Nope.

 

No.

 

No.

 

Nah.

 

Yes, in MBTI I actually typed INTJ the very first time I took a test. I also occasionally test as ENFP and ESTP. It wasn't until Socionics I discovered I'm really an ENTJ with very good Ni.

 

Enfp, estj.

 

I can't speak for your friend, but 16 Personalities typed me as an ENTJ 8+ times. I'm an ENFP though. My most recent result is

78% E
71% N
70% T
66% J
59% A

I think it's easy to mistype via tests because answers are based on your personal interpretation of questions and the test creator's assumptions of types' behavior. For example, I fully disagree with the below statement from the test and that might be seen as thinker behavior.

"If you had a business, you would find it very difficult to fire loyal but underperforming employees."

How loyal can they be if they're unwilling to do the job they were hired to do? What do they do, not steal the office supplies? I'm all about maintaining a high level of morale and performance. I've seen too many situations where bosses have not warned, redirected, disciplined or fired bad apples. If you're unqualified or incapable but managed to sneak into my team, I will fire you or discipline you... and I'll probably enjoy it.

If they had phrased the same question in a context of friendship, I'd struggle with that answer. I do "fire" friends but it's really tough for me. It takes me years. So in that case, I'd be classified by a test as a feeler!

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What makes you think your friend is an ENTJ?

 

What makes you think your friend is an ENTJ?

Entrepreneur. Extremely gifted at persuading others. Has the odd emotional outburst (but everything is forgotten 10 minutes later). Is obsessed with the future and with the various possibilities that it holds. Gets annoyed by how quiet I am. Very bossy.has great vision but not so great in day-to-day activities.

And yes I agree it is easy to mistype. I just took the test 15 minutes ago and it said I was closest to the ESTP profile, which makes me want to laugh, because I am nothing like that.

 

@RedOnion, I think you misunderstood me :bwink: It is not my belief that T doms behave that way, but that of test makers. That was my point.

Yes, stereotypes can be frustrating because frequently people misinterpret likelihood of something being true as 'this is absolutely true'. I totally agree with you that the environment, personal experiences/preferences, maturity level and culture have a strong impact! They are what define our behavior, either in terms of 'who I am' or 'what I never want to be.' Is it possible you missed the part where I wrote the below sentence?

I think it's easy to mistype via tests because answers are based on your personal interpretation of questions and the test creator's assumptions of types' behavior.

I wrote "I'd be classified by a test as a feeler" based on certain answers if those questions had been asked. Tests... stereotype and generalize a lot in order to make classification easy. That process will generate outliers and I, along with a few others, happen to be on that list.

There must be a way to make tests more accurate... I think it's a good business opportunity (80% of Fortune 100 business use MBTI tests and other tests). I hope someone works on it.

Anyway, I hope you see we are probably on the same page or at least in the same book :smile:

 

@RedOnion, I think you misunderstood me :bwink: It is not my belief that T doms behave that way, but that of test makers. That was my point.

Yes, stereotypes can be frustrating because frequently people misinterpret likelihood of something being true as 'this is absolutely true'. I totally agree with you that the environment, personal experiences/preferences, maturity level and culture have a strong impact! They are what define our behavior, either in terms of 'who I am' or 'what I never want to be.' Is it possible you missed the part where I wrote the below sentence?



I wrote "I'd be classified by a test as a feeler" based on certain answers if those questions had been asked. Tests... stereotype and generalize a lot in order to make classification easy. That process will generate outliers and I, along with a few others, happen to be on that list.

There must be a way to make tests more accurate... I think it's a good business opportunity (80% of Fortune 100 business use MBTI tests and other tests). I hope someone works on it.

Anyway, I hope you see we are probably on the same page or at least in the same book :smile:

Sorry if my reply sounded like an attack. It was not. I caught on to what you were saying. I was simply venting my frustration - in extension to your argument - that these tests are mostly inaccurate, biased and unable to capture the full scope of the human psyche to accurately place temperaments. On that note, I also don't think people are in one state of mind all the time and so may deviate based on circumstances. It is certainly an indicator, not a determinant - sadly, many people misinterpret that use it as a very large ruler and box (which frustrates me to no end).

On that note, my SO hates the idea of these tests and finds them a waste of time. I find it intriguing enough as a tool to understand people, but given that I am more interested to know someone than type them, I'm only about half-arsed on technicalities (as you may already be aware).

So yes, we are on the same plane.

 

ENFP to ENTJ? That's quite a difference. Older or in the grip ENFPs can be somewhat like ESTJs so this might be what you're observing.

As far as mistyping, yes, I initially mistyped as an INTJ (humanmetrics online test), prior to knowing anything about MBTI. But after learning more about MBTI and observing INTJs online, realised that I wasn't one.

 

ENFP to ENTJ? That's quite a difference. Older or in the grip ENFPs can be somewhat like ESTJs so this might be what you're observing.

Yes that would make sense.

 

I once got typed by someone as an ENTP. Although I have an affinity for bad puns, memes and debates...that's pretty much all I have in common with the 2 ENTPs I know.

 

INTJ in most case, a lot of people also type me as an INTJ.
For some time I believe I am INTJ

 

This.

Tertiary Se showed itself eventually.

 

Interesting. I was once mistyped as an ENFP too.

 

No. A friend who had studied a lot of mbti thought I was not an ENTJ, maybe ESTJ. Um, nope. I'm def ENTJ.

A bunch of people don't neatly fit into there type necessarily (eg. due to appearances). Doesn't change there type though

 

I actually used to get INTP on all the tests but an actual INTP kept insisting I was INTJ. After a year of believing I was INTP, I finally came to terms with INTJ but then an ENFP came along and told me I'm the stereotypical ENTJ. I said k and went on.

 

I mistyped myself as an ENFP in high school. I would have thought this to be a pretty rare occurance considering most ENFP stereotypes are quite distinct from ENTJ stereotypes, yet it's interesting to see from this thread that this is a relatively common occurance. In my case, I don't think I ever doubted the EN part, but the T/F part especially was murky from the way my high school friend group functioned. J/P is a hard dichotomy to distinguish in general from tests alone, but I just decided that I didn't care about group harmony enough to be an ENFJ. Hence, ENFP.

 

I think an ENTJ's hard on for objectivity is going to demand a test susceptible to human error is insufficient, and pick apart the type functions in relation to their common life and/or seek counsel of those better educated in the subject before making an adamant decision.

I discussed at length with more qualified people atypical deviations from the standard and seeming function disparity, but the logical result always came up the same. Actually, some friends would in the middle of postulating theories, and then blurt out at something I say, "No, you're a fucking ENTJ! Biggest, hardest, most unrelenting Te I've ever seen in my life!" (or something to that effect... I've learned to take such flattery with a grain of salt. :biggrin: )

 

Sometimes ESTJ or INTJ

 

No, it's been consistent over time!

 

Mistyped myself as an ENTP. I mean, I do love arguments and memes, but... No.

 

For me, you could make the argument for ENTJ, INTJ, INTP, or ENTP. However, I prefer Te over Ti and Ni over Ne. ENTJ/INTJ is a bit of a coin flip as there are stretches where Te and Se are more prevalent than Ni and Fi, respectively, but also vice versa. However, it feels more natural when I'm a Te dominant.

 

no definately ENTJ through and through.

 

I see the similarities in ENFP and ENTJ. The difference is that ENFP guides from within the crowd. It seems we'd work well together, dragging each other in and out.

 

My husband has never been mistyped in a test, but I thought he was an ESTJ for a while.

 

Until recently, I thought I was an INTP. Now that I have a better understanding of the functions, it's apparent to me that I'm an ENTJ.

 

I mistyped as ENTJ at first. But meh, I guess at that time that I took the test, I happen to be leading a group in university, so I want in an ENTJ sort of mood.

I took it several times after, without anything going on, and I kept getting INTJ instead. At first, I did think I was ENTJ, but I thought I'm only extroverted at times when there's a need to be.