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#1 ·
Literally just started this show last night, so I am by no means an expert on the characters, but Shusei Kagari strikes me as ESFP. Others?
 
#2 · (Edited)
As the characters are so good developed, MBTI and enneagram guesses are weird but plausible.

My guesses:


Principal characters:

Akane - ISFJ 1w2 - Corrected: 6w5; I have Si-gripped INFP as second guess. INFJ is a common mistype, but, in fact, she's an stable by-the-book character, not as strong as Ginoza, but still. It is a matter to consider that she's using a strong ammout of Si. I think an INFJ would've killed Makishima in their first encounter in order to achieve a greater good, but she couldn't as long as it wouldn't follow what she was believing and would've made her going against her method. She's a character who looks for stability while she understands humanity. That's why she didn't destroy Sybil at the end.

Kogami - ISTJ 8w9; ISTP is a common mistype. He's a character with a strong sense of justice and morality, Si is so prominent it hurts, that's why he excels as a detective, not only about finding details but rarely commiting errors. ISTPs focus on their work towards them, but Kogami needed to finish what was already started, he couldn't leave it. The fact that he's an 8 makes him be more risk-taker but even for an 8, he's less impulsive than usual.

Ginoza - ISTJ 1w9; Textbook.

Masaoka - ESFP 9w8; Calm, good willed and purposed. He may be seem as an introvert, but 9 extroverts are like him.

Kagari - ESxP 7w8; Neither Ti or Fi seem decently clear, however, he seems more natural and expressive with his feelings, which is a common ESFP facet.

Yayoi - IxFP 6w5; Yayoi is an idealistic character but not so diplomatic one.

Makishima - ENxP 5w4; Empathy free and manipulative where still the most charismatic character in the serie. Certainly, most of the guesses for me are ENTP, however, I've seen good arguments for both ENTP and ENFP types.

Guseong - INTP 5w6


Secondary characters:

Saiga sensei - INFJ 5w4
Shion - I think I'm having a wrong guess, but ESTP and 2w1 seems the most plausible combination for me. Despite being a hacker and a logical person, she's the pure image of a 2. If ESTP is not correct, then ESFP should be.
 
#4 ·
I'm catching up with this amazing anime, I finished season 2 so I guess I can give a try with some typing (some spoilers ahead if you didn't watch season 2!)

Akane: Isfj
I'm pretty much sure about her being a sensor (she had an interest in dresses, her house was cute, she acquired some of Kogami antics like smoking etc.).
I wondered for sometime if she uses Fe or Te. She's pretty logical and matter of fact and I'd really like the idea of an Xstj who doesn't behave like a heartless boss who insults and fires you (?), but I think that her "logic" and her vision of society is that of a feeler. She's ready to step on her own values and her own needs (so I don't see any Fi here) to protect society. She also shows empathy toward the enforces and criminals in general, she's very good at seeing any side of a situation. A Te would probably go along with the Sybil System, a Fe would probably feel torn like Akane, because she sees how useful it is but also the inhumanity behind it.

Kogami: Istp
He's pretty logic and individualistic, he's not afraid to go against the system if he thinks it is necessary. I don't see him as an intuitive, moreover he's someone who likes approach problems firsthand rather than sit down and think about it.

Ginoza: Istj
I guess he's the typical stubborn Istj you see in animes, who grows up when he accepts his weaknesses.

Masaoka: Esxp
Completely different from his son, but I don't know if he's Ti or Fi.

Kagari: Estp
I didn't see any particular F in him.

Yayoi: Isxp
I'd lean toward Isfp, but it's hard to guess.

Shion: Estp
Just a vibe actually, I think Se is pretty obvious and I'd say she's more Ti than Fi.

Mika: Estj
Ginoza had some charm and some respect for his collegues she doesn't have (probably Gino's tert-Fi vs Mika's inf-Fi?). She just goes straight with whatever comes to her mind, without questioning if what she's doing is right or not. She doesn't have her own set of values, she just follows Sybil and blindly believes that it is right and as soon as she has doubts she shut them down. She hardly showed any doubts even after finding out the truth. But I believe she's simply very immature and she needs to learn a lot and grow up as a person.

Hinakawa: Inxp
I didn't see that much of him to understand him, but I'd say Infp mostly.

Makishima: Infj
Ah here comes one of my favourite villain ever. I had to think deeply about this, because while watching the first season I thought he could be an Infj for several reasons: his interest in humanity and free will, his ability to manipulate and influence people by pushing the right button, his interest in literature.
But the particular thing about him is that he doesn't seem to have a plan to improve or substitute sybil, nor he wants to save humanity, he simply enjoys causing troubles. He was basically (like Kogami more or less said) a lonely artist who wanted to see how far he could go.
After watching season 2 and its villain, I started having doubts and I tried to consider Entp. But I’m not really sure because in my mind Entp are much more chaotic than him, while he looks like an introvert.
My guess is that he’s an unhealthy-Fe, who wants so badly to be part of society but he can’t so he got upset and decided to mess around a bit.

Kamui: Esfj
Like Makishima (if not more than him), he is very good at manipulating people and unlike Makishima it seems he had a more practical goal.
If we compare his final scene with Makishima's I guess you can really understand what are the differences of these two characters.
 
#5 · (Edited)
makishima is my favourite villian all time. i didn't think about the other character's types and it's been long time after i watched the series. but i do believe that makishima was 4w5, the main reason is, his perpective borns something very personal in him, even though he seem very emotionless, his action's based on ''uniqueness''. he can't stand robotic, looking completely same people, we wants to see people's darkest side, their edges, which is very 4ish. and one of my favourite quetos: ''i want to see the splendor of people's souls.'' could explain how he percieves the world. he would choose everyone to be dead rather then living with no identity, he almost thinks those kind of people deserves to be dead. i would be like makishima if i was a villian probably, i resonate with many of his thoughts and understand his perspective. a good example of villian fours, that we can be really harsh and not sweet all the time. i'm sick of classic 4 anime representations, who is cute, emotonial and exc., makishima is a very good example for the dark side of 4w5 i guess.

''Like God, you mean? That might be pleasurable in its own way, but unfortunately I'm not into being an umpire or a referee, as I can't genuinely enjoy the game unless I'm part of it. And I love this game that people call "life" from the bottom of my heart. That's why I'd like to continue to participate in it as a player, forever and ever.''

''Suppose someone said "humans are foolish"... Obviously, that person would be talking about themselves as well. If you want to understand human beings, you need to do more than just watch them. You need to pay attention to what they themselves are watching. What are you watching? You are the ones who I'm watching. It may be hard to believe, but I like you guys. You know what they say... The opposite of love is not hatred, but indifference. An indifferent person would lack the drive to kill or hurt. My mind keeps jumping around. Am I nervous...? Did I underestimate my enemy so much that I stepped in too deep...? ...What a silly thought.''

''Overall, I think people tend to reveal their true selves when they step into an avatar. As I said earlier, they probably feel some sense of freedom. But freedom easily gained quickly turns into a false sense of omnipotence.''

“The opposite of boredom is not pleasure… but excitement. People will gladly seek out any kind of excitement, even pain.” – Shogo Makishima

“In order to measure a person’s worth, you must do more than push them. The real way to test their worth is to give them power. When they gain the freedom to act outside the boundaries of law and ethics, you can sometimes see their souls.” – Shogo Makishima

“When a man faces fear, his soul is tested. What he was born to seek… what he was born to achieve… his true nature will become clear.” – Shogo Makishima

“An unforeseen situation… An unexpected turn of events… In the face of those, you too will face your true self.”

“I think the only time people really have value is when they act according to their own will.” – Shogo Makishima

lol i'm probably going to change my signature now, i remembered how much i was in love with this guy again.. *feels*
 
#6 ·
I totally agree, he's amazing and he's definitely one of my favourite villains. I really liked the way he spoke, I liked his culture, he was absolutely fascinating. I completely loved his view of the world. I don't have the guts to be a villain, but I can totally see myself joining his side and supporting him.
That being said, I agree on the enneagram, indeed he cares a lot for the individuality of people and he wanted to free it even if it meant reveailing the bad sides of humanity. At the end of the day, I think he mostly wanted to assert himself and see how far *he* could go in shaking the society he hated. In particular in the quote about "who are you watching?..." I personally see how he is interested in humanity, how he himself knows he's part of humanity and how he is watching himself too. For most part of the series he used other people for his plans, but at the end, when he found someone who picked his interest, he decided to act personally and he became the main topic of his observation.
It's the same problem with feelers too, usually in anime they are simply cute characters but I think they make amazing villains.
What do you think about his mbti? It's the first time I feel it's easier to understand enneagram rather than mbti.
 
#7 ·
i am not really sure about his MBTI, it's obvious that he is xNxJ, i think he is a N because he focuses future, he is more kind of a observer, he tries to look at the big picture rather than practical solutions. i am not sure if he is extroverted or introverted but i would go with I probably, i feel like he is an INFJ like as you thought, i didn't thought about P ones because percievers wouldn't do such complicated plans and works hard on to achieve it and i mean Ps can be idealistic in their own way but wouldn't be so clear as Js? i would choose his side like as you said, but after some point i would change my mind about many things and probably start to do different things. INFJs has ability to change the world with their extroverted feeling and thinking, he is good example for the villian INFJs, as i read from somewhere Hitler was an INFJ too? so i would go with INFJ.
 
#8 ·
Yeah, P doesn't really sound good to me, they're messier and he was pretty uptight. I mean, I can kinda understand how someone could see Ne in him, but nope, at the end of the day a Ne dom or aux behaves differently.
If he were an Intj he would've probably had a more logic plan to implement society, instead he was simply interested in people's soul so I don't think he uses Te. Indeed Infj sounds more appropriate.
Yep, Hitler is typed as Infj. I personally think that Fe make the scariest villains, manipulating people emotionally is the best way to achieve a goal and no one does it better than Fe.
 
#9 ·
yeah, i agree about that and it's a very interesting subject also i think. a feeler vilian has tendency to act more on his emotions and his own hate rather then considering all the options like as a thinker, this person will be more intense and probably his intensity will charm more people around him. because it touches very simple impulse in people, a feeling! and a feeling based belief is more stronger than a thinking based belief, so people able to do things that they are not normally capable of. like as hitler did. he radiate his hate to the millions.. but gandhi was an infj too, if this power can use for good aims, it brings the world something good also. but both things are a way of manipulation either good or bad which makes me question, like makishima, what if every individual has power to change things without someone else's thoughts to hold on, how many of them would act for good manners? what is our natural instict, to be good or to be bad? or is it always changes from where we are looking at? an average person could become evil with power, if you made them poor, they can fight for good, for their own liberty, but if you gave them power, they would try to protect their own wills again but which will seem bad for general society? i'm just questioning, aren't the both sides are the same afterwards, it's about where we are looking from and that's the thing which scares me the most, the ''banality of evil''.. in hitler condition, we saw a very good example of it. so i can't stop thinking that ignorant good is as wicked as ignorant bad, if it makes sense? that makes %75 of people really really dangerous.. ugh, sorry i don't really know how did i get this point.. i'm just murmuring by my own now lol.

but i can understand Makishima's cruelty because of these and also Nietzsche's thoughts(hitler understand him way wrong yet he was still high writing those probably), but the problem is, both of them failed to their own feelings and own ego. killing is never a solution, it makes you part of them, the ones you get angry, the ones you hate, cause you using your power to destroy their own will forever, he makes himself some kind of adjudicator to become part of this world. but who is he to judge, he contradicts with himself.. but he internally knows that too, that he is just the same, like as everyone, but he accepts his role and enjoy this thing people called ''life''. it always suprises me seeing this little line between good and bad, and maybe there isn't at all? ugh.. my streaming conscious can't stop writing but i have to stop now...
 
#10 ·
Yeah, at the end of the day it is simply manipulation, even if the goal is a good one. I think that Makishima in a way was way too idealistic because he wanted everyone to be like him, that is to say free, brave, educated, someone who's not afraid to stand by their ideals... but most people are not like this. Most people don't care about freedom or values, they just live day by day so that means that their values will be decided by someone else. This is not a bad thing in itself if they are able to decide who they should follow, but it is potentially very dangerous if they just let themselves be dragged.
If we were all like Makishima we would've already killed each other probably, every Makishima would probably think they're freer than the other and nothing would change XD The thing is that ideals and humanity are two contradictory concepts, humans can never fully achieve an ideal beacuse no human is perfect. This is why every villain who wants to change humanity eventually fails (and this goes also for heros, in real life at least).

Yeah, at the end of the day Makishima was a walking contradiction, he wanted every soul to be free like him, so in a way equal to him, but he also judges and manipulate other people and I believe he also thinks he's superior do other human beings. He talks very well but his actions are meh.
 
#12 ·
Makishima is ENTP 7w8. The idea of him being anything with a J in it is absolutely hilarious considering how he actually prefers to live his life step-by-step with his only long-term objectives being abstract and not on any specific sort of time schedule. And I also don't get the idea where if you think about anything you are automatically a 5 or 4 type. Basically the overarching theme behind his character is the idea that value exists in free will. He even says he wants to see the "splendor in people's souls". Even in his murders that is his goal, to see, to experience (a very common 7 theme) what can be possible, in a world of surprisingly limited possibilities. He sees the value in the divergent pathways of uncontrolled life.

His vision is chaos in a world of order. Clearly not some J type, perhaps even as clear as that he's not some S type.
 
#13 ·
It's not like any thinker is 5 or 4, it's just that his character values individuality and freedom. His quote about the splendor in people's soul sounds more like a 4 than any other type out there. 7 is more about experience, not reflecting about how you hate conformity and people who blindly follow the system. He may as well be a 4w3, but for me the core of his personality is 4.
About his mbti I'm not sure either, but Entp doesn't sound right (to me obv). It's true he doesn't have a complex plan, but his focus on people is much more similar to that of a feeler, plus I don't think he's an extrovert.
I could see an Entp more interested in how sybil works, I could see an Entp playing games with the system but he doesn't. He doesn't care about it at all, he only cares about human's soul and sybil is important simply because it dehumanize people not because of the system itself.
He may be too disorganized to be a J but he's too organized to be an Entp.