive but came out ISFP because, I would think, other categories, my answers in them, received a bit more weight.

I came out highest, really far over, for ethical and introverted, then peripheral.

Nothing else came close.

My Ni and Ne were close with Ni barely beating Ne, and this is consistent with keys2cognition tests I've taken, and other tests, too.

Ti was .25 higher than Te.

Fi was twice as highly scored as Fe.

Dynamic was my third highest after first place for ethical--almost on the farthest right for ethical, and then introverted was at about 75% positive.

I got slight obstinacy, a bit more intuitiveness.

***

For types, it was SEI, EII as a close second (INFj), and IEI (INFp) then IEE (ENFp)and ESI (ISFj) not far behind IEE.

The only extravert was ENFp, and that's not possible. I don't match the type except in short bursts if I'm getting to brainstorm with someone, or if the person I'm talking to and I click enough for banter, and then goodbye.

Or like the breeder for Pieper and Murphy? We have rat love and interest in common so if not for my lack of energy, she and I could have talked rats for a long time, but then what. (Rhetorical.)

Same would be true of someone interested in Vipassana meditation, or more to the point, like I do, "practicing it"; we could talk for a long while if my energy were good, but that would be that.

Unlike my husband I cannot jump from one subject to another, especially politics and sports and tee vee programs, movies, all the social media stuff; I am not interested or knowledgeable about any of that, and he is, wow: I don't know how he keeps up, he's so busy!

When I had my son to support, I could jump from subject to subject--leading others to believe (not all, but most) that I was extraverted.

No, I was desperately poor, afraid to be alone, had intense anxiety, and most importantlly? I lead where we went, what we talked about--not the other way around, whereas my husband can rock and roll, going where someone wants to go, and even encouraging them.

The only people I like to encourage to talk and I listen--again when I have the energy, which is less and less often these days, are old, experienced people:

I enjoy hearing about times different than now; about cultures unlike my own, or somewhat like my own that required more care, a less greedy mindset. And if the old person has interesting stories, e.g. my mammaw rode horses bareback, I sit back and lead them to more and more stories like this...

That's it.

Interesting results when I gave more 3 answers; I wonder how the test-maker evaluated the 3s; also, the language issue is still alive--a couple questions I answered by ignoring a word or two, and hoping I understood what they were looking for.

I don't recall much if anything about art, music, religion, and some other topics that would seem relevant such as the health of the person taking the test, because disease states certain skew answers and we can come up with false positives for many answers that we wouldn't if health were taken into consideration.

NOTE: Consistent? My least likely types were the same this time: No

 

[DavidH]

@BranchMonkey. The Ego of IEI is the contact social of SEI and vice versa. It's plausible you have mistaken your contact functions for your Ego.

 

[owlet]

I've taken this test a few times over a period of time and my results often vary wildly - I've scored LII, ILI, IEI, SLI.