I think ISFP's (and INFP's) as strong Fi users do tend to be more self-centric but not necessarily narcissistic. Technically narcissism is the belief that the self is the highest standard of perfection, but I don't think that strong Fi necessarily leads to this belief. (I think many Fi users tend to have overwhelming levels of self doubt in fact!) I'm a little biased though since I grew up with a bonafide diagnosed NPD dad, and that kind of narcissism is pretty serious trouble.

In my experience with the strong Fi users in my life, they tend to be strongly self-referencing and often lack the ability to perfectly read social cues like a strong Fe user can (an ENFJ, for example.) They also occasionally live in a sort of self-created "bubble" of reality that they can have a hard time escaping.

Because their Fi only references its own experiences when coming to moral conclusions, true perspective shifting can be baffling for them, and I often have the frustration of trying to explain to my ISFP partner why his monolithic moral perspective is blind to a whole host of external factors. Of course he is the most moral in his mind because his mind is his only point of reference! This would be like being the most moral person in a crowd of one. I'm rambling, but does that make sense?

 

Yes, self-centric is probably the better word; I'm not a narcissist, but I am admittedly self-centric. I mean, I'm an Fi-dom and an only child, haha.

Oh, yeah, I definitely don't read social cues. Not my strong suit. I used to try to, but now I don't, unless I am in a very serious situation. Self-created bubble of reality? Yeah.

 

I am very curious as to what prompted you to start this line of questioning. Are you second-guessing your moral superiority?

I wouldn't say it is "just" an Fi-thing, but I would say that this is "more" of a Fi-thing.

Of course he is the most moral in his mind because his mind is his only point of reference! This would be like being the most moral person in a crowd of one. I'm rambling, but does that make sense?

Totally does! I couldn't have said it better!

I've noticed Fi users are less prone to watch out for non-verbal cues and tend to look more in the distance when arguing a moral point.

 

I am very curious as to what prompted you to start this line of questioning. Are you second-guessing your moral superiority?

I wouldn't say it is "just" an Fi-thing, but I would say that this is "more" of a Fi-thing.

Ha. Well, kind of. I've been criticized for it before.

How would an Fe-dom or aux go about having a feeling of moral superiority?

 

I don't think there's a correlation. I've known immature Fi's that aren't necessarily narcissistic too. Personally--and this is just my opinion--but it might be more likely linked to a very immature person of an enneagram of the image triad, in image is closely linked with how a person views themselves or is viewed by others. Image enni's are pretty common with Fi types, particularly 4's, but sometimes 3's and 2's as well.

 

I see myself as being kind and well-meaning, and a good sense of right and wrong. I don't think that makes me better, just more nice. I think there are a lot of jerks in the world. They seem more full of themselves to me.

 

Read miltons subtypes of personality disorders. They often are extroverts, narcisst that is.

 

Personally, I am rather shy, which is the opposite of narcissism. I don't think enough of myself and don't stand up for myself as much as I should.

 

When I think narcissism, I'm more inclined to think of Te, actually.

 

I'm curious about what makes you say that. I don't initially disagree, but I'd really like to hear your rationale.

oh, yeah. i figure there are different 'flavors' of the golden rule, but i get what you're saying. sometimes you can't predict what someone else wants, but it's a good starting point if for some reason you haven't consulted them.

Absolutely, in meeting someone new, you want to have something to work with at first.

But really, to me, this isn't just a flavour, this is me belaboring the idea of common interactions, everyday morality as an interpersonal dance that we engage in, out there, between individuals. But I'm letting the matter drop, because I also know there are always a few occasions in life that demand this Fi, this inner independent Antigone-like sense of right and wrong, and that on these occasions, you have to stop listening to the demands made upon you by others and do what feels right.

Beyond introverted and extroverted feeling, I think, and tell me if I am wrong, that we can probably agree on this here, that the key to respecting someone is getting to know their life story.

 

I dont think its narcissism I think its more about being slightly out of touch with reality, more like a delusion. Isfp think they are moral people but their personality type doesnt describe the type of person most people would describe as "moral". They are more self righteous than anything.

Personality page explains it better than I can but basiclly isfp can be really selfish and struggle keeping healthy relationships. If thats the case, Im sorry but you are not as kind or great as you think.

 

My mother is infp and she's narcissistic as fuck

 

Hi. This was quite interesting. As an ISFP, I relate to this. But even more so as a 2w3, where image is of great concern to me. Let me paint you an example.

I do a good deed. People praise me; how kind I am, how rare it is for young people like me to care about such things. People say that I am the kindest person they know. I often do kind deeds so I must be kind.

It came to a point where I was quite blinded by the image I had painted of myself ("full of myself", as the OP pointed out). Yes, I am kind. But I am not ALWAYS kind. I am flawed. I can be selfish. I do not always want to do kind things. And it took me awhile to realise that and be okay with that. I also have learned to question my motives when doing something for others. Why am I doing it? For praise? For self-gratification? For it to be reciprocated sometime in the future (for the person to express elaborate thanks or to do me a huge favour next time)? It was a really hard look at myself and took some adjusting to. Hahaha.

 

Hi. This was quite interesting. As an ISFP, I relate to this. But even more so as a 2w3, where image is of great concern to me.

First off, woah! ISFP TYPE TWO?! Are you a unicorn?! My mind is drawing a blank trying to figure this out! How are you not torn apart from the sheer opposition of the pull of the self and that of the others?!

Yes, I am kind. But I am not ALWAYS kind. I am flawed. I can be selfish. I do not always want to do kind things.

Your choice of words struck a chord in me. I just want to lovingly reinforce that being in charge of your own sense of worth, being in charge of your own needs, being in charge of your own boundaries, being in charge of putting your oxygen mask before helping others is not being flawed. This natural healthy vigorous instinct might be hard for many of us to accept and manage gracefully, and yet it should have its seat at the table.