Jesus is always called INFJ, but from my reading of the Bible he seems more INFP. Jesus seems to be constantly guided by his inner values.
What do you think?
What do you think?
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Was Jesus Christ INFJ or INFP?
I don't know a lot about the life of Jesus.
I apologize in advance.
But my "feeling" is -- there is no way on God's green earth that Jesus was a P. Put me with the INFJ camp, or if I knew a bit more about him, maybe INTJ. Like balanced F and T. Like right on the line of T and F. Just going by feelings here, nothing scientific.
I probably should not have even said INTJ cuz -- well -- just cuz. I'm feeling the I, the N, the F/T and no way a P.
Last few lines in Isabel Briggs Myers book on INFJs:
"...The visions of the INFJs tend to concern human welfare, and their contributions are likely to be made independent of a mass movement. Occasionally, the individual contribution starts a mass movement or a religion or a crusade."
I apologize in advance.
But my "feeling" is -- there is no way on God's green earth that Jesus was a P. Put me with the INFJ camp, or if I knew a bit more about him, maybe INTJ. Like balanced F and T. Like right on the line of T and F. Just going by feelings here, nothing scientific.
I probably should not have even said INTJ cuz -- well -- just cuz. I'm feeling the I, the N, the F/T and no way a P.Last few lines in Isabel Briggs Myers book on INFJs:
"...The visions of the INFJs tend to concern human welfare, and their contributions are likely to be made independent of a mass movement. Occasionally, the individual contribution starts a mass movement or a religion or a crusade."
JC was never a real person, just an amalgamation of various prophets and tales from various religions.
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Jesus Christ was a real individual, even the most harcore atheist speakers will have no problem admitting he existed due to the overwhelming evidence in that direction.
Where the various religions differ (primarily Judaism, Christianity and Islam), is the role Jesus played in the grander scale of things. But all of them fundamentally agreed that Jesus existed.
In Judaism, Jesus is primarily seen as a fraud, and Judaism subscribes strictly to the Old Testament teachings, and ignores the New Testament. Jesus died on the crucifix and never was revived.
In Christianity, Jesus is the main reason why people were redeemed in the eyes of God. The whole religion of Christianity refers to the redemption of humanity through the crucifixion of Christ, giving everyone a chance.
In Islam, Jesus was seen as an ordinary prophet. The main difference here is that he never died from his crucifixion as he was rescued by Allah. While Jesus is known as a respected prophet, Muhammad is known as the most respected prophet.
As you can see here, the 3 biggest religions in the world all believe that Jesus existed. But differ on his actions and destiny.
Back to the topic of this post, I would argue that Jesus was an INFJ, not an INFP. The main difference here is the utilization of "Fe" over "Fi". Fe is primarily focused around external ethics, while Fi is focused on inner morals that come from within.
The morals Jesus taught others did not come from him, but from the Old Testament. If Jesus was an INFP, his morals would come from his own experiences, rather than teachings professed hundreds to thousands of years ago.
Also, while Jesus was scared about the cruelty and pain of his upcoming death, he went on with it anyway to prove he is the embodiment of Christ.
I'm not stating an INFP can't sacrifice themselves for the sake of principles, but I find it more plausible for an INFJ to do so. Since I believe Jesus was an INFJ, I think his dominant Ni allowed him to push through the fear and the pain. His introverted intuition and introverted thinking came to the conclusion that the only way to convince everyone is if he died on the cross, then come back from the dead. But his auxillary Fe did all of this because of his external code of ethics.
Where the various religions differ (primarily Judaism, Christianity and Islam), is the role Jesus played in the grander scale of things. But all of them fundamentally agreed that Jesus existed.
In Judaism, Jesus is primarily seen as a fraud, and Judaism subscribes strictly to the Old Testament teachings, and ignores the New Testament. Jesus died on the crucifix and never was revived.
In Christianity, Jesus is the main reason why people were redeemed in the eyes of God. The whole religion of Christianity refers to the redemption of humanity through the crucifixion of Christ, giving everyone a chance.
In Islam, Jesus was seen as an ordinary prophet. The main difference here is that he never died from his crucifixion as he was rescued by Allah. While Jesus is known as a respected prophet, Muhammad is known as the most respected prophet.
As you can see here, the 3 biggest religions in the world all believe that Jesus existed. But differ on his actions and destiny.
Back to the topic of this post, I would argue that Jesus was an INFJ, not an INFP. The main difference here is the utilization of "Fe" over "Fi". Fe is primarily focused around external ethics, while Fi is focused on inner morals that come from within.
The morals Jesus taught others did not come from him, but from the Old Testament. If Jesus was an INFP, his morals would come from his own experiences, rather than teachings professed hundreds to thousands of years ago.
Also, while Jesus was scared about the cruelty and pain of his upcoming death, he went on with it anyway to prove he is the embodiment of Christ.
I'm not stating an INFP can't sacrifice themselves for the sake of principles, but I find it more plausible for an INFJ to do so. Since I believe Jesus was an INFJ, I think his dominant Ni allowed him to push through the fear and the pain. His introverted intuition and introverted thinking came to the conclusion that the only way to convince everyone is if he died on the cross, then come back from the dead. But his auxillary Fe did all of this because of his external code of ethics.
INFJ. Wanting to start a social movement that actively involves other people is a very Fe thing in my mind.
For an INFP moral philosopher of the time, look to Epicurus. I believe he was one.
For an INFP moral philosopher of the time, look to Epicurus. I believe he was one.
are you guys seriously trying to type GOD / Son of GOD?
seriously?
it's not like He is another movie character you're talking about. it's out of any frame or typology in our small minds.
lol...
seriously?
it's not like He is another movie character you're talking about. it's out of any frame or typology in our small minds.
lol...
Who says?
Wasn't the whole point of Jesus (in the Bible) is that he takes on the traits of man (alongside all of their flaws), and yet, fufills the commandments sent down by God to the best degree possible? It proves to ordinary people that fufillment through Christ is possible. The only way to prove that to ordinary people, was to have Jesus take on the sins of humanity (in his body, mind, and mortality), and yet, have the strength through God to fufill the texts.
The Old Testament was all about providing the foundation of Christianity through strict rules and harsh punishment (most civilizations were similar in that time period, or much worse), while the New Testament still provided the same moral philosophy, it was made much more applicable through ordinary people and more flexible as a result. The major reason for that was Jesus, who is by all intensive purposes, a man, who again, fufills the testaments to the best degree possible while having every obstacle and trial a normal man faces.
If Jesus was a man, is it possible to try and at least hypothesize what his personality was like, or at least debate about it?
Then again, I'm no religious scholar, so I could be completely wrong.
And besides, there are some people here who don't believe that Jesus was the Son of God at all, yet fully believe that he did indeed exist. What about them?
To my human mind I see characteristics of various personality types on the surface, especially NF but in the big picture I don't think any of the types apply to Jesus. I believe that Jesus is beyond personality types because He is God in human form. Both man & God. I mean, we're mortals who process information through brains which were created by God who is the alpha & omega of time itself so our human-based MBPTI can only describe how we perceive Jesus as humans. Here's a (crude) analogy: My dog looks at me & wonders if I'm part cat or part dog because that's his world. It's how he's wired.
I'd look at this in alternate way. There are most likely 2 options, right?
Option 1: Jesus was a real person. He then definitely had supernatural abilities as he was able to come back from death - which most likely no "ordinary" person has done so far as we know. I believe if one had such abilities, they'd most likely be able to freely decide by themselves which combination of functions is the best to serve their personality and also community's. They won't be limited by MBTI or any other theory
Option 2: He was a fictional person. In this case it's even easier - for fictional characters it's quite clear that they can freely have whatever personality/functions or mix of them
So what if he was just able to choose which particular tool/skill (personality/function) was the best solution for a particular challenge.
Option 1: Jesus was a real person. He then definitely had supernatural abilities as he was able to come back from death - which most likely no "ordinary" person has done so far as we know. I believe if one had such abilities, they'd most likely be able to freely decide by themselves which combination of functions is the best to serve their personality and also community's. They won't be limited by MBTI or any other theory
Option 2: He was a fictional person. In this case it's even easier - for fictional characters it's quite clear that they can freely have whatever personality/functions or mix of them
So what if he was just able to choose which particular tool/skill (personality/function) was the best solution for a particular challenge.
My thoughts on why Jesus is more often typed as an INFJ or INFP:
He seems to have given more of an impression that he was more continuously inclined somehow to possibly see some innate positive quality in the people around him and human beings as whole where as instead it's this unspoken idea that if Jesus were really an INFP he'd perhaps would have at some point forsaken humanity altogether or posses a more somber and critical opinion on human nature as a whole.
He seems to have given more of an impression that he was more continuously inclined somehow to possibly see some innate positive quality in the people around him and human beings as whole where as instead it's this unspoken idea that if Jesus were really an INFP he'd perhaps would have at some point forsaken humanity altogether or posses a more somber and critical opinion on human nature as a whole.
Well honestly, the reasons often given for why Jesus is believed more popularity to be an INFJ over INFP is a little silly to me. I'm sure INFP's can be effective in the external world, so it's not that entirely hard to believe that through his 30 odd years of life he somehow acquired and gained various skills which aided him in his goals back then. I don't see Jesus as simply a social leader for some progressive ideal or change, I believe first and foremost he was a kind of spiritual leader or teacher which is not that questionable or hard to imagine an INFP being inclined towards.
But that's why I mentioned that he I think there's this unspoken that it's thought that an INFP at some point would give up or not really bother in a kind of laughable way. But to be fair there's not that many INFP's which are known for leading people on a more independent basis (like, instead of say for a specific job) I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not that impossible but if I were to be honest with myself I guess I find personally putting yourself out there to such an extent that Jesus must have in trying to reach or connect with other people might make me feel icky for some reason.
But that's why I mentioned that he I think there's this unspoken that it's thought that an INFP at some point would give up or not really bother in a kind of laughable way. But to be fair there's not that many INFP's which are known for leading people on a more independent basis (like, instead of say for a specific job) I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's not that impossible but if I were to be honest with myself I guess I find personally putting yourself out there to such an extent that Jesus must have in trying to reach or connect with other people might make me feel icky for some reason.
I find that perspective interesting! Personally, I see Jesus as someone who deeply empathized with others, which resonates with INFP traits. His compassion and care for the marginalized reflect an inner value system that guided His actions. It reminds me of a time when I was struggling as a new mom, feeling overwhelmed with doubts. When I think of Mother’s Day Bible Verses that will make her feel cherished and encouraged encouraging mothers, one that comes to mind is from Proverbs 31:28-29: "Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: 'Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.'"
Don’t care rather he was real or not, or just a charismatic guy …
I have no idea on his type
but got a question
from what we believe we think we know about him…
so why does everyone believes he was intuitive….he was a doing not someone who sat around theorizing…he did what god told him to do, he didn’t come up with it himself, supposedly…..god had it all plan…
i mean I get when us humans think of god, or religion we are thinking in the abstract, which is intuition…. But that doesn’t mean our gods, prophets, or religious/spiritual leaders/figures themselves are intuition..is it bc y’all think of Jesus as supernatural therefore automatically assume he is intuition ….why is everyone so fast/automatically believes he is intution…this why I believe so ppl don’t really get intuition. i Feel many ppl give ppl this function too fast/easily. (Not saying if Jesus is or not)
and also why an introvert, too…he was always around others, out in the world interacting with it, more than introspective…charismatic is usually an extroverted trait…
I have no idea on his type
but got a question
from what we believe we think we know about him…
so why does everyone believes he was intuitive….he was a doing not someone who sat around theorizing…he did what god told him to do, he didn’t come up with it himself, supposedly…..god had it all plan…
i mean I get when us humans think of god, or religion we are thinking in the abstract, which is intuition…. But that doesn’t mean our gods, prophets, or religious/spiritual leaders/figures themselves are intuition..is it bc y’all think of Jesus as supernatural therefore automatically assume he is intuition ….why is everyone so fast/automatically believes he is intution…this why I believe so ppl don’t really get intuition. i Feel many ppl give ppl this function too fast/easily. (Not saying if Jesus is or not)
and also why an introvert, too…he was always around others, out in the world interacting with it, more than introspective…charismatic is usually an extroverted trait…
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