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Are ENTP obsessed with people when they first befriend them?

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#1 ·
i notice this pattern in those guys i think are ENTPs
the start of our friendship, they act completely, openly obsessed with me. i just add them on fb and they like like 20 of my statuses at once, they inbox me whenever they see my blue dot is on, they try to meet you more in the future, they come to you at school break to talk about what you like that theyre not necessarily interested in
that to me, is suffocating, but im just too nice to let them know that
but eventually, they will be casual with you or just, not talk to you anymore, which makes you kinda miss them doing it, but its a "stockholm syndrome" kind of miss you know lol

so.. does that sound like you guys? or i just mistype those guys?
 
#3 ·
“Thoughts and feelings about information gaps underlie two additional motives for information acquisition or avoidance over and above the usefulness of information for improving future decisions. People may obtain information purely to satisfy curiosity.

Loewenstein (1994) proposed an information-gap account of curiosity, which provides insight about its situational determinants. There are many things that people don’t know and that don’t bother them, but awareness of specific pieces of missing information can prompt an unreasonably strong desire to fill these gaps. Our theory embraces the information gap concept and provides a new formal definition of an information gap. Our utility function assumes that people want to fill information gaps ceteris paribus (i.e., they desire clarity or dislike uncertainty), and this is a universal motive for information acquisition rather than avoidance.

We identify this motive as curiosity. We hypothesize that information avoidance derives from a second motive, a desire to avoid increasing attention on a negative anticipated outcome. More generally, we suggest that individuals have an inclination to acquire (or avoid) information whenever they anticipate that what they discover will be pleasurable (or painful).

Our fundamental assumption is that obtaining information tends to increase attention to it (as in Gabaix et al., 2006; Tasoff and Madaŕasz, 2009) to the extent that it is surprising. This leads to the implication that people will seek information about questions they like thinking about and will avoid information about questions they do not like thinking about.”

https://www.cmu.edu/dietrich/sds/docs/golman/Information-Gap Theory 2016.pdf
 
#4 ·
Well you describe it in a very extreme way. When I get to know a new person and I see that person also likes me I can give her a bright beam of my attention, totally focusing on them. Most people like to get attention, so I yet not got refused. But as I said, I do it only to people I know they want it. Losing that attention beam can hurt but it's just how we are. We found the next thing we are interested in. It's nothing personal, there are many other persons that experiences the same.
That attention beam is also like a tool for me. If I need a person to like me it's very easy to get them on my side that way. I don't want to say we generaly use it for manipulation but from time to time it happens.
 
#5 ·
Low shame, low self-awareness? ENTP are known to be open. They could be entp, but lets just call them extroverted perceivers.
Let them know its weird or they stay social retards. Is it so hard to tell people the truth in a nice way?
Like: "I dont mind blabla, but some people could think your weird..."
 
#6 ·
This is actually a great way to suss out if it is an ENTP or not.
Yes ENTP can be overbearing at first especially if they are the
type of ENTP to go hard with a few friends as appose to massive
amounts of people.

If you outright say to them that they are very aggressive socially
if it is indeed an ENTP they will most likley not take it to heart and
either defend the way they are acting giving reasons why or they
will respect what you have said and cull it back to a mutually decided
level that works.

Basically ...call them out on it. If it is ENTP they wont mind at all.
Actually they would prefer it. Saves the guess work and just lets us know whats up!
 
#7 ·
I agree with @jkp in it being an extroverted perceiver thing too (not necessarily ENTP). I have seen this from a couple verified ESFJs too so I think extrovert has more to do with this than perceiver. I know I can be guilty of being intense at first meeting people I like being around in my young years although I don't think I was ever obsessive. If they really are ENTP you can flat out say something to them without them getting offended.

I will say, I am really leery of people saying they meet a lot of obvious ENTPs. In my 41 years, other than myself, I have met only 3 obvious ENTPs and about 3-4 that are questionable. When you are one, it is much easier to spot one (kind of like gaydar in homosexuals). I think a lot of male ESTPs and ENTPs when they are young are hard to distinguish. I have seen a decent amount of INTPs get mixed up with ENTPs because a comfortable and excited INTP can dominate conversation just like an ENTP and if you become close to one, you will see this. Also male feelers can be confusing because in general, no matter what the function Thinking/Feeling, male Feelers do not "act" like textbook examples of their type since the feeling descriptions are often written about the majority of the gender of that type (which are more often female). My ENFP male boss is still very "man" in that he is somewhat oblivious to those feeling things like remembering to buy a cards, plan an elaborate gift for someone (or care that he gets gifts), he does not know what to do with an overly emotional person (the crying and fighting admins were quite funny to watch him deal with), etc. He also is very smart and can hold his own in intelligent conversations but I can tell that I am definitely more "Thinking" than him in that I look at things logically and he often has a much more subjective view point. He is also much less blunt than me and carefully chooses his words so that he does not offend the other person. He also is a hugger, to everyone, male or female.
 
#8 ·
Remember, not everyone you meet of a certain type behaves the same way. And when you're only listing negative attributes of people you know - it's possible to sound like you're exaggerating, just an observation.

All of the ENTPs I have met have been intense from day one, wanting to gauge me, ask questions etc. etc. and this can easily be read as obsessive but it's only obsessive if it is intrusive, or even if it isn't, if it isn't reciprocated by you. Dom Ne can be overwhelming even to other Ne users. To an Ni dom like myself, it can occasionally feels like I'm being pestered with never-ending questions.

With my ENTP first encounters, I never felt it was obsessive because I liked them back, but found their way of showing it was very different to mine. My way of showing someone I like them is subtle, I'll make an effort to reply to your messages as soon as I can, I ask you how your life is, I care about what you have to say and show interest in topics you like that I personally do not care for etc. The ENTPs in the beginning of our relationship were immediately argumentative (mostly in a playful, teasing way) from hour one - as if they were trying to suss out how far they could push me and what kind of conversation partner I would be.

I have not personally known any ENTPs to go stalking other people's pages online or anything similar. This doesn't negate your experience, but mine has differed.

In fact, the most prominent types I have known to stalk my pages or stalk me IRL and be obsessive in general are Fi doms and Ti doms.

The ENTPs I know have a wide range of friends and aren't unhealthily focused on one person, even a person they feel especially attached to. But any person, of any type can be obsessive depending on maturity, circumstance, communication etc. It's very possible that 1. you're either interpreting their behaviour as obsessive because you don't like them as much as they like you, 2. you do like them but their approach to showing it is overwhelming (in which case you need to communicate this otherwise it's hardly going to change) or 3. you have just been unlucky enough to meet obsessive ENTPs who are not reflective of the ENTP type as a whole but still if you're uncomfortable, you need to address the issue regardless of type. 4. you've mistyped them. All are possible.

Of all types, ENTPs are not ones I would generally peg as obsessive in the way you're describing. They are obsessive over ideas and wanting to try different things, but haven't been obsessively following my every step. Every type shows interest differently and to different degrees - are you sure they are EXXP?

If it bothers you that much, communicate that discomfort.
 
#11 ·
All of the ENTPs I have met have been intense from day one, wanting to gauge me, ask questions etc. etc. and this can easily be read as obsessive but it's only obsessive if it is intrusive, or even if it isn't, if it isn't reciprocated by you. Dom Ne can be overwhelming even to other Ne users. To an Ni dom like myself, it can occasionally feels like I'm being pestered with never-ending questions.

With my ENTP first encounters, I never felt it was obsessive because I liked them back, but found their way of showing it was very different to mine. My way of showing someone I like them is subtle, I'll make an effort to reply to your messages as soon as I can, I ask you how your life is, I care about what you have to say and show interest in topics you like that I personally do not care for etc. The ENTPs in the beginning of our relationship were immediately argumentative (mostly in a playful, teasing way) from hour one - as if they were trying to suss out how far they could push me and what kind of conversation partner I would be.
This. It's cool to call us obsessive. We see the end- the big picture. Even if it's not there. Usually if I find something or someone interesting, my imagination goes berserk. I start to think of all the wonderful possibilities that can come from that thing or person- I picture a long-term relationship with confessions, intimacy, adventures and whatnot. Thus, with such an intense positive outcome already ingrained in my head, I begin to yearn for it. This craving causes me to go into deep dive understanding mode which includes bombarding of questions, researching their personality, and yes even facebook stalking (they just don't know).
 
#9 ·
From reading your post, two things are clear
  1. You are probably in early college? or late school
  2. You are an introvert, and up to now just being nice in every situation gets you out of stressful, tiring scenarios

I think these guys just like you.
And when you are nice, they think you are giving them the green light, so they push.
When you close up, they give up and take the hint. These sound like pretty normal, awkward college guys.

@Geonerd is right, ENTP's are overtyped...If someone is loud, argumentative, rude, playful, silly, clowny, smart assy or just a jerk, they get automatically labelled ENTP, but that often is not the case. If 30 guys befriended you, there may be 1 guy who is an ENTP....maybe.
 
#10 ·
@Geonerd is right, ENTP's are overtyped...If someone is loud, argumentative, rude, playful, silly, clowny, smart assy or just a jerk, they get automatically labelled ENTP, but that often is not the case. If 30 guys befriended you, there may be 1 guy who is an ENTP....maybe.
True .. I was watching a few ESTP vid's and they can come off very
ENTP esq...or vise-versa I suppose ...yet there are far more ESTP actually
milling about out there.