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My Personal View on Generations as of 2020

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#1 ·
Gen Jones = 1959-1964 (could squeeze 1958 and 1965 borns, mixed in with Boomer and X traits)

Gen X = 1965-1976 (all have some Core X traits, could extend to early-mid 1977 borns as well)

Early X = 1965-1967 (some residual Gen Jones influence)
Early/Core X = 1968-1969 (very last to probably have Gen Jones influence, but is almost 100% Gen X)
Core X = 1970-1972 (core representatives of Gen X)
Core/Late X = 1973-1974 (very first to probably have Y influence, but is almost 100% Gen X)
Late X = 1975-1976 (some residual Y influence)

Gen X/Y (Xennial) Cusp = 1977-1982 (possibly extends to early-mid 1983 borns, could be X or Y if they please, X could end and Y start anywhere from 1977-1982, Gen X truly ends in 1976 and Y starts in 1983)
1977-1978 (more likely to be X)
1979-1980 (more likely to be both)
1981-1982 (more likely to be Y)

Gen Y = 1983-1994 (all have some Core Y traits, could extend to early-mid 1995 borns)

Early Y = 1983-1984 (some residual X influence)
Early/Core Y = 1985-1987 (very last to probably have X influence, but is almost 100% Gen Y)
Core Y = 1988-1990 (core representatives of Gen Y)
Core/Late Y = 1991-1992 (very first to probably have Z influence, but is almost 100% Gen Y)
Late Y = 1993-1994 (some residual Z influence)

Gen Y/Z (Zillennial) Cusp = 1995-2000 (could extend to early-mid 2001 borns, could be Y or Z if they please, Y could end and Z start anywhere from 1995-2000, Gen Y truly ends in 1994 and Z starts in 2001)
1995-1996 (more likely to be Y)
1997-1998 (more likely to be both)
1999-2000 (more likely to be Z)

Gen Z = 2001-2012 (all have some Core Z traits)
Early Z = 2001-2002 (some residual Y influence)
Early/Core Z = 2003-2004 (very last to probably have Y influence, but is almost 100% Gen Z)
Core Z = 2005-2008 (core representatives of Gen Z)
Core/Late Z = 2009-2010 (very first to probably have Alpha influence, but is almost 100% Gen Z)
Late Z = 2011-2012 (some residual Alpha influence)

Some Gen Jones traits:
Come of age in the Late 70's & Early 80's
Grew up in the 1970's
Born in the Early 60's (give or take a few years before & after)
Didn't have the true experience of a Boomer, but too old to experience true Gen X culture
Might've been into disco

Some Core Gen X traits:
Young adult/adolescence during the tail-end of the Cold War
Grew up in the later half of the 70's and 80's
Born in the early 70's (give or take a few years before & after)
Experience childhood in the 70's or earlier 80's
Was already an adult by the time Windows 95 released

Some Xennial traits:
Born in the Late 70's & Early 80's
Came of age in the tail-end of the 20th century, post-Windows 95, during a bulk of Clinton's presidency
Childhood in the 80's
Grew up in the 80's & mostly 90's
Was already an adult by 9/11
Last to understand the effects of the Cold War
Last to remember the Challenger explosion
Grew up solely in an analog, pre-digital world

Some Core Millennial traits:
Born in the Mid-Late 80's & Early 90's
Came of age in the very Early 21st century (2000's & Early 2010's)
Childhood in the 90's
Grew up in the 90's & 2000's
Was under 18 during 9/11, but could vividly remember and even understand the effects of it
Born before Windows 95, but not yet a teenager
Grew up mostly in a pre-digital world, with dial-up and slow internet

Some Zillennial traits:
Born in the Mid-Late 90's & even VERY Early 00's
Came of age in the Core & Late 10's
Childhood in the 2000's
Grew up in the 2000's & 2010's
Born post-Windows 95 but pre-9/11
Remembers a world with analog technology and stuff dial-up, slow internet, VHS, etc.
Remembers the Bush administration, Old enough to care about politics during Obama, but is able to vote for Trump

Some Core Gen Z traits:
Born in the very Early 21st century (2000's & Early 2010's)
Born after 9/11
Born after implementation of the Department of Homeland Security
Childhood in the 2010's
Born in the Mid-Late 00's (give or take a few years before & after)
No remembrance of a life before smartphones or social media
Doesn't remember a decent economy before Great Recession
First president to remember is Obama, instead of Bush or Trump

A non-cusper could possess some cusper traits and vice-versa, but it doesn't always make them a part of the cusp mainly because of either birth year or how significant the traits from a specific sub-group they have.
 
#2 ·
Very informative Thanks, I think we are getting smarter by each generation.
 
#4 ·
I sort of did. In the Zillennial chart, it says "could extend to early-mid 2001 borns". Generally, I would put 1995-2000. I think 2001 born generally are the first non-cusp Gen Z as most sources put them as Z. 2001, is transitional, though, because they would fit a lot of the Zillennial traits that I listed. But, one main reason I put them out of the cusp is because they were born in the 21st century. Even 2002 borns could fit the Zillennial cusp and can relate more to those traits than Core Z traits, too, however, that would sort of be stretching it because that is usually the first year when almost everybody agrees that they are Gen Z. By the way, having a Core Z trait doesn't automatically make one Core Z, but it usually automatically makes one off the cusp, while having a cusp trait could or could not automatically make one a cusper.
 
#5 ·
New year. Fuck i don't want to get old and die.

2020.

I don't give a fuck now everything is not essential and become more religious and thinking about having a real family and working around 14H/day.


I hate death. I hope i can punch this bitch on day.
 
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#8 · (Edited)
I think 1993-1998 is the Y/Z cusp. I don’t consider 1999 a cusp year anymore, let alone 2000 & 2001.

X/Y cusp = 1977-1983
Early Y = 1981-1985
Core Y = 1986-1991
Late Y = 1992-1996
Y/Z cusp = 1993-1998
Early Z = 1997-2001
Core Z = 2002-2006
Late Z = 2007-2010

1992 is a tricky one for me because it seems too early for the cusp but too late for core Y. I definitely think they have Z traits though.
 
#9 ·
Generation Jones looks more like a cohort than a generation.
Most people would say 1955/56 to 1965. Starting it with 1955 would make sense because that was the first year when no one was drafted to fight in Vietnam. Although draft numbers were assigned to people born in 1955 and 1956 and the lotteries were done, those numbers were never used. In my opinion, having classmates drafted and sent off to Vietnam was traumatic for people. And seeing them come home to a cemetery, instead of their families, must have been painful. I think that was the experience that was the dividing line between the older and the younger boomers.
Also, I would delete the name baby boomer because that's just based on population surges.
The Vietnam War draft affected everyone born between 1938 and 1954. I would call that the Vietnam Generation.
People actually went to fight in the Vietnam War from other countries, besides the United States.
 
#14 ·
Good job. I'm proud of your complexity and subtlety. I agree with your identifiers of Xennials. You seem to have actually studied the broader sociological and political implications rather than just the impacts of art or popular culture.

One thing that has been on my mind lately is the new Suspiria. This is no way to measure generations as a whole, but I wondered how Gen X, Xennials, and Gen Y responded to it respectively because it's an extremely complex revision on the film that differs greatly from the 1977 Argento film, it doesn't even try to be Suspiria 77. You would almost have to be obsessed with Dario Argento to immediately dismiss it.

It seems like ironically it would appeal most to Gen X because of its overt Cold War themes but offend them the most, because they may have actually seen Suspiria first run as children or adolescents (where as I didn't see it until the 2000s, about 25 years after it was made). As someone born in the Xennial window I was young enough to not take offense to the re-make but old enough to appreciate how heavily Cold War it was.

There's a new re-boot in art house horror in the past five years though that Gen Y/Millennials can surely take credit for as directors, but Gen Z is surely avidly consuming as young people. It's interesting because Millennials had a Horror Revival of slasher flicks in the 2000s, then in the 2010s this new art house thing took over: The Witch, Hereditary, Mother!, The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Midsommar, The Lighthouse, and the Suspiria remake. I'm honestly not sure about it though because some of them feel too drama and not enough horror, they're very extremely pretentious as horror films, especially when one goes weirdly South at the end like Hereditary.

Horror is always supposed to be the reflection of a generation. Art house horror is a very late 60s/70s European thing, and we haven't had a ton of it as an entire movement until about 2015-Present. I wonder if this is due to the seriousness of climate change, or because Millennials are too jaded to actually be afraid. Because these movies aren't scary. They're disturbing in a way that gets under your skin and doesn't leave you afterward, at best. I do think Suspiria is probably the scariest of the lot, though.
 
#16 ·
When it comes to generations, it makes sense that with Mid 90s babies, they are predominantly Millennial and with Early 00s babies, they are predominantly Zoomer, by the traits they have, the way they grew up, and the way they act. Definite Millennials born in the Mid-Late 80s and Early 90s are obviously different from definite Gen Zers born in the mid-late 00s. But those born from the Mid-Late 90s and Early 00s are not completely one generation and can relate to both cohorts in some ways with varying degrees of both gens.

For good reason, clear-cut Millennials would be 90s kids (1983-1992), although 1983 & 1984 babies are very Early Y, having some X or Xennial traits, like spending a good chunk of childhood in the 1980s, growing up entirely in the 1990s, experiencing almost all coming-of-age moments (16-25 years old) in the 2000s, having most of their youth pre-9/11 and having basically all of their college years before social media blew up. It doesn’t truly get Millennial until 85’ borns, whose youthful peaks were in the 2001-2002 school year, right after 9/11, started elementary in the 90s, had all their teen years in Millennial-driven culture and while they were the last to enter high school during the 90s, it was post-Columbine. But 1985-1987 borns are in-between early and core Y, with a very slight influence from Gen X, as they are the very last to have any memory of the 80s and the Cold War, entered high school pre-9/11, and spent all high school years before MySpace took over in late 2005.
The high schoolers of the mid 00s who first experienced the social media world before adulthood and grew up in the 90s and 2000s (1988-1990 babies) are the absolute core Millennials. While 91ers are definitely Y and are one of the last true Millennials, along with 92’ babies, they are probably the first that are not complete stereotypical Gen Yers, and are like a cusp of core and late Y, because they were mostly late 2000s teens, when social media was rising with MySpace (a core millennial site) and Facebook (a late millennial site), could not vote for Obama in 2008, when core Y were able to vote, but however were the last to actually be in the workforce during the peak of the recession and be affected by it, making them the last of the true Yers. 1993 and 1994 babies are sort of more very Late Y with minor Z or Zillennial traits, because they were the first to have most of their childhood fall within the 2000s decade (which was a very transformative decade, technologically, economically, generational-y, etc.), not have been able to work during the peak of the recession, and had a significant amount of their teen years in the 2010s. The Zillennial cusp would really span from 1995-2000 and are probably the last branch of Y, due to the fact their childhoods transitioning from Web 1.0 to Web 2.0, they were born in the Clinton administration, could remember the early 00s, had most of their core-childhoods post-9/11 but pre-Recession, and they were born in the 20th century. 2001ers are sort of cuspy, but they were born in the 21st century, had most of their core childhood after the Great Recession in late 2007, youth period peaked after Trump was inaugurated as president, started kindergarten when kid culture started to clearly lean Z, and they don’t have early 00s memories.

So, to end this long speech off, The YZ transition ends with 2001 & 2002 born’s who are very Early Z for the reason that they will be able to vote for Trump in the 2020 election this year, the last to have most of their childhoods in the 2000s, even though basically all Y remnants in kid culture officially died when their childhoods peaked, they spent high school when Obama was still our president, which was when liberal SJW culture was still very popular, at least have concrete memories of the mid 00s, and while some were born after 9/11, they were all born prior to the establishment of the Homeland Security, going into the Iraq War, truly ushering in the post-9/11 mood and atmosphere, which is why I think Z truly begins in 2003 for those reasons. 2003 and 2004 babies share a lot of similarities in growing up experiences to other early 00s and even late 90s babies, so I consider them cusps of early and core Z and would have a bit of a Y influence, but can never be millennials. However you take all of this, I know this was pretty subjective in a lot of ways but not completely non-credible as it does have some objectivity here. I’m done here.
 
#17 ·
Core Z = 2005-2008 (core representatives of Gen Z)
05-08 borns are solely 2010s kids, and basically have zero in common with someone such as myself, a core 2000s kid that was a teen / young adult throughout the 2010s. There's no good reason for me to be even loosely associated with them, aside from people needing generations to run at least 10 years.

And most media don't even acknowledge the existence of cusps when discussing generations, so it just makes the whole situation even more ridiculous.
 
#19 ·
That is a good point because my great niece is also a Generation Z, and she is currently eight years old. So I don't really see that you have all that much in common with her, either.