I compare it to being type 5 ISTP which seems to be more common. Well I have to compare it to something.

I think I'm more feely, dreamy and stubborn as well as having a temper and drive which I think is my 8w.

Way more phsyical active than the 5's I know but I don't know if that means anything.

 

Hard to say... nines are one of the most common types of infps... nines and fours. I'd say nine Infps are a lot more laid back and don't fit the "emo" infp stereotype as much. We are generally much more externally focused than fours. It is somewhat that our Fi is really noticeable in our tendency to ignore and avoid our emotions, whereas four Infps seem to really embody and identify heavily with their emotions. In that sense we are very much the opposite.

Personally though, with my 9-5-3 tri-type I am a bit less emotional and more cerebral, stable than a lot of Infps. For awhile I was seriously considering Intp, for instance. The title thing is pretty interesting actually. I definitely identify more with "Healer" than "Idealist", because I am more oriented externally and towards other people than towards my inner feelings and "ideals".

 

I am an 9 <- - - - (I think) -- INFP. The current INFP forum makes me want to put my head through a wall. Some variables I guess, is the HUGE age difference and the ton O' 4s there. I love peace, contentment, optimism, happy-happy, no conflict, privacy and no whining about my life. Not a fan at all of -- darkness, drawn to sad images and feelings, the thought that if you ain't suffering, you ain't doing it right.

 

I'm a 9w1 ENFP c:
I relate a lot to your opening post. I think my 9 makes me more relaxed and head-in-the-clouds than other enneagram-types of ENFP (I know 7 and 2 are common) and I feel a little more introverted too, maybe because of it...?
I know I'm still an extrovert because of how I respond with outward stimuli, but I don't necessarily need people to get stimulated. It could be anything, animals, trees, just being out and breathing in.

I'm happy that I'm a 9. I think it makes me more prone to depression to have my more reserved tendencies especially when self-criticism gets overwhelming with the 1 wing, but I don't think I would want to be anything else.

 

For the longest time I would consistently test as an INTJ, but I still had a healthy level of doubt and the same has been true of other, similar sections as well.

If anything, recognizing that I am a type 9 has meant that determining my MBTI type is far more difficult than it should be. Because we adapt so drastically to whatever environment we're in, this has meant that I have highly developed functions all around and can't really describe how I function. Even though this has been a hobby of mine for around a year, it just goes to show how complex people are.

I am in the process of figuring this out with a friend of mine, somebody who is actually a psych. major unlike me, a physics major.

 

I feel like it makes me want to tone done my Ne so as not to overwhelm or irritate people... It's also far more comfortable for me "live in" Fi, as it feels less intrusive.

I am happy to see other NFP 9's seem to share these experiences, though
In terms of the depression tendencies... not so happy.

 

Good question. I'm an INFP. I guess I'm more laid-back than our e4 friends.

Introverted Feeling strives for harmony. I believe harmony is something that is found between subjective values and the environment. 9 in general wants harmony and love. It's called the Peacemaker, after all.

I guess this can get a little out of hand. 9 copes by withdrawing from the world to maintain illusions of love and inner peace. I see Introverted Feeling as a selfish function. It lays down the values and says what you need to do for your well-being. If Extroverted Intuition goes Piglet-style paranoid on your idealized Fi castles in the sky the INFP crisis activates. World starts to seem like a really cold and dark place, forever unable to match the idealized version of reality.

The 9 withdraws, the introvert recharges. 9 tries to avoid inner turmoil and makes you numb, in order to maintain the illusion of love. Just like Fi gets hurt and retreats to wallow in it's own misery. The world seems like a happy place, as long as you stay in your bubble of busy work and chocolate.

Well, that's what I guess happens. I'd love to hear more thoughts on this.

A really interesting thread, by the way. I will monitor this for sure.

 

What's this about being prone to depression? Can someone please explain?

 

In comparison to non-9 ISFJ's, I believe I am:
- less anxious and skeptical.
- less hardworking.
- less traditionalist.
- less dependable.
- less afraid of conflict. *
- more relaxed and lazy.
- more agreeable.
- more optimistic.
- more forgiving.
- more go-with-the-flow.


* This is possible due to my 8 wing!


Basically, it's a contradiction in that I feel very lazy and procrastinate a lot, but when I do work on something, I have to be very organized and attentive to details, and I have to follow through. I have a big problem with starting things but little problem finishing. I don't have the self-motivation of most SJ's.


I honestly feel miles apart from my ISFJ grandma who is a self-preservation phobic 6. I don't even have 6 as my head type, which most ISFJ's do. Her anxiety drives me insane sometimes. I feel like most ISFJ's need to calm the fuck down, and that is how we differ. Haha

 

Personally, I identify much more with the label "Protector" than "Nurturer". Out of any of the names, I would pick "Protector" for me. My ISFJ grandma would *do* anything in the world for the people she cares about and take care of them physically... but when it comes to emotionally protecting us, never. She is so afraid of any conflict. She's not even emotionally supportive of me in any sense of the words. I'm too lazy and don't care so much about doing practical things for people, but I am incredibly protective of people emotionally. People I care about for the most part but I also feel responsible for standing up for anyone getting unnecessary shit. Emotionally protecting people isn't even something I necessarily want to do (as it could escalate things); it's something I feel compelled to do, more so than standing up for myself. I think this is the sexual 9w8 in me!

 

Personally, I identify much more with the label "Protector" than "Nurturer".

Same here, I'm a fucking doberman to my close ones.

People I care about for the most part but I also feel responsible for standing up for anyone getting unnecessary shit. Emotionally protecting people isn't even something I necessarily want to do (as it could escalate things); it's something I feel compelled to do, more so than standing up for myself. I think this is the sexual 9w8 in me!

Same here as well and I don't like it in hindsight.

 

I'm INFJ 9w1 too and i can totally relate to what you've said here, would love for you to expand your thoughts.

I especially agree with identifying more as "confidant" than "protector" in being there for others, think the protector in me only comes out in extreme situations if I feel the situation can be resolved without that level of involvement I'll try to make peace in another way.

Also one thing I never really got in the INFJ forums was the apparent perfectionism, I think the procrastination I see in the 9 discussions overrides this in me but still can result in a pretty hectic internal struggle for motivation.

 

Great question!

INFJ here.


I totally agree with GoodOldDreamer and LouisetheSane about being more of a "counselor" and "confidant" and less of a "protector".

To someone unfamiliar with cognitive functions, I appear more like a P than a J. I procrastinate, can be messy, lack a drive for perfection in anything unless I care about it deeply and am generally not outwardly "judging". If I take simplistic letter tests, I often get INFP, even though I'm definitely not. I use Ni-Fe-Ti-Se.

I seem to be less consciously aware of my Ni than INFJs generally seem to report. Ni is there and it dominates my consciousness, but it mostly operates under my radar; I tend to forget it's there. This is a major reason it took me long to figure out my dominant function.

More than anything else, I perceive Ni as a lack of definite intellectual borders. It fits my perception of self very well - mist.

I LOVE complexity and ambiguity. I assume the type 9 tendency to look for the general and view things from multiple perspectives and the Ni focus on principles and complexity contribute to this greatly.

I use my cognitive functions to satisfy my type 9 needs/goals. I seek peace and comfort in the eternal, fantastic, mystical and otherworldly.

Even though I - sometimes acutely - experience the stereotypical "alien" feeling most Ni doms report, I get along with most types well, sensors included. I think the N-S divide affects me less severely in interpersonal relationships than other enneagram type Ns. That said, I often have to "disappear" in order to get along. I usually unconsciously tone down my Ni-weirdness when I'm with others. I wasn't even aware of this for a long time; I was merely conscious of being drained.

 

I'd say that being a 9w1 brings a lot of conflict-awareness to me as an ENFP. My Ne is constantly anticipating points of conflict and exploring their nuances; my Fi keeps me centred on divorcing my ego from it all, reminding me that my real self-worth hinges on the effort and mindfulness that I put into contributing to my environment; my Te spends most of its time strategizing around contentious issues and logically troubleshooting problems with people; and my Si likes to remind me of how good/bad it felt to manage/succumb to conflicts in the past, keeping me from ever forgetting what worked/didn't work.

Because of that, it motivates and supports my extroversion as a whole, driving me to initiate a lot of conversations that probably wouldn't happen otherwise; however, it also really tempers my approach to life, keeping me from "pushing things" or "going overboard" when I don't see any good reason to (kind of like a fail-safe switch for my extroverted tendencies and journeys into enneagram 3-mode).

 

hi guys my bf is an estp i think, and i made him take the test for the enneagram, and he is a 9..are there a lot of estp 9s?

 

Are you sure he's not ISTP?

 

I think it makes me so scattered and that is why I still do not know my type.

Meh.

 

So, me and that friend that I mentioned in my earlier post decided what type I act the most like. INTP.

I've spent a lot of time researching since then and have looked more at the cognitive functions. As a result of that research I came to the conclusion that we all use these things, consciously even.
The difference lies in how exhausted we get trying to use these functions for most enneagram types, but because we are Type 9's we can adapt, and therefore pretend, to whatever trait we need to follow the most in a given situation.

Type 9's adapt so radically to their environment that they can trick themselves into thinking they are, as I did for quite a while an INTJ whereas, in reality, they are an INTP. For the most part I doubt that any Type 9 consciously decides to adapt, as in we don't go from a Ne-dom type to a Si-dom type mentally. Instead, what happens is that our environment wants us to behave in a certain manner and we naturally adapt to the desire of the environment.

I think that, like some heart-types, Type 9's need to become healthy in order to find out their personality type, in the unhealthy to average range the process will be very difficult to do. As for me, I'm still skeptical about my designation as an INTP, given the inconsistent way that I take in information and make judgements. That said, I think it's accurate enough for now, but if I was placed back into a stressful environment, I doubt I would identify with INTP as much as I do now.

TL;DR: The level of psychological health of a Type 9 determines if they can accurately determine their MBTI type.