Yeah, I know things well before I can actually articulate them. Ne figures it out and the other functions sorta categorize and justify things into something I can use to communicate.

 

Similar to how an INFP friend of mine says he feels. He spent a long time thinking he might be ISFP instead, but Ne just seems to fit him better because he makes some beautiful connections at times. I'm actually fairly sure, having at last been able to identify a few real-world INxP types that Ne-auxiliary is often greatly exaggerated here, some of the anecdotes people give are either more Ne-dom indicative or just blown out of proportion.

Ne IS quiet in INxPs, it has to pass through the mesh of Fi or Ti first. If it's a subconscious function already (as Jung writes) then it stands to reason that it won't be easily visible in these types. Perhaps you find you only get these 'typical' Ne moments occasionally when you are focused on something important to you? That seems to be the way INxPs I know function.

 

Yeah I've actually considered for a second the fact that I could be an ISFP, but I figure there's no way that's possible considering the fact that I've scored as a fairly strong N on all the MBTI tests (75% or more) I have taken. I am also certainly not an in-the-moment type of person as an Se user would be. My Ne is very active, but yes I do think it's more a matter of me not communicating my ideas and the connections I make all that often to the public. Because Ne is more idea oriented as opposed to the action/in-the-moment oriented Se it can seem more removed, especially if the Ne user does not intend to reveal these ideas or adjust their outward behavior accordingly.

 

This is primarily why I believe myself to be Ji dominant. I have a much quieter Ne then what I understand most Ne dominants have.

 

What the heck is Ji?

 

I feel like my Ne is becoming quieter with age. I wonder if this is normal? It used to scream at people when I was younger. =P

 

The More You Know *shooting star*

 

In the same line of thoughts, I tend to think of Ne Dom as zany and Ne Aux as quirky.

 

That's a great way to put it, I think.

I think just the fact that it is linked and pulled from the subconscious makes it seem nonexistent from time to time... That in itself is an idea I am unsure where it stems from... I'll think about this some more to clarify it.

 

This would explain why I had so much trouble typing my INFP friend. His Ne is nowhere near as loud and crazy as mine and manifests itself when he is writing or already really excited. It's like his Ne comes out when he is excited, but my Ne makes me excited.

 

Ne is indeed quiet in INPs. It is because our dominant functions are introverted. The extroverted aspect of Ne is simply the fact that our intuition looks outward for its patterns, if you like. When we grasp something, we pull it back in to allow for greater introspective analysis.

INPs simply do not feel the need to verbalise the results, unlikes Ne-doms, who simply can't help themselves.

 

INPs simply do not feel the need to verbalise the results, unlikes Ne-doms, who simply can't help themselves.

I would disagree with that - for me, at least. Verbalizing thoughts stimulates me - it stimulates my Ne and therefore helps me think better. It's like when I talk to someone, I can get more external data and that helps me make decisions with Fi. So usually I talk to someone, think out loud, and then go away and process all the data and make my decisions. Externalizing thoughts has nothing to do with how I necessarily make my decisions in the end.

Because I talk a lot, my Ne is readily apparent - especially if I'm around people I'm comfortable with. It isn't quiet. In fact, I would say that I find Ne more obvious in INTPs and INFPs - with ENFPs it's an all pervasive hum, whereas with INFPs and INTPs it's like a switch has been flipped and everything suddenly becomes insane.

 

Here's how it works.

Ne is a perceiving function, so you don't make decisions with it. It just feeds you data - a certain kind of data. What Ne does, basically, is pattern recognition. You see a cloud of dots and you are asked what the dots represent, and quickly see a face and say, "A face." And indeed, it was a face. You see a bunch of broken lines and say, "A bike." And that is indeed the correct answer (for the purposes of this example, let's just assume the tests have right and wrong answers, and you keep getting them right).

Ne 'fills in the gaps' with quick understanding. But it doesn't tell you what to do with what it gives you. If you're a quiet person, that's because you are using your judging functions to make a decision to be quiet. I'd look into your judging functions to figure out why you are so quiet, because it does not come from Ne.

Ne isn't loud or quiet, but someone with Ne dominant is more stimulated by discovery and innovation than anything else, so naturally they will use their judging functions to support the purpose of their dominant function. Whatever it is that their dominant function does best, all the other functions act as tools for, augmenting and enhancing it.

Your motivations, however, as in - what you feel or think you ought to do with the data given to you by Ne, comes from your feelings and thoughts, your judging functions. Someone with an extraverted dominant function can be immensely shy, never go out to parties, and test as an introvert on personality tests every time. They might never know they were an extravert, not unless they felt or thought they ought to be extraverted. Of course, someone with a dominant extraverted function is far more likely to be outgoing, because to do so would be more supportive of their extraverted dominant function, but not necessarily so in every case.

I, for example, come across to most people as an introvert because I spend so much time at my house on my computer. But if you step into that world, you quickly find that I spend all my time on my computer socializing, and interacting with people or events, playing multi-player games, doing things that involve more than just myself. It took me a while to figure out that I was extraverted, also because I was raised by my grandmother, who is an ISFJ, and so my primary function is her inferior one, and as an introvert she was always trying to shelter me from the world, and that made it difficult for me to adapt to social norms and behaviors, so naturally I gravitate towards situations where I can express myself without fear of reprocussions - but that doesn't make me an introvert, because I'm still primarily looking for ways to express myself - to express my Ne visions and insights.

 

@Abraxas. I think you definitely have a point. When I say I have a Quiet Ne I'm making the distinction between using Ne in activities that still engage in the external world but don't involve people such as reading, writing, puzzles, creating music, etc... and those that do involve other people. When I'm around others, especially those who I'm not as comfortable with the whole notion of "seeming Ne" appears to take a backseat. Of course it is still active in these situations...My mind is still jumping from idea to idea in search of a larger pattern as I hear other people's input, but I won't necessarily extravert my own thoughts...I do think this is largely due to me hiding behind my Fi and what it's willing to and not willing to do.

 

@Abraxas I think that this is the best description I've read about how Ne manifests itself depending on its cognitive arrangement. It applies to me because I originally assumed that because I don't care to engage myself in many social engagements, that I was INTP. I noticed whilst lurking the INTP subforum, that while we shared many similarities, I am in constant need of new information and will go out of my way to find it. I've also noticed that when I am trying to communicate my ideas either through speech or writing, if I lack sufficient time to process all the information I have available to me, my logic will get lost in the chaotic spread of disconnected thoughts.

I may be wrong but a true Ti dom sees more likely to have a cohesive argument when they choose to present it due to only using Ne to fuel conceptual understanding to a point of competency.

But all in all, great summary abraxas.