[superwaffles321]

So I will explain a type of 614. 6w5 1w2 4w5 that is.

6w5. Somewhat antisocial in a way. Kinda. Antisocial isn't the word I'm looking for, but I'll use it for now. Quiet. Introverted. Always thinking, constantly. Anxiety. Mistrustful. Suspicious. 6w5's wants answers and so they think so much and sometimes on some occasions ask others. They're interested in philosophy.

1w2. Strive for perfection. Helpers. Enjoy helping others. Wants to make things better, harmonious. That's about it.

4w5. They're emotional, but they think like a 5. 5's: philosophers.

Now, perennial hothead? LOL. Not sure how to describe it. Perennial means, almost forever. Usually angry, out bursting, not gracefully, it's a scary moment because it can be deadly, it's hilarious, but not when you're in that state. This doesn't always happen. But this tritype is usually angry when frustrated, dissatisfied, disgruntled?

This is what I can say about this tritype. For I am 99% sure that I am one. This isn't the best way to describe this tritype, I tried to, it isn't... Can't find the words... I can't be more complex of it but I tried anyways. I recommend to read those pdfs I mentioned that's left here on this thread. Or Google more about each type. It's better that way. I do hope this really helps. If not, lol, I tried. I only just wanted to help. To clarify. If anyone else, clarify the tritype. Add more information.

And please, if you comment on what i said, be nice, welcoming, a constructive one that is, constructive criticism, something that is NOT TROLLING and has to be helpful at least. Thank you. More information coming soon or later. Mostly later. I will, maybe, add better information. Pretty much a cut and paste. Or if anyone here goes ahead and adds the information. You're welcome to do it with no worries and no problems whatsoever.

Better not be any problems...

 

[Chtoffee]

Yes, yes! Me.
though I am an average type.

 

[intrasearching]

@superwaffles321 I'm an INFP 641 and your descriptions fit me quite well. I am 6w5, 4w5, 1w2.

I think I often move a little towards the unhealthy side of things because I constantly have the negative 3 disintegration qualities. I'm extremely aware of how I compare to others. I am not especially astounding or charming like a good 3. But I try in school to please the professors and show how smart or creative I think I am to the other students (when it's appropriate - like during presentations).

What you say about anger is true. This negative 3 quality is usually associated with a frightened, defensive, disdainful and annoyed fury. When people try to give me advice from a standpoint of misunderstanding me, I feel almost enraged. My image is extremely important to me. Yet, I am not a 3 at all. I tested for it many times and only possess a couple of the positive qualities of the type. So, it makes sense that I'm constantly experiencing the effects of 6 disintegration.

As for the rest, my 4 score is almost as high as my 6 score. This means self-expression, usually through poetry, is very important, meaningful, and comfortable. And being unique is very important as well.

With the 1w2 I constantly measure myself and my actions against my concepts of good vs evil. I have to do good as often as I can. If something destructive or "evil" happens in my environment, I am compelled to do something to change it. Like if I see someone being bullied. I will do something. With the 2, I find pleasure in helping others, making them feel pleasant, accepted, at peace, loved. And it seems that that quality plays into my very stringent conception of what it is to be a good,righteous person.

Also, the 6w5 means I'm quiet and observant, I value my ability to perceive things that others seem not to, to have original and powerful insight, and to share my knowledge and perspective when it's useful to others. And of course, I'm constantly anxious, worried, a little paranoid, certainly hypervigilant. And oddly enough, counter to my 4 wish to be totally unique and independent, I feel a strong, strong desire to fit somewhere. To be a functional and accepted member of a positive and supportive community. I hope someday I find a job that satisfies this desire because thus far in my life I've felt like a black sheep almost everywhere I go.

So yeah, I like finding out about 641 because it explains how I am quite well. And to anyone before me who was unhappy about the identification, I think it's valid to be proud, because I assume the lot of us are smart, careful, moral, creative people. And those are great things that you don't see everyday, especially not in one package.

EDIT: I apologize for any typos. I typed this out on my smartphone.

 

[Curiously]

Yes. 6-1-4 after all. Not 6-9-4. Realized I've much more superego than previously thought. It's been illuminating and helpful discussing the 1-fix with those who have it as a core or a fix or can provide insights on how to figure out one's gut-center. I've joked before that I'm a closeted 1. My 1-fix isn't as "hard-hitting" as others but it's definitely present in my internal structure of values, objectives, and codes. If anything, it has provided a true anchoring that has kept me more stable in times when I could have fed into my more defeatist, depressive spells. It gives me a backbone. An ability to persevere and stay focused against adversity. "This is MY code; I will abide by it. Try and stop me - and you'll die."

 

[SweetPickles]

Sweet! I haven't been here for a year (started back a couple days ago), catching up with all these responses. I can't believe it hasn't died /proud.

 

[SweetPickles]

I read the subtypes pdf and it was some of the best stuff I've read yet on type 6. Straight from the horse's mouth, I suppose.



I struggle with very painful self-consciousness and inhibition. The very reason I stay away from alchohol and drugs.

YES! Except apparently people like me better when I am drunk

 

[SweetPickles]

I've always been a lover of cats. As a kid it was mostly big cats (tigers, panthers, etc.), but it's evolved into a love of any and all felines. Plus, I tend to think of cats as the 6 animal mascot :tongue: Fits both wings, IMO.

Damn stereotypical rabbits and deer. I ain't no rabbit.
And I kinda hate dogs. Messy, loud, needy... Ugh, no thanks.

That's funny, I am one of those grown-ups who doesn't know what they want to be when they are grown-up. I picked business, because it was so broad...disillusioned then quit, became a nurse...disillusioned (the health care system is so fucked up), I am currently a housewife/stepmom...omg guess how I feel.

When asked what my passion is I usually state I don't know, but I have always had this strange fascination with tigers. I want to work with them haha! When I go to the zoo, I could watch them for hours which is lame because they are usually sleeping. I love their beauty and their danger. I respect them. I would volunteer to just clean their poop for a while if I'd eventually be able to interact, even just feed them lol.

 

[SweetPickles]

Somewhere on perc says 641 are especially hotheads. I'm a hothead, like I'm pissed off usually but I don't tend to explode in front of anybody. I try to hide it and suppress it. But since 4's are emotional, I am too, but I get that way when I'm too pressured, and that I say is my last line, like say the last layer of my armor, last defense. And then I blow up. And I get a little too crazy.

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::raises hand:: I am also a hothead, it can be amusing and comedic like or on the other extreme (very very rarely) so horrible and ugly I scare myself and feel shame. I do have a lot of anger inside, and have no idea why. I really have nothing to be so angry about.

Most of the time I am light-hearted, goofy but if triggered BAM! My husband loves this about me /sarcasm. Injustice really pisses me off.

 

[Daener]

Haha I'm really late to this thread but I just joined because I took a test and it said my tritype was a 6w5, 4w5 and 1w9. I don't know what that means though lol. Anybody out there can explain this to me? Also, for additional information the random free online personality tests i've taken type me as mostly ISFJ though i've gotten ISTJ sometimes too.

 

[Deejaz]

okay.. so I've been discriminated for being an INFJ because Hitler was one..
and now I'm also discriminated yet again because I have the same tritype as Hitler.

I feel like I should be like this :angry:
but I'm really like this

:laughing:

hmm.. :dry:

 

[Sweetish]

@Deejaz Take solitude in the fact that Hitler is dead, I guess? He's not the only criminal in that whole mess. He got thousands of people to rally behind his insanity, do his bidding, disable their ethical brain, convince themselves it was alright, turn a blind eye. However, there were people undermining his regime, there were people cleverly sneaking children out of the concentration camps in burlap bags slung over their shoulders, there were people following orders but at the same time breaking them.

As an aside, the movie "The Reader" touches on this idea that a whole nation of people were aware of what that one man was orchestrating among them, yet submissively they stood by without intervening. A young German man asks, why? how could they just let that happen? as a member of that nation, how could he ever pretend he is without guilt?

Hitler is only one person. He doesn't represent any one MBTI, just an example of a person who lost touch with reality and had a very twisted perception of group ethics- sort of like a lobotomy of compassion. If anyone compares you to Hitler based upon your MBTI they are entirely missing the point of healthy vs. unhealthy personality development.

I would hope that everyone has a sound board in their life who will help them to reflect on their health level often enough that they are never capable of falling into the delusional trap of righteousness and political sway that Hitler did. Somehow, he persuaded lots of people to do the wrong thing. Somehow, they willingly went along with it- or were compelled to when manipulated or blackmailed or felt that they were powerless to oppose the regime, valuing their own life above those of others.

Would you? Tough questions. What would each of us REALLY do in that situation? Perhaps, when held captive by sufficient fear, we would be just as corruptible? This is where the streak of counter-phobic 6 can really shine against forces of destruction, oppression, and "evil".

Then again, being counter-phobic could cause the very injustice that occurred in 20th century "Nazi Germany". We must question our loyalties, question them fiercely, and keep in mind that there are numerous groups out there who would demand our loyalty; we needn't blindly give it. We should also be very careful in dealing with anyone who would attempt to buy our loyalty, or use bribery, or coerce us into surrendering it. Let's not become complicit in "evil" due to ignorance nor oversight, regardless of which group we see ourselves as a member of.

 

[Roshan]

okay.. so I've been discriminated for being an INFJ because Hitler was one..
and now I'm also discriminated yet again because I have the same tritype as Hitler.

There is nothing resembling consensus on what Hitler's full tritype and stacking were; only main type 6w5 and that just barely. The Fauvres actually even type him as a 4 leading, which I find ridiculous and precious; actually I don't even think he was 4-fixed. I think it was 3w4, though I am in the minority on that. I mention this just to point out the lack of consensus.

But if anyone wants to discuss Hitler further, I would be happy to start a thread on him or continue one that exists, if they are willing to read Mein Kampf first from beginning to end.

 

[Roshan]

And as an aside, or perhaps better said, come to think of it and to get back to the main point of the thread, the post I just wrote is a pretty good example of 6-4-1 tritype in a nutshell.

(As is this one, come to think of it, parentheses and all... ).




ps And this most strangely....off-handedly googling Hitler/Enneagram, I find Katherine Fauvre saying it was first Naranjo in 1996 who typed him as an sx 4. Well, what can I say, Claudio's greatest contribution was never as a typer.

 

[Bitbydragonfly4]

It's not a fun one to be in, the explanations they give for us are pretty negative. We are our own worst enemy. Bonus points if you are a 641 as well as an INFP. It's a pretty crappy mix and we are often misunderstood and extremely hard on ourselves. Are there any out there? It would be amazing to find just one

Yes I’m an infp 641. Sorry it’s about 11 years after the post. I thought I had to be an infj if I were a 641, but I’m an infp. You found one.

 

[Ecto gammat]

I am a 461 infj. I love sixes. You guys are awesome. 💜

 

[Bitbydragonfly4]

I am a 461 infj. I love sixes. You guys are awesome. 💜

4s are awesome too. I wouldn’t be where I am today without God and an infj cousin which God created. He keeps me sane in this strange world. Anyways, I’m glad you found your tritype too. Anything is possible with God. I really believe that because I believe Jesus is who he says he is. Anyways, on another note, I hope we infjs and infps stick together in general. Anyways I don’t mean to get preachy, thanks for the compliment.

 

[Bitbydragonfly4]

Im trying to find my identity. I actually may be more of a 461 than 641. I’m either an infp, or isfj. I’m trying to find my purpose. Thought it was religion and teaching. But maybe that’s not it either. I wish I had answers because I’d share. All I know is I’m socially awkward and my own worst enemy. Maybe I’m projecting like a 6 or it’s genuine like a 4. Which means I had a hard time connecting with my parents.