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I wasn't suggesting that anyones intuition or instincts were wrong, invalid, or to be overlooked, just that from my own extensive experience people are much more 3-dimensional than anyone can analyze, no matter how many psych classes they have under their belt. That, or maybe I just haven't been bit enough times to find the need to judge people so quickly.
 
The issue that I have in almost every situation is that my social skills are so incredibly limited that just today, I let a more-or-less perfect human slip through my fingers...

He was fairly attractive, had an intense interest in le science, had a sense of humor I could agree with, and appeared to love tossing ideas around and collecting as many as he could--just talking about shit and rolling it over as thoroughly as possible, always asking questions...being as I was in class with him, it was fairly easy for me to find this stuff out. Why I didn't man up, so to speak? Feelings of inadequacy.

It's not that I'm unlovable, I guess. It's that I'm totally harshing MY OWN mellow.
 
Maybe I should become a matchmaker or something for PerC members. I swear I can find at least a few dozen individuals who will at least be able to have awkward inferior-Fe driven sex with each other.
 
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Maybe I should become a matchmaker or something for PerC members. I swear I can find at least a few dozen individuals who will at least be able to have awkward inferior-Fe driven sex with each other.
Go for it. From what I've seen on PerC, it seems the world is full of:

1. INTPs looking for love.
2. Non-INTPs who are dying to make INTPs notice them.
 
I don't feel unloved (platonically), but unlovable, yes. I just try not to think about it too much (difficult), and focus on what I DO have.
 
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I actually tried being nice a girl on last evening and magically... she was nice back. All I had to do was refrain myself from trying to strangle her for having dubious intelligence.
 
Go for it. From what I've seen on PerC, it seems the world is full of:

1. INTPs looking for love.
2. Non-INTPs who are dying to make INTPs notice them.
Maybe I should become a matchmaker or something for PerC members. I swear I can find at least a few dozen individuals who will at least be able to have awkward inferior-Fe driven sex with each other.
You should make a business out of it.
It'll become a billion-dollar industry.
You could make a website, maybe "intplove.com" or something, where all of us awkward INTPs could have profiles where we moan about how hard life is and then some nice people find us and then the awkward INTPs will shout, "Yayyy!!!" and meet the nice people IRL...
Where they find out that the nice people are actually serial killer ESxJs who are trying to kill us off.
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You're welcome.
 
You should make a business out of it.
It'll become a billion-dollar industry.
You could make a website, maybe "intplove.com" or something, where all of us awkward INTPs could have profiles where we moan about how hard life is and then some nice people find us and then the awkward INTPs will shout, "Yayyy!!!" and meet the nice people IRL...
Where they find out that the nice people are actually serial killer ESxJs who are trying to kill us off.
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You're welcome.

My my, what a vivid imagination you have.
 
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A few points;

You're not entitled to a new persons affections. You need to earn it in the same way you need to earn a high mark in uni; be well dressed, look after your body, practice and improve social skills like any ther discipline. Yes, if it's right it's right and you will meet people regardless, but take some responsobility for your own success.

On the opposite side, my friend pointed out that relationship hunting is frustrating because (especially NT types) are used to getting what we want by making the effort to get it. This isn't true in relationships because your only success comes about when BOTH parties make some effort. Otherwise it gets tiring.

Also, big time urgh to the false dichotomy of short relationship vs meaningful relationship. I've got a lot out of smaller relationships as well as longer ones. There's no reason to disregard a relationship that doesn't go as long an DEFINATELY no reason to regard short as meaningless.

I think our own sense of superiority can sometimes make us come off as a prats. Try to genuinely values other people's skill sets and knowledge sets. Sometimes something special happens where she will pick up on the passion you have in your field of interest and dive in with you at the same time as you'll get interested in her field. This leaves you starting out on a mutual journey of discovery, which is lots of fun.
 
I know that NTs are disproportionately "forever alone" types. Do you guys ever feel unlovable? I am feeling that way right now. I just feel that no girl will ever like me. My rational mind tells me that this is bullshit, but my Ti is losing to my Fe on this one. When I look at Facebook, it seems as if everyone has some SO. But I feel like I dying of thirst in the Sahara in comparison.

How do you cope?
Is that you on the pic? dont worry, you will not be forever alone. Actually, quite FEW people are actually forever alone. So using logic... why should you be in that small group of people? Some smart people here has written that true happiness can only come from within yourself, so dont seek it in another person. Although I totally get your sahara desert feeling. I feel like that too. Although, I easily meet guys who like me, seems I get stuck with the ones who doesnt really want me that much anyway.
ahh yadayada good luck! *hug*
 
I do sometimes worry that I'll just never have a boyfriend. I like my own personality and I don't think I'm hideously unattractive, but there are rare occasions when I just think...every other girl is going to be skinnier and prettier and flirtier and girlier. I would make a great girlfriend, I know I would, but there are loads of other girls who have what I have and more.

There's a girl in my year who very nearly made dux. She gets 95%+ in every test or prelim. She's tall and thin, with a perfect hourglass figure. Her hair is thick and wavy and half-way down her back. Her face is gorgeous. The pretty obvious downside to her is her personality - she has a constant sarcastic quality to her voice, and you can never tell when she's actually being insincere. It's not in a particularly bitchy way or anything. She just doesn't have a particularly warm, friendly manner. Still, she's popular and goes to parties and has a good life.

It would seem sensible to assume that people are balanced in terms of good and bad attributes, but sometimes I can't help feeling that it's as simple and fair as that. It sucks, but maybe some people are objectively better than others.

Then I give myself a shake and make a mental note: when the time comes, just make the bloody first move.
 
Is that you on the pic? dont worry, you will not be forever alone.
The curse of being male is having to be "pursuer". Doesn't matter how attractive you are if you're not "proactive". And you have to do that with charisma, which many INTP's actually have, but because of inferior Fe insecurity they don't believe in themselves.
 
Nah, I'm desperatly in love with an intp, but he's not so interested. I think he's great, and he thinks I'm weird. Which is partly true but... Anyway, when I want someone I do the pursuing! There's plenty extraverted girls who dont mind making the first move. I just hope OP will run into one :)

The curse of being male is having to be "pursuer". Doesn't matter how attractive you are if you're not "proactive". And you have to do that with charisma, which many INTP's actually have, but because of inferior Fe insecurity they don't believe in themselves.
 
Well, yeah. Feeling unlovable even as few people act in a way that seems to prove otherwise. Though, really, the mantra that's been going on in my head these days is this: Get over yourself, egotistical bitch. Inadequacies and what not, clearly he just pities you or sees you as merely a friend, a potential "let's roll in the hay and have some fun!" type of FWB.

I want to kill this version of me, the over-analyzing (and I say this now, it has become severely detrimental to my well-being) and constant devaluing/deconstructing whenever somebody wants to get close. Then don't brood over the fact that they're cautious about opening up more so, when you can't even love your fucking self.

There's this INFX dude that I've taken a liking to, but it is nothing sexual. I can't seem to take a liking towards someone in a sexual way if they don't open up to me. That's just how I tick, and I try to say fuck all, and just roll around with him but it never progresses much beyond cuddlez. I know, it _is_ my call as he's said so. But really, until I fix myself ... don't see him opening up anytime soon. Understandably so, but whatever feelings I have for him seems very passive and one-sided. I say this now, "understandably so..." but where does the anger go to? me. Not the unsupportive **** around me that drag me down, because let's face it - no one is a giver or a receiver but everyone is a giver and a receiver at the same time. So who am I to judge, others for the suffering they've unintentionally or not, inflicted onto me. Who am I to judge, myself so critically then? Wish I wasn't so fragmented, though. When you're living as a phony, trying to live up to these imaginary set of standards that would make you less "inadequate" but are realistically unobtainable at the present moment, well not all of them anyway. Do you just throw yourself away then, or get up and put on your own bootstraps? Why do my efforts seem futile, and I can never get out of this hole even as ropes are being thrown down to me? Because I put these inadequacies on a pedestal. Though, if I take these feelings of lack, away, I am fearful of what I might do or be.
Perhaps it is wise to just let go, let things be by just fucking letting go of all the self-hate, anger, feelings of inadequacy and god fucking damn it what will it take to shut my brain off.
 
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