I thought Ne is impulsive related. External intuition...

Something that I've been wanting to ask for a while is whether or not being impulsive is related to type in general.

I've seen the "impulsivity is Se" argument being thrown around repeatedly, but where does it come from? I've heard that impulsivity is not a good indicator of S or N, but is this true? I have also heard of impulsive ENxPs, as well as INxPs, which makes me further question the whole "impulsivity is Se" argument, and makes me also wonder if it is just related to having extroverted perception in general rather than having upper Se.

Those are the Ne dom (and 2nd function) types.

 

I'd say E and P both contribute to impulsivity, so EPs are the most impulsive types, IJs are the most cautious types, and EJs and IPs are in between.

And I've been posting at MBTI forums for over seven years, so I just knooooooow some of you are sitting there going, "EP? IJ? WTF? Those combinations don't correspond to cognitive functions, man. Doesn't reckful know that the MBTI is all about the cognitive functions?"

And to those people reckful says, "Pssh."

 

I disagree with it.

All "cognitive" function(s) are impulsive — in the same ways reflexive responses to subconscious processes (e.g., respiration / consciousness) are.

Just because (Se) requires a differential type of stimuli (e.g., external sensing), does not conclude it is more "impulsive" than another.

The argument can hold true for any function; and even more so for "dom-functions" with a different degree of activity. Cognitive functions are not "behaviors" nor "practices".

 

I mean. What are we talking about? If at all, any relation will be probabilistic; if you want to invalidate a strict theory of "all X are Y" with the one counter-example, you can. Which is why such a theory doesn't exist. So at most, it would mean "Se tends to be impulsive" @flourine . Assuming that was what you meant, I would agree, but (a) this doesn't say anything about other functions (that might or might not be impulsive as well), and (b) no one uses solely Se.

More interesting would be an assertion of "xSxP tend to be more impulsive than other types, and the cause for that is Se". Is that true? No idea. If you care for anecdotal evidence, I'm plenty impulsive when I let myself go a little -- usually, I keep a tight control on myself, but if I give that up, I chase after whatever exciting impulse is the latest. Happens mostly during the hols. If you want to equate that with "switching off Ti, using Se", feel free.

 

Yeah the extroverted type is impulsive the introverted is not...
Can I have my nobel price now?

 

Well, I think all of the functions can be impulsive in different ways. And we have to remember that they work together (si/ne,ni/se). For example, you'd think that because I am a ni dom, I have great self control, right?
..
wrong (sadly)
well, it's good, but fragile

*ahem* for example:
Yes, I will save up all my money for months in a game to use only when I really need it. But.. oh no, there's a special event and without thinking, I impulsively use up all my money on it (I choose to blame inferior Se). I'm not yet fully "adult" and I hope this won't happen with real money!

I also have many other impulsive moments like starting a conversation with a stranger or going into a room full of teachers (when all my other friends didn't want to) and ask if I can have candy from the bowl (they said yes).

Basically, I have good self control and usually think things through, but I have some impulsive moments where I just drop all my cares to the wind and go for it.


So, to make this post seem somewhat useful, perhaps for se/ni and ni/se users, impulsivity is sort of like this (supposing the person is pretty healthy) :

Se/Ni : overall pretty impulsive, but can usually tell when they need to tone it down (more developed Se), or sometimes their Ni pops up and makes them overthink everything

Ni/Se : usually thinks things through very well (or overthinks, in my case!), but sometimes their low Se wakes up from hibernation and decides to do something very potentially stupid without asking Ni first

As for Ne/Si and Si/Ne, I don't really know as much.

 

Probably because they do well in adaptive environments. An Se dom or aux user responds quickly to the feedback that's presented to them and they prefer to make the most of or maximise the current experience; they focus on the present (what's happening right now).

Ne can also be seen as impulsive as they jump from one possibility to the next, never settling on a thing for too long, keeping their options open till another possibility presents itself too tempting to resist.

Se and Ne dom/aux appear impulsive because of the pace, adaptability, opportunistic focus, and extroverted nature of that function.

Someone in the grip of Se and Ne will be impulsive.

As a comparison, Te dom/aux objectives can seem calculated or quickly but mindfully planned because of their desire for things to be objective, optimised, and efficient (some of these will be long term goals / longstanding systems). As for a person in the grip of Te, I'd call their behaviour impulsive as they're acting out of character.

 

I was about to come here and start a new thread about this but I like what was said here. I'm super impulsive to a point where I'm totally illogical for the sake of simply experiencing whatever it is I'm wanting to experience. And when I end up with the shorter end of the stick after I impulsively jumped into something, whether it be physical or emotional, I have a "This is still all a part of experiencing life" type of attitude.

 

I can make impuslive decisions as well. Not big ones of course, even though sometimes I decide something that other people would give more thought, in a split second but only if I have information about it that I collected before that event, even though the information gathering process was in no way meant to further my decision. The information I've gathered on certain topics over the years is just knowledge and since I'm aware of certain aspects of certain things I can make these radical decisions. Maybe it's my Inferior Se? Most of the time I do this in stressful situations.

 

Personally I think P types can usually do more impulsive things which is Ne & Se dom/aux.

I will say Se effected me greatly as a child. Not that it never does now but its channeled and complimented well with my Ti and Fe and my inferior Ni can actually make me paranoid to do things like cliff dive. We have cliffs by water near my home where everyone goes to this pit. Anyways as a teen I would have jumped the cliff. My estp daughter did jump the cliff. My stomach was in knots the entire time some of it is vertigo, age, mortality I think takes on another perspective when you care for someone else. Anyways so that just stuck out to me as something I would have been impulsive about young and now was like oh fuck no.

I would also think enneagram would play a role in this. I see myself more in the 7w5w1 area not full blown 786 area which is alot more adrenaline I think as far as chemically in the body.

But yes I agree I have seen Ne users do some very impulsive things and think it is related to extroverted Ne & Se just in different ways.

But seriously even Js can be impulsive. My enfj boss has impulsive moments I believe in her case its related to Fe & Ni. I actually will inadvertently say something to ground her (make her think) because she has to double think if its in her head and it usually slows down what she may have reacted to kind of impulsive as far as ideas. And actually ideas is where I am very patient and let situations reveal themselves and think the answer can come in waiting as far as projects and brainstorming.

I would say surface wise tho yes Se & Ne both can be very impulsive.

 

I'm fucking impulsive sometimes

 

Do you guys think I have some sort of Se? even though I know I am ISFJ and I use Si. Because whenever I had to defend myself or doing physical activity I can see,feel and touch everything in the moment everything around me which helped me escape danger and helped me a lot in physical activites....

 

Well.

• I'm a INxP type, my Ne is pretty high, and I almost always act on "impulse". Since I "always act on impulse" and don't repress it, I simply call it "spontaneity". I take things as they come, and I have a positive opinion about this way of life.

"Oh I don't know, let's try it now and I'll know right !!! Don't stop me ! If things go for the worst, I'll manage it -somehow-. I'll think about it when it comes ! Yooo /o/ What ? What's a shopping list ? Woh, a fight ?! Let's go there !"


• I noticed that strong (i)xxJ types are more prone to describe "spontaneity" as "impulsivity", because this is not their primary ways of life. They get distraught by "spontaneous/impulsive" attitudes/actions coming from themselves, or from other people, so they use a word with a negative connotation to describe it.

"No, no, I have to think about it before acting.... oooh noooo I bought all these foods I didn't plan to buy and got caught in a fight again. Fuuuuck my impulsivity..."


• Things are reversed when P-types want to control their spontaneity, and when J-types want to develop their spontaneity.


That's how I see it, anyway.

 

I'm fucking impulsive sometimes that my Judging prevents me from doing stupid things in real life. Like, when hmmm. Okay when.. I just wanted to purchase a thing online and my other self tells me.. Hey stop. Buy that tomorrow. If your desire is same as today when tomorrow comes then buy it.. Until tomorrow comes i realize, oh i don't really need it at all.

 

I'm INTJ and the other INTJ's I've met so far are very very structured people. We dislike spontaneous changes and surprises, I think we generally find them threatening. lol

ENFPs, on the other hand, tend to be totally in the moment and just doing whatever... maybe that's too much of a generalization haha

 

I donno guys, I think anyone can be impulsive. The most impulsive person I ever knew was and ISTJ and an ESTP. I can be impulsive when I'm in freak mode but it's rare.

All the ENFP I know are not impulsive at all. The ESFP I know aren't too impulsive either.

My twin brother is isfp and he is a little bit impulsive with buying things. He makes me buy him crap too lol.

 

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