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#22 ·
superloco3000 said:
You can learn more about how to use money from a small kiosk that has been running for 5 years than from a Harvard professor.
Universities only teach you the "Poor mentality" ( Living by paycheck , even if extremely high ) even careers as business Administration only teach you how to use other persons assets .


So yeah , You can even have the "Poor mentality" when you are politician , without that high salary ( and the state )they probabily couldn't compete against a hot dog seller.
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You have no idea what you're talking about relative to university curriculum and the advantages that can be gained by attending these institutions. A nickel and dime kiosk 'education' can't hope to match the advanced curriculum from Harvard, for big picture finance and economics. Analogous, attempting to lecture me on psychiatry because you've taken an anti-depressant and felt better.

Also, my point really has nothing to do with educational systems. It's to do with the MBTI types that most likely will attend these establishments and that the gifted population income will be substantially higher than the norm.
 
#23 ·
Ewok City said:
I think Elon Musk might be an INTP. I don't know why people are so set on the stereotype of hardworking TJs and laid back TPs.
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success + public spotlight, fame, celebrity + the so called cool factor.

the same trends follow with people typing other celebrities and fictional characters.

NTJs get typed as neutral/lawful 'evil' or amoral oligarchs, intjs with the intellect, entjs with the power in crisp well tailored suits or domination outfits.

NTPs - genuis is insanity or knowledge lacks common sense tropess.

entp get typed as technovangelists at best and stereotypical trivia geeks to cult leaders at worse...

intp get typed as school shooters, incels, losers, the tragic monster. people that might be bright but weighed down by defects. they're left to movies of the week and dramatized psa. . .
 
#24 ·
I don't accept those descriptions. IQ and EQ have a huge effect on how someone is perceived and I've never met anyone who legitimately thought I was evil. In the US, evil people get nowhere in life.
 
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Scoobyscoob said:
I don't accept those descriptions. IQ and EQ have a huge effect on how someone is perceived
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I agree! :)

I have a lot of xNTJ friends, and they're completely different from the stereotypes.

17041704 said:
I'm more interested in knowing how they came up with the data and what they did with it.
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I have a feeling that the sample size isn't too large at the first place.
 
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incision said:
Also, my point really has nothing to do with educational systems. It's to do with the MBTI types that most likely will attend these establishments and that the gifted population income will be substantially higher than the norm.
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So I know a lot of people who attended those elite universities in the US... The most common similarity among them is having well-to-do or at least highly educated parents. I'm sure certain types are still overrepresented but I don't think it's a major factor, at least not more significant than class and parent education level.
 
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incision said:
You have no idea what you're talking about relative to university curriculum and the advantages that can be gained by attending these institutions. A nickel and dime kiosk 'education' can't hope to match the advanced curriculum from Harvard, for big picture finance and economics. Analogous, attempting to lecture me on psychiatry because you've taken an anti-depressant and felt better.

Also, my point really has nothing to do with educational systems. It's to do with the MBTI types that most likely will attend these establishments and that the gifted population income will be substantially higher than the norm.
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Yeah I've been lectured by that faux-intellectual superloco3000 several times too. Comes across as a kid who thinks he knows the entire mechanics of the planet just from sitting in his bedroom and pondering for a couple of hours. It's sad and infuriating in equal measure. Dunning-Kruger effect at maximum.
 
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HAL said:
Yeah I've been lectured by that faux-intellectual superloco3000 several times too. Comes across as a kid who thinks he knows the entire mechanics of the planet just from sitting in his bedroom and pondering for a couple of hours. It's sad and infuriating in equal measure. Dunning-Kruger effect at maximum.
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Guys like him are the reason why I was reluctant to participate in online discussions. It is easy to say extremely stupid and toxic stuffs when you are behind a computer screen.
 
#33 ·
Idk exactly what my IQ is, but I think from what I have generally gathered from tests I've taken I always score within the top 10% of the population at least. But I'm an ISFP, so it automatically makes my IQ seem 20 or 30 points lower. Lol. And it makes me wonder if maybe I'd be in at least the top 1% if I was an INTP or INTJ, and maybe I'd seem like I'm in the top 0.2%. Who really knows?
 
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Interesting. I wonder if there is some info somewhere that also shows how much difference there is within the groups when it comes to income. I would not be surprised if some groups, many INxx and IxxP seems quite likely, have both quite a lot of wellpaid, but also unemployed/partially employed. (I mean, it is likely more important what connections etc you have, so there will be differences in all groups, but I wonder if there is more spread in some groups).

It seems to be a very clear pattern, when the rest of the letters are the same, that:
E earn more than I
T earns more than F
J earns more than P

N and S seems to be unclear.
I think it seemed like J/P was most important, but not sure, I didn't calculate anything, just by eyemeasure.

(edited, I had misread about s and n first, changed it)
 
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letsrunlikecrazy said:
So I know a lot of people who attended those elite universities in the US... The most common similarity among them is having well-to-do or at least highly educated parents. I'm sure certain types are still overrepresented but I don't think it's a major factor, at least not more significant than class and parent education level.
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This disregards an important component in my post, relative to the gifted population since that's the premise of the opening post. I'd like to see the parsing of the gifted population within these institutions. From my exposure, there are plenty of STs, whether STJs or STPs, likely moreso than at the liberal arts college from one of the MBTI gifted studies. My guess is that the numbers would shift a bit. I'm an NTJ so this isn't fangirling for STs, only an attempt at being objective.
 
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incision said:
This disregards an important component in my post, relative to the gifted population since that's the premise of the opening post. I'd like to see the parsing of the gifted population within these institutions. From my exposure, there are plenty of STs, whether STJs or STPs, likely moreso than at the liberal arts college from one of the MBTI gifted studies. My guess is that the numbers would shift a bit. I'm an NTJ so this isn't fangirling for STs, only an attempt at being objective.
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Prestigious universities tend to attract a lot of sensors since they're well known and attending one would amount to being more conventionally successful. Perhaps they would attract some ENTJ and a few INTJs since NTJs do sometimes adhere to being conventionally successful with perhaps attracting NPs, SPs and NJs as professors with SJs as administrators.
 
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Scoobyscoob said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the main difference between America and the Old World, especially in Europe.
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I would have to disagree about evil people getting nowhere in the US when you examine a lot of corporate leaders, billionaires, and politicians. In fact I think being evil can sometimes help them get ahead because they are more willing to sabotage and throw other people under the bus for their own greed and lust for power.
 
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Ock said:
I would have to disagree about evil people getting nowhere in the US when you examine a lot of corporate leaders, billionaires, and politicians. In fact I think being evil can sometimes help them get ahead because they are more willing to sabotage and throw other people under the bus for their own greed and lust for power.
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I would disagree but where you're from, that might very well be true. Where I'm from, never.
 
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Scoobyscoob said:
Prestigious universities tend to attract a lot of sensors since they're well known and attending one would amount to being more conventionally successful. Perhaps they would attract some ENTJ and a few INTJs since NTJs do sometimes adhere to being conventionally successful with perhaps attracting NPs, SPs and NJs as professors with SJs as administrators.
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My guess is that MIT would attracted more TPs and Harvard, Princeton and Stanford, TJs.
 
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