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Prominent Type 5 fictional characters ?

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#1 ·
Especially protagonists, anti-heroes or antagonists
 
#3 ·
Joel (ISTJ 5w6) from The Last Of Us
Jean-Baptiste Grenouille (ISTP 5w?) from The Perfume
Effy Stonem (INTJ 5w4) from Skins
 
#5 ·
I think you can find a lot of 5's in anime/manga.
Death Note is probably chock full of them. Light... L
People have looked into the Metal Gear series before, you can probably find 5's in some of the main characters there.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Light feels morally superior and want to correct the world... This is completely One.

EDIT: I wonder if Spike (Cowboy Bebop) and Lain are 5s.
 
#9 · (Edited)
Off the top of my head...

Spiderman 5w6 sx/soc
Beast 5w4 soc/sx
Stephen Dedalus (Ulysses) 5w4 sp/sx
House MD 5w6 soc/sx
Sherlock Holmes 5w6 soc/sx
Scarecrow 5w6 sp/sx
Mr. Burns 5w6 soc/sx
Main character from "The Vanishing"- 5w6 sp/soc

Joel from The Last of Us seems sp/sx 6w5-3w4-1w9 to me...great game though.

Not sure about the Metal Gear games. I can't think of any blatant 5s there...Psycho Mantis possibly 5w6 sx/sp.

I suspect Dax from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is 5w6 soc/sp but not positive. Agent Scully from The X-Files seems 5w6 of some kind. Mulder on the other hand is 6w5 (I think).

There are a ton...5w4s much less common though.

I watched a bit of Deathnote...Light is either 3w4 or 1w9 imo, leaning 3w4 though. Based on my limited experience with Bebop, Spike seems 7w6 to me.
 
#10 ·
Off the top of my head...

Spiderman 5w6 sx/soc
6w7 So/Sx is where I would place him.

The character may have started out as a 6w5 though, when he was first created. But Stan Lee decided he had to be more relatable, so he made him more outwardly quirky and started writing him as more scattered and 'likable.' Ingratiating even.

Parker is very outwardly focused, constantly checking in with reality and the people around him to make sure he keeps his life 'on track.' Disapproval is hell to him. That's Attachment triad right there, not Rejection triad.
 
#11 ·
That's an interesting take...for some reason he just feels 5w6ish to me, on the "lighter" side in the sense that he's more extraverted and social. That's partly why I ascribe him sx/soc. 6w7 is a clear possibility though. What do you think for his other fixes? Head fix aside, I'd say 3w2 and 1w9. It's tough though because he's a character who has undergone so many interpretations over the years...to the point where the essence of his character is basically impossible to pigeon-hole.
 
#15 ·
He seems more 6 than 5 to me because he's always been portrayed as frenetically running after every thing that happens to him. As if he can't ever quite catch up. It takes him a very long time to take the reigns of his own life in his hands. Which is opposite from type 5, who does everything in their power to make sure they don't leave anything to chance.

As for his fixes, I agree with 3w2. I suspect he might have a 9w1 fix over 1w9, mostly because, even though he definitely cares about holding up to his personal morals, he seems to lack the resentment and judgement of other people's actions. But I could see a case for either.
Also, the writers write with the 'every-man' in mind, which would line up nicely with the 369 tritype, but that in itself isn't exactly an argument for it, ofc.
 
#14 ·
He's all about mind power. I used to type him at 4w5 - that was ridiculously stupid of me. Just look at these "mind power" oriented lyrics..

Christine:
In sleep he sang to me
In dreams he came
That voice which calls to me
And speaks my name
And do I dream again
For now I find
The Phantom of the Opera is there
Inside my mind

Phantom:
Sing once again with me
Our strange duet
My power over you
Grows stronger yet
And though you turn from me
To glance behind
The Phantom of the Opera is there
Inside your mind


Christine:
Those who have seen your face
Draw back in fear
I am the mask you wear


Phantom:
It's me they hear

Both:
My/your spirit and your/my voice
In one combined
The Phantom of the Opera is there
Inside your/my mind

Offstage:
He's there the Phantom of the Opera!

Phantom:
In all your fantasies
You always knew
That man and mystery

Christine:
Were both in you


Both:
And in this labyrinth
Where night is blind
The Phantom of the Opera is there
Inside your/my mind

Christine:
He's there, the Phantom of the Opera!
(Vocalizing)

Phantom:
Sing, my angel of music!

Christine:
(Vocalizing higher)

Phantom:
Sing for me!

Christine:
(Vocalizing higher)

Phantom:
Sing my angel of music!

Christine:
(Sings higher)

Phantom:
SING FOR ME!

Phantom:
I have brought you
To the seat of sweet music's throne

To this kingdom where all must pay homage to music
Music
.
You have come here
For one purpose and one alone
Since the moment I first heard you sing
I have needed you with me to serve me
To sing for my music
 
#20 ·
Yeah, I'm thinking So/Sx for him, especially with his focus on duty. When he's in a relationship, and even when he's married, he still struggles a lot with being too scattered about his priorities. He tends to neglect his relationships in favor of a more generalized sense of duty.
Of course, living a double life tends to put that kind of strain on someone's personal life regardless of instincts.. but I still find it striking that he has to actively remind himself to remember to pay attention to his beloved.

He is so aware of his (self-imposed) responsibilities, that he spreads himself too thin. It definitely reminds me more of the broad focus of the Social instinct, rather than the laser-like focus of the Sexual instinct.
 
#22 ·
Hm why 1w9? I would see him as 8 fixed but I will admit I haven't thought that hard about his gut fix. I'd place his heart-fix at 4w3.

I say Sx/So because he makes the whole opera-house a social outlet for his music. This is very Sx/So. Sx/So people in general are known to take on a cause so intensely that their core essence becomes a symbol of that cause. They turn themselves into an emblem. Therefore the Phantom's expression of his Sx passion through the Social realm, and his sense that he can only be loved as a muse (symbol) but not as a man, strikes me as more Sx/So.

It also has to be taken in context with 5w4. No 5w4, or 4 for that matter, is going to be social in the sense of getting lost in crowds. It's more about what society MEANS to them personally.
 
#21 ·
Also sounds more 6ish than 5ish...that scattered motif. Granted 5-7 line = huge scatteredness, but 6s seem more upfront about it...hmm I'm seeing Spiderman as more 6w7 based on your suggestion. Also makes sense of how he grew from "just some nerd" to a superhero...I've never heard of a 5 seeing things quite that way. With 5 it's like they grow in a different way...largely decrying popular acceptance. Look at any 5 in a position of fame and they're either modest or very resistant. 6s on the other hand embrace their status in a super-hero kind of way. Hopefully that makes sense, lol.
 
#23 ·
Hah, it sure makes sense to me :)
And yeah, I was thinking of that too actually.. Peter Parker's whole dilemma was growing into the role of the hero, and being courageous enough to put himself out there. I can see a strong theme of Cowardice vs Courage in his story.

You also put Beast up as a 5, a Social 5 even, and I sure agree with that. I think it's a good contrast with Spider-man in how they approach the Social realm: Spider-man turns himself into the hero, he becomes courageous and stands up for those who can't. Beast, OTOH, focuses more on the behind-the-scenes political scene. And even though he also can be considered a superhero, this isn't his primary occupation.
Spider-man: courage and hero. Beast: control and influence
 
#30 ·
Perhaps, yes. He does tend to lack that underlying emotionality that most 5w4's have. Perhaps I'm just looking too much into him identifying with fear and wanting to embody it as 4-like.

Batman himself seems to have some 5-like tendencies. But I think he might be a 1 core.

EDIT: why 1w9 for Crane's last fix though? I don't really know what his gut type would be though.
 
#31 ·
I'm actually not sure about Scarecrow's gut. 1w9 seems too rigid. I lean 9w1 because he seems sort of refined in his demeanor. Also, I think Batman is a core 8w7...3w4 and 6w5 fixes. Compare him to commissioner James Gordon who is core 1w9. The Christian Bale Batman is core 6w5 though.
 
#32 ·
Scarecrow could be 9w1 last. He's very, very withdrawn. Have you played Arkham Knight? He is very withdrawn with his anger there.

Bats definitely has some 8. I wouldn't reject him being core 8. I think he does have 1 in there some where though. His sharp discipline and perfectionist idealism seems to be kind of 1-ish.
 
#33 ·
I've played Arkham Asylum...but not all the way through. I'm going more or less based on the Cillian Murphy character and various pics from the comics.

I'm wondering if the 1 you see in Batman is really his 6 fix. Kind of like I said before, Gordon has the 1w9 fix/core...can see none of that in Batman.
 
#44 ·
Ah. That may be partly why we differ. I love Cillian, but I don't care for how Crane was written in that trilogy.

Arkham Asylum Crane wasn't my favorite either, he was portrayed more true to character in Arkham Knight.

Yeah. I get 1, 6, and 8 a little jumbled sometimes. Especially CP 6 and 8.