[Allana]

you know she's likely not an INFP type 9 like yourself

Well, yes, she does, but she's 36 years old and she had time to develop her tert function, don't you think?
Half of INFPs are type 4, Chloe is unlikely to be that. I am not sure but I think she is 1w2-6w5-? or smth like that.
Her "rightness" can come from her 1 core strengthening her Fi. I prefer to think she is an ISTJ as it is easier to justify.


And anyway. Where is her Ne?
(How much did you watch, maybe you don't want spoilers. I judge her based on all 3 seasons. You obviously watched or are watching the 2nd, right?

 

[Cherry]

Well, yes, she does, but she's 36 years old and she has time to develop her tert function, don't you think?
Half of INFPs are type 4, Chloe is unlikely to be that. I am not sure but I think she is 1w2-6w5-? or smth like that.
Her "rightness" can come from her 1 core strengthening her Fi. I prefer to think she is an ISTJ as it is easier to justify.


And anyway. Where is her Ne?
(How much did you watch, maybe you don't want spoilers. I judge her based on all 3 seasons. You obviously watched or are watching the 2nd, right?

yes, currently in the second season - tried to watch more tonight but Netflix wasn't loading!
Actually, my own tritype is 146...so anything is possible!!! But who knows really

 

[Allana]

yes, currently in the second season - tried to watch more tonight but Netflix wasn't loading!
Actually, my own tritype is 146...so anything is possible!!! But who knows really

And you're are 4-core, that's very common for an INFP.

Well, I can't discuss Chloe's type now with you as I may give away some spoilers...
May I ask you to update your considerations and thoughts about types of characters in this thread during your watching?

High Ns users enjoy talking about speculations, possibilities, potential, improvements, implications, Chloe shoud be glad at least contemplate the possibility of Lucifer being someone else. She is very down-to-earth woman. And (spolier!) she will believe Lucifer ONLY when she sees evidence... right in front of her face. No other explanations, his claims, weird behaviour won't make her change her mind. Or at least begin to doubt her opinion. I may not change my mind but I like considering ideas, speculate... What if?
So her Ne is either weak or severely suppressed.


I am dying to discuss Dan's and Ella's types with someone but I don't know anyone who watched all three seasons and is interested in typing.
Dan resembles ISFJ but I am really doubtfull about his type. Maybe he is even an ISFP... He is an introvert, that's all I am sure of. For now I consider him Si-dom but with sign of (?).
Ella is ENXP but I can't determine if she's a feeler or a thinker. I don't have enough experience and knowledge to do it.

Amenadiel is probably ISFJ (I think he was in Si-Ti loop in S1)
Linda is ENFJ (maybe 2w1)
Trixie is too small to type. Yes she is most likely ENFP but she can turn out to be ESFP... In the end of S3 I see some Fi in her.
Lucifer's mom is most probably ESTJ or ENTJ.

 

[Allana]

My argument for Lucifer being Seti not SeFi:

If we would go further than the impressions they give to other persons, we will find that the ESTP finds it a lot more difficult to deal with his feelings, quite often finding himself in situations where he does not know how to react to or control his emotions. Sometimes he does not even know why he feels the way he feels or what emotion he is experiencing in a given moment. On the contrary, the ESFP finds it natural to solve this kind of problems, mainly because of his Fi auxiliary and the lack of Fe tertiary, which always pushes the ESTP to meet social standards without ever knowing exactly how to do this very thing.

Lucifer has huge problems with recognizing his own feelings (that's why he needs a therapist). He also has underdeveloped Ti as he often doesn't see (and doesn't care about) outcomes and consequences. I don't see any Fi in him. When does he need to establish the moral values and boundaries?

 

[Allana]

Lucifer aux Ti most frequent question: "Why would he/she do it?/What if x/y is right then...? " He's not trying to use his own moral judgements.
His Ti is not developed so he often comes to wrong conclusions as with his father's supposed manipulation. He's also a very impulsive ans short-sighted (all his first decisions after hearing Linda's advice).

 

[Allana]

I wonder where all Lucifans are? Doesn't anyone else watch this show?

 

[HIX]

 

[Allana]

Does it have anything to do with our topic?

It seems noone besides @Candy watched this show...

It's weird because on Tumblr and on Twitter I constantly meet Lucifans....

 

[Allana]

I've read some opinions that:

Daniel Espinoza is ESFJ 2w1
Linda Martin ENFJ 2w1
Amenadiel is ESTJ (However, I still can't quite see him as extravert)
Ella Lopez is ENTP 7w6 (I agree)
Goddess is INFJ (She seems quite decisive for a Ni-dom, maybe she's Fe-Ni?)
Urile INTJ 5w6
Charlotte is ESTJ

I've seen Lucifer typed as ENTP so many times than I seriously doubt anyone really watched more than a few episodes of the show. His SE is blatantly obvious.
Ella is ENTP, compare her enthusiam about anything unknown to Lucifer's pragmatic and focused on the present attitude.

 

[Charus]

My father really likes to watch this show for some reason.

I can guess is Lucifer is an extremely sterotypical ESFP anti-hero protagonist with heavy Sexual instinct variant. Your typical character that "plays against the rules", "Sex addict" trope stereotype.

I havent watched it myself, but I hear their dialogues from the second room when my father watches it. So I typed him based on the dialogues that I hear from him.

 

[Allana]

Anyway, all I can guess is Lucifer is an extremely sterotypical ESFP anti-hero protagonist

How can you type him at all if you never even watched it?

And he is not a bad-boy.

 

[Charus]

How can you type him at all if you never even watched it?

And he is not a bad-boy.

...

I edited my post and said this:

Yes, I havent watched it, but I hear their dialogues from the second room, so I typed him based on the dialogues that I hear from them.

And yeah, I apologise for unfair judgment of the show.

 

[Allana]

Lucifer is SeTi because he a) directly observes the reality b)quickly analyzes it and uses it to his advantage, he creates his own logical framjework about human behavior and exploits it (bribes, addictions), he finds loopholes and thinks fast.

He is out of touch with his feelings what is typical for tert-Fe.

I find deciphering his tritype problematic as the character changed between S1 and S2-3.
The S1 is 7w8>3w4>8w7 whereas in S2-S3 he shifts closer to 7w8-4w3-8w7

 

[Sidhe Draoi]

What I'd really like to know is.. what is Lucifer's type based on the comic [which is what the show is based on].
I'd say.. in the comic, he's an ExTJ. =]
He appears intuitive but he also cares a great deal about business. He's DEFINITELY a logical leader.
Its hard to say whether he's an introvert or extrovert but I'm going with extrovert just because he seems to have more Te.

I haven't watched much of the show, but I agree he seems like a sensor.

 

[Allana]

Comics and show's Lucifer are COMPLETELY different.
Comics is more ESJ

 

[Allana]

Who read the Lucifer comics? i'm not sure but he seems even more detached and.. cold there. I'd type him ESTJ.

 

[Cherry]

I'd say Luci is an ESTP

 

[Cherry]

And he is not a bad-boy.

Weeeeeeeell, technically, yes - he is

 

[Cherry]

Daniel: ISFJ
Amenadiel: ISFJ
Linda: ENFX
Ella: ENFP
Chloe: INFP or ISXJ

 

[Allana]

Daniel: ISFJ
Amenadiel: ISFJ
Linda: ENFX
Ella: ENFP
Chloe: INFP or ISXJ

????
How much did you watch?(to avoid spoliers) BTW, 4th season is quite good, judging by reviews.

I typed previously Amenadiel as ISFJ but Funky told me he has this no-nonsense attitude. "Just do it". And I started to doubt.

If Amenadiel really did have Fe or was any kind of feeler, he would have considered the humans in his plan, not just gone off looking at them as them as mere pawns or collateral in his quest to take back Lucifer to hell. That is a blunt and direct Te user for you. The fact that he gets so lost in controlling his human pawns, while losing sight of his inferior Fi values is what causes him to lose his wings, his divinity.

Linda I think is a ENFJ 2w1-core.
She really loves helping other people, caring about them and it makes her feel valuable and confident. And she is generally very dutiful and follows ethical rules. She protects her patients data.

Chloe INFP? I wish I were so diligent and good with schemes and schedules as her.
I am sure she's a typical ISTJ. I don't see any Ne in her. She is all about facts and proofs.
ISTJ 1w9 Maybe 1w9-2w1-6w5.

Lucifer is ESTP, yes. FINALLY someone didn't type him as ENTP. Halleluiah!!!
A good example of 7w8 ESTP.

Don't know about Daniel.

Funky wrote:

Oh and sweet Dan, he is an ExFJ. Right from the first day of setting Chloe at ease to his being the general nice guy around the station. The thing that Lucifer struggles with understanding …why “boring Dan” is likeable. It is because of his Fe. His first instinct is to comfort people, and make sure they know he is there for them. Under stress like with the dagger, he takes decisions which make sense to him in the moment. I am tempted to say that he has low Se which is why Palmetto happens, but over all so far I haven’t gotten much of a grasp of his Ni usage.

Weeeeeeeell, technically, yes - he is

He is chaotic neutral I think. But not good or evil.



Who is Mom/Charlotte? I've seen her typed as INFJ and INTJ.