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Do Type 5 INFP's Really Exist?

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#1 ·
Do type 5 INFP's really exist, or are they just mistyped INTP's? I don't understand how a "head" type can have introverted feeling as a dominant function.
 
#111 ·
The test said I was 1 5 6, but then I took a different one, and I was 1 8 7. I must say that I am wholeheartedly 5. I'm probably a 4v5 INFP. So uh yeah. You are probably like me. Now, I could go into explaining how I know, but no. I'm not going to. I'll doubt myself, think I'm INTP, then figure out why I'm INFP again. Its a viscious cycle of self doubt I tend to go through. For whatever reason, (probably my incredible ability for restraint) they test me as 1. Meh.
 
#114 ·
An INFP 5w6 here, so yes, I think you could say that we do exist. I think that with any Jungian personality type comes a sub type, in this case being the Enneagram. Not all INFPs are the same, so there are going to be many of us who prefet using logic rather than sentiment. It just depends on the individual.
 
#117 ·
Last time I checked, I did exist :)

I'm a 5w4 sx/sp, and I can easily be confused for a 4w5. While I do like to explore and analyze my emotions, i don't want to stay in that headspace for too long. For the most part, I see my emotions as obstacles especially if I am trying to accomplish something.
 
#120 ·
I'm sure it's possible, Enneagram theory and MBTI study different parts of a personality.
 
#121 ·
This 5w6 INFP was very relieved to find the '5 categorization' as reading it felt in many ways like coming home. I can say for a certainty that many INFP's enjoy being as deeply rational and logical as they do experiencing feeling and emotion.

I finally understood my pathological impulse to research. Knowledge is reassuring for 5's and our emotions help us process, file and balance the huge amount of information that our more practical side impels us to gather.
 
#122 ·
haha I've been agonizing over whether I was a 5w4, a 4w5, or even a 6w5 and I finally determine that yes, I am a 5w4. Then I see this thread and I'm like "oh no."

But I have been researching, trying out other possibilities for some time now, and 5w4 is what I keep coming back to, even though I am an INFP. And before anyone questions it: I am certain about my mbti type. I am just an INFP driven to seek knowledge and competency. Unless one is going by the stereotypical, superficial e-type descriptions, I don't understand why this is so surprising.

For what it is worth, my F/T percentages are always close on tests (single-digit difference), that may be my etype's influence at work.
 
#123 ·
I sure hope so, or else my very existence is questioned... Although perhaps it'd be a nice change to exist in some observational realm.

I have to say, I am most definitely an INFP and apparently 5w6. Odd, sure, but it makes a lot of sense to me. I am perhaps the only INFP studying a hard science of whom I know (Chemistry degree, theoretical/physical), but it makes a lot of sense to me. As an INFP, I am a true idealist, a dreamer, and I like to dream up possibilities deemed entirely illogical and irrational by most other types. I also notice finer details and I personify everything in life. So with Science which you might agree is definitely predominated by head types suits me as a 5w6 INFP because I have the capacity to think logically enough to understand and contribute to hard facts and discussions, but also the ambition enough to challenge common perceptions and revolutionise "impossible possibilities". It is also interesting to note my way of thinking about such subjects. When thinking of molecules/simulations/equations/fact, I think emotionally, with my head. If that makes any sense. I am applying logic to feeling and vice versa. So I can think logically about a system, but I can dream about its shape and think of it like a dance, often talking about atoms as sentient beings and wondering what it would be like to be a Ca atom etc and all of such whacky craic.

I also notice in my life that when thinking abstractly and when thinking about my own thoughts and feelings, I am whole-heartedly a completely irrational INFP to the core, and feeling heavily predominates my thoughts. But I also have an acute ability to focus in and analyse situations to which I do not feel heavily involved, so while I can recognise and empathise with how other people are feeling without them even knowing, I can also understand why they do/say what they do/say and can apply logic and reason to whatever obstacles might come up.

It's an odd type, INFP 5w6, but it works. Just a bit of an outcast and a walking paradox, but there's nothing misconceived or hypocritical about it. I think the hardest part about it is the conflict within, regarding what to do next: do I engage in my altruistic side full of autonomy and teach English as a foreign language abroad in China for the culturally rich experience and the sheer wonder of it all, or do I continue with study/presentations/long hours of analysis with computer simulations and acute degrees of measurement in the lab. Etc. It's a constant battle, but I think being a head type INFP allows you to really understand and engage with what you're thinking about what you're feeling and what you're feeling about what you're thinking and it's all very airy fairy philosophical, but with a point. I understand it and I get it, but it's very difficult to explain.

We definitely exist though. Just kind of somewhere between reality and somewhere else, but it's all interconnected.
 
#124 ·
Hmm I've identified myself as 4w5 but I've often been doubting it and a lot recently.

When I was studying sound design, our main teacher introduced us to enneagrams and typed me as a 5; when I took the test he gave us (and every time since) I had high equivalent score on 4 and 5 and everything else way below.
I do identify strongly to both descriptions of 4 and 5 and I told my teacher (and I still feel the same) that I feel like a 4 on the inside but like a 5 on the outside.
And this is where I am confused : I seek and EMBRACE emotions, I do not try to suppress nor repress them, BUT I do that almost exclusively internally (like in secret) and I share it extremely rarely with others. Thus I can't fully identify with any type because I'm not "emotionally expressive" to most people but I definitely don't repress emotions either. I give an outer sense of detached emptiness but feel an intense inner turmoil.

Regarding MBTI, I've been consistently testing and identifying as INFP but with frequent doubts and questions whether I could be INTP or INFJ instead. Maybe being a 5w4 INFP could explain that?
 
#125 ·
5w4 INFP here, it's more about being 'fear' driven. Not knowing, ect. I tested as an INFJ on some bogus test for a while and thought that's what I was but SO not INFJ when I really looked at the functions. All you 'need' to be five is fear driving you to seek out researching and knowledge in general. Fear of being ignorant, incompetent ect. Ti and Fi are very very very very very very similar as someone stated earlier in this post the only 'core' difference is: Fi is a value based logic and in a way so is Ti. The difference is the 'selective nature' of Ti is able to disregard personal values, whereas Fi isn't able to or finds it painful.

Also, for me personally I tend to like having someone very 'logical' double check my ideas ect. This is because yes, I may be INFP but I can use hard cold logic and do often it's just not as easy as making an Fi decision... The issue is I don't trust it fully or feel completely comfortable going off it without someone else 'double-checking' it since I'm not comfortable just tossing it out there right away because it doesn't always sit well with me. Example: Knowing something is true, but it not feeling right inside.
 
#129 ·
I am possibly an INFP and my ennegram is 5w6. I relate completely to the 5w6 description.
I've doubted my personality type a lot. I can't relate to anything in the "You know youre an INFP when..."-thread. Though I am very INFP-ish but I also have this very detached, scientist-ish, cold, logical and challenging side of me. Could I possibly be a mixture of both?

I'll link a thread I made about this, feel free to try and figure out what my type could possibly be. :bored: http://personalitycafe.com/whats-my-personality-type/602450-what-could-my-personality-type.html
 
#131 ·
When females reach menopause testosterone gradualy take over from estrogen, apperently changing our personality type more in the direction from feelers to thinkers thus moving from 4 to 5 caracteristics.
 
#133 ·
5w4 INFP here. I always had a hard time identifying myself as an INFP mainly due to how the stereotypes don't fit me at all so I always though I would be an INTP. Most of the tests I've taken usually shows up as INFP so it was quite confusing to me. I had to dig a bit deeper into the cognitive functions to understand why I was getting those results. I know a lot of the online tests can be really bad at mistyping you so I went to as many online resources that I can find. Learning about Ti vs Fi made me realize that I am an Fi dominant user as I'm always aware of my feelings even when I'm making an objective decision and being analytical. I also have some very strong values that I'm quite willing to fight over tooth and nail and there is numerous times I would choose to do something the felt right to me as oppose to something that I know would be more rational. I was able to figure out my Te as my inferior as I would get very nasty, hyper critical, and very sarcastic whenever someone pisses me off or I was in a bad mood in general. This catches some people off guard as I'm usually very nice and patient. That being said however, whenever I hear a Fi user talk about something really unrealistic or just plain bizarre I get this strong desire to pick their reasons apart by pointing out all the inconsistences in their explanations. A lot of times I try to be nice as I don't want to hurt their feeling or cause a confrontation (though if they are interesting enough I will listen to their explanation just so I can figure out how the hell they came to that conclusion).

A Type 5 INFP is quite possible due to our inferior function being Te. Sometimes it can be quite hard to figure it out especially if it is well developed while you were growing up. The description for Type 5s sometimes mentioned about being detached to your feelings in order to gather more information but that is not fully accurate. It would be better to say that we become detached from the outer would in order to deal with our fears. A type 5 would be afraid of being incompetent or useless which a stressed out INFP might be feeling if they are on a Te grip. Also the Fi function is very similar Ti as they both judging functions that relies on building a logical framework whether it's based on feelings and values or impartial thoughts. Also an Fi function can simulate Ti as sort of an dipping function that they can use along with their Te.
 
#134 ·
According to this poll, with around 2000 votes, it is the third most common for infps.

I didn't think any enneagram fit perfectly, but I think five was the best fit for me, even if some things didn't apply.